AZ AZ - Tucson, WhtMale Pre-30, UP108585, Found In Wash, Jack Skellington Tattoo, Red/Auburn Hair, Sep'23

[Hochman]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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"Unidentified male found in a wash and desert area northwest of West Ironwood Hill Drive/North Silverbell Road by Tucson Police Department Homeless Outreach Team."

Sex - Male
Race - White
Age Range - Pre-30
Location - Arizona, Tuscon, Desert area northwest of West Ironwood Hill Drive/North Silverbell Road
DBF - September 13, 2023
Condition - Decomposition

Height - 5' 10"(70 inches) , Measured
Weight - 121 lbs, Measured

Hair Color - Red/Auburn
Eye Color - Unknown

Tattoos
- "Jack Skellington face located on left bicep"

Spoiler: Jack Skellington Tattoo

- "Filled in star with circle around it located on left knee"

Spoiler: Star Circle Tattoo

- "Possible eye or eye of Horus located on right superior chest"

Clothing
- Green Vest
- Blue vest
- Yellow belt
- 2 Black socks
- 3 Black bracelets

Accessories
- Red Flashlight
- 3 Black bracelets
- 1 Brown metal necklace

 

[madamx]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

"Unidentified male found in a wash and desert area northwest of West Ironwood Hill Drive/North Silverbell Road by Tucson Police Department Homeless Outreach Team."

Sex - Male
Race - White
Age Range - Pre-30
Location - Arizona, Tuscon, Desert area northwest of West Ironwood Hill Drive/North Silverbell Road
DBF - September 13, 2023
Condition - Decomposition

Height - 5' 10"(70 inches) , Measured
Weight - 121 lbs, Measured

Hair Color - Red/Auburn
Eye Color - Unknown

Tattoos
- "Jack Skellington face located on left bicep"

Spoiler: Jack Skellington Tattoo

View attachment 448116

- "Filled in star with circle around it located on left knee"

Spoiler: Star Circle Tattoo

View attachment 448117

- "Possible eye or eye of Horus located on right superior chest"

Clothing
- Green Vest
- Blue vest
- Yellow belt
- 2 Black socks
- 3 Black bracelets

Accessories
- Red Flashlight
- 3 Black bracelets
- 1 Brown metal necklace
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I just realized he had no pants on. Or at least they are not mentioned.

I can tell one of the black rubber bracelets has the pink cancer ribbons… the other one has what looks like pink writing but can’t tell what it says.
It would be great if there was another angle of the bracelets which might be a clue to something.

 

[madamx]

I posted the 2 bracelets that you can sort if see.. I converted them to b/w to maybe be able to see them better.

 

[borndem]

Several clues shown in above posts -- surely someone who knows this person will get in touch with LE.

Thanks for the starting post, Hochman!

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Sounds like he's in his 20's. So young, poor guy. I hope he is identified soon.

 

[madamx]

I found the bracelet w the words ( that you can sort of read) online.. turns out it’s a bands name.

Bring Me the Horizon… an Alternative Death Rock band is what I found.

I found kids selling the bracelets in Pinterest for $10

Link to the band info

Bring Me the Horizon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[madamx]

Sounds like he's in his 20's. So young, poor guy. I hope he is identified soon.

Yes does sound like some kid in his 20s into Goth Emo Music. Someone prob knows who he is.

I also noticed he was found by Tucson police homeless outreach program.
I wonder if this is a location where many homeless are or if they were looking for someone else and found this kid?

https://bomagt.org/images/meeting/102020/Homeless_2020/tpd_homeless_outreach_team_overview_powerpoint.pdf

 

[Hochman]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Added January 3, 2024

 

[Oiseaux]

I also noticed he was found by Tucson police homeless outreach program.
I wonder if this is a location where many homeless are or if they were looking for someone else and found this kid?

It’s on the outskirts of the city, between a mixed-use, lower socioeconomic area to the east and a primarily residential, more rural, higher socioeconomic area to the west. There isn’t a visible large encampment there, but there are some individual ones in the vicinity from time to time. Tucson (like many cities) has recently experienced an increase in unhoused people, many of whom seek refuge in washes and patches of wilderness in the city.

I hope that helps!

 

[lightofmine99]

NamUs has been updated as of today, not sure with what. Zero comparisons.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[cyberpanda]

I wonder if he frequented a lot of metal/punk shows. Maybe they could post flyers of his composition in local venues?

 

[MAHBOOBOO]

Well he's not a very good suggestion, mostly due to the difference of the tattoo on the left forearm. Eli Bugler's tattoo is listed as an illegible name on the left forearm, whereas the MP has a jack skelly tattoo on his left bicep. But otherwise there are similarities; he's the right age to like that emo screamo music (that's what I called it when my lil bros listened to it), hair is right, teeth might be right (looks like he's showing off a chipped l/f tooth in this pic), height is the same, disappeared from AZ to go on a spiritual quest.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[cyberpanda]

I think Eli Bugler could be a possibility. Looks like he’s struggled with homelessness and mental health in the past. He was arrested in 2020 for fighting paramedics and police.

 

[cyberpanda]

I've been thinking more about this case and his outfit specifically. The vests and bracelets were very popular in scene/emo fashion in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Bring Me the Horizon and Blood on the Dance floor (the other band on the bracelets he was wearing) are very popular in this genre, especially in the 2000s/2010s. I've found a few different "emo night" themed events at some bars in Tucson that occurred within a month of our doe being found. Maybe the outfit is a red herring, and it was more of a costume?

There was an Emo Night August 12th at Thunder Canyon Brewery.
An Emo Prom at Hotel Congress in Tucson on August 17th.
And an Emo Night August 25th at Music Box.

 

[Oiseaux]

Well he's not a very good suggestion, mostly due to the difference of the tattoo on the left forearm. Eli Bugler's tattoo is listed as an illegible name on the left forearm, whereas the MP has a jack skelly tattoo on his left bicep. But otherwise there are similarities; he's the right age to like that emo screamo music (that's what I called it when my lil bros listened to it), hair is right, teeth might be right (looks like he's showing off a chipped l/f tooth in this pic), height is the same, disappeared from AZ to go on a spiritual quest.

I think he could be a good match, too! He’s #66 of 95 in this article and there’s definitely a resemblance to the sketch.

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[MAHBOOBOO]

NAMUS said the UP's jack skelly tattoo is on his left bicep. Does this look like his bicep or his forearm to y'all?

 

[cyberpanda]

NAMUS said the UP's jack skelly tattoo is on his left bicep. Does this look like his bicep or his forearm to y'all?

View attachment 511656

The veins on the bottom left look like they would be on his wrist. I agree, looks more like a forearm.

 

[cyberpanda]

I've been thinking more about this case and his outfit specifically. The vests and bracelets were very popular in scene/emo fashion in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Bring Me the Horizon and Blood on the Dance floor (the other band on the bracelets he was wearing) are very popular in this genre, especially in the 2000s/2010s. I've found a few different "emo night" themed events at some bars in Tucson that occurred within a month of our doe being found. Maybe the outfit is a red herring, and it was more of a costume?

There was an Emo Night August 12th at Thunder Canyon Brewery.
An Emo Prom at Hotel Congress in Tucson on August 17th.
And an Emo Night August 25th at Music Box.

Flashlights are common things people bring along to parties/raves, which could also explain why he has one with him.

 

[cyberpanda]

I won’t link anything since it’s not allowed, but I found Eli’s Facebook page and then went to a woman’s account that he was tagged in several photos with. She posted on April 29 2021 that Eli had “gone missing again” and was last seen March 12 in Sedona. Someone in the comments said he was spotted in Tucson.
EDIT: the woman he was tagged with is his mother.

 

[mkl9514]

The veins on the bottom left look like they would be on his wrist. I agree, looks more like a forearm.

It looks like a bicep to me, based on how it bulges. But he was pretty thin, so I can see how they may look similar.