Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix #2

[ThinkTank]

This whole bankruptcy has me thoroughly confused. If baez can't prove that she owes him the 500K (which we all know she doesn't owe him), then is she still eligible for Chapter 7?
Also, when her debts are added up, she can only claim what she actually owes people right? Because at this point, we have no idea how much she could potentially owe creditors like Kronk, Zenaida and Tim Miller. How can the bankruptcy happen when they don't even have a definitive amount that she owes ALL of her creditors?
Is that the ruling that we are waiting for? To determine if the civil suits have to happen before they allow her to dismiss her debts?
Like I said ... thoroughly confused.

The next bankruptcy Hearing is on May 30, 2013.
The judge should rule on Zenaida and Kronk's civil cases to move forward in either state court/Orlando [as they want], or in federal court/Tampa [as Casey Anthony wants], or to be dismissed completely.

The judge indicated in the April 9, 2013 Hearing that Zenaida and Kronk civil suits must be completed before the judge can determine if they are actual creditors in Casey Anthony's bankruptcy case. The details of how the civil cases will continue has not been ruled on yet.

Zenaida and Kronk want the civil cases held in Orlando where the cases have already been initiated.

Casey Anthony's attorneys want the civil cases thrown out completely by the bankruptcy judge, or held in the bankruptcy court because they say FCA cannot get a fair trial in Orlando or the whole Ninth Circuit because of Judge Perry's comments on the TODAY SHOW.

Tim Miller/Texas EquuSearch has a separate action going on in the bankruptcy court, asking the bankruptcy judge to NOT allow Casey Anthony to discharge his civil case debt.


http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...ticles/cfn/2013/4/9/casey_anthony_attorn.html

Casey Anthony will not have to be questioned, judge says
By Amanda Evans, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, April 10, 2013

excerpt:

However, the judge did say that he wants those civil trials to proceed. The judge said he can't consider Gonzalez or Kronk as creditors unless state court rules that their reputations were ruined by Anthony.
All of the civil suits against Anthony were put on hold when she filed for bankruptcy.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...y-hearing-life-story-20130409,0,2897852.story

Casey Anthony: Judge will rule on plan to sell her story to pay creditors

By Amy Pavuk, Orlando Sentinel
8:55 a.m. EDT, April 10, 2013

excerpt:
Ultimately, May set the issue on the back-burner, and told the attorneys their defamation cases needed to be resolved in state or even federal court before proceeding in bankruptcy.

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http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...icles/cfn/2013/4/11/casey_anthony_civil_.html

Casey Anthony civil trial must go on before bankruptcy case
By Amanda Evans, Reporter
Last Updated: Thursday, April 11, 2013

excerpts:
Casey Anthony will have to head back to civil court after a bankruptcy judge ruled Tuesday that a jury needs to decide if she ruined the reputations of Zenaida Gonzalez and meter reader Roy Kronk.

Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said they are now working to get a new trial date set.

Casey Anthony's civil trial was put on hold when she filed for bankruptcy in January. But at a hearing Tuesday, a bankruptcy judge said the case needs to get figured out in civil court first, to see if there even is a case for bankruptcy.

Gonzalez's attorneys said their goal is to have a trial date set by October.

 

[ZsaZsa]

1 David Schrader - bankruptcy
2 Charles Greene
3 Andrew Chmelir
4 Debra Ferwerda
5 Cheney Mason
6 Lizbeth Fryer
7 Ann Finnel
8 Dorothy Sims
9 Jose Baez
10 Andrea Lyon
11 Linda Kenney Baden
12 Todd Macaluso
13 Jose Garcia
14 William Slabaugh
15 Michelle Medina
16 Jonathan Kasen
17 Tomasita D Crowell
18 Terry Lenamon

Macaluso even donated $70K in order to join her team IIRC...

 

[ThinkTank]

There was also a John Walsh, a south Florida Attorney, he was around from July/ August to October 2008.

He was involved in the appeal to lower her Bond.
She writes about him and his wife in some of her jail letters.

A, John DeGirolamo, a civil attorney

On her BK filing she lists other attorneys as well...(apart from the ones associated with her family)

http://thecreditreportwithbilllewis...y-anthony-middle-district-bankruptcy-0126.pdf

Burr & Foreman LLP, Orlando..Attorney Fees [Kronk's attorneys]
DePaul Univ, College of Law..Consulting Fees [Andrea Lyon]
Jimmy Sherris ESQ, Orlando..Attorney Fees and Costs [David Badali attorney]
Wites & Kapetan PA, Lighthouse Point FL...Attorney Fees and Costs [Tim Miller former attorneys]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

page 44 - "I'm extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case. And Gabe speaks nothing but the truth. He's my adopted brother. Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case, that were nothing short of phenominal."

Michael and Michelle Walsh

Jose Luis Garcia

Gabriel E. Adam

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92918&page=3
momtective Dec 24, 2009
On 12.10.08 KC is visited by Attny Gabriel Adam from 9:44 in the evening until 4:39am the following day. That's an over-nighter of almost 7 hours! What is up with these over night visits?! Does it seem strange to anyone else that on the 12.11.08 KC was visited for appx. 11 hours of the 24 hours day. She was visited by Gabriel Adam, followed by Baez, then Garcia, then Baez again, then Garcia again. Keep in mind 12.11 is when Caylee's remains were found. I really get the feeling they knew exactly what was about to take place otherwise why would Gabriel have stayed the night of 12.10 into the early morning of 12.11 and why would her attorney's have almost 11 hours with her that day? The remains were discovered around 9:30am on the 11th. Gabriel and Garcia were with her most of that time, Baez was only there a total of 2 1/2 hours.

Here’s another very long visit 11.9.08 Jose Garcia visits from 7:00pm until 11.10.08 2:45am… 7 hrs. 45 min. visit.

 

[ThinkTank]

1 David Schrader - bankruptcy
2 Charles M. Greene [with John G. DeGirolamo and Richard Solomon, and Richard Reinhart in recent photo of smiling Casey with attorneys]
3 Andrew J. Chmelir - [Jacobson, McClean, Chmelir & Ferwerda, P.A. - works with Greene]
4 Debra Ferwerda
5 Cheney Mason
6 Lizbeth Fryer
7 Ann Finnel
8 Dorothy Sims
9 Jose Baez
10 Andrea Lyon [DePaul Univ. College of Law]
11 Linda Kenney Baden
12 Todd Macaluso
13 Jose Luis Garcia [FCA's crush]
14 William Slabaugh
15 Michelle Medina
16 Jonathan B. Kasen
17 Tomasita D Crowell
18 Terry Lenamon
19 Michael & Michelle Walsh [wrote appeals to lower FCA Bond - helped jailmate Robyn Adams]
20 Gabriel E. Adam - "Gabe" [long jail visits]
21 John G. DeGirolamo [with Charles M. Greene]
22 Juan Pablo Manterola [Baez Law Firm Case Manager - PR man]
23 Timothy Chinaris - Faulkner University in Alabama - Baez' ethics attorney

 

[Hez]

There was also a John Walsh, a south Florida Attorney, he was around from July/ August to October 2008.

He was involved in the appeal to lower her Bond.
She writes about him and his wife in some of her jail letters.

A, John DeGirolamo, a civil attorney

On her BK filing she lists other attorneys as well...(apart from the ones associated with her family)

http://thecreditreportwithbilllewis...y-anthony-middle-district-bankruptcy-0126.pdf

Burr & Foreman LLP, Orlando..Attorney Fees
DePaul Univ, College of Law..Consulting Fees
Jimmy Sherris ESQ, Orlando..Attorney Fees and Costs
Wites & Kapetan PA, Lighthouse Point FL...Attorney Fees and Costs

Slightly o/t, but I'm amazed at all the resources that were used to help a baby killer go free.

 

[?noanswer]

Slightly o/t, but I'm amazed at all the resources that were used to help a baby killer go free.

Wonder if they all thought there would be a book deal in the future or were they all sold a "used car" by the man referred to by a Judge as a Used car Salesman.

JMO

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

page 44 - "I'm extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case. And Gabe speaks nothing but the truth. He's my adopted brother. Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case, that were nothing short of phenominal."

Michael and Michelle Walsh

Jose Luis Garcia

Gabriel E. Adam

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92918&page=3
momtective Dec 24, 2009
On 12.10.08 KC is visited by Attny Gabriel Adam from 9:44 in the evening until 4:39am the following day. That's an over-nighter of almost 7 hours! What is up with these over night visits?! Does it seem strange to anyone else that on the 12.11.08 KC was visited for appx. 11 hours of the 24 hours day. She was visited by Gabriel Adam, followed by Baez, then Garcia, then Baez again, then Garcia again. Keep in mind 12.11 is when Caylee's remains were found. I really get the feeling they knew exactly what was about to take place otherwise why would Gabriel have stayed the night of 12.10 into the early morning of 12.11 and why would her attorney's have almost 11 hours with her that day? The remains were discovered around 9:30am on the 11th. Gabriel and Garcia were with her most of that time, Baez was only there a total of 2 1/2 hours.

Here’s another very long visit 11.9.08 Jose Garcia visits from 7:00pm until 11.10.08 2:45am… 7 hrs. 45 min. visit.

:drumroll: Thanks TinkTank!!!!:rockon:

 

[Pattymarie]

1 David Schrader - bankruptcy
2 Charles M. Greene [with John G. DeGirolamo and Richard Solomon, and Richard Reinhart in recent photo of smiling Casey with attorneys]
3 Andrew J. Chmelir - [Jacobson, McClean, Chmelir & Ferwerda, P.A. - works with Greene]
4 Debra Ferwerda
5 Cheney Mason
6 Lizbeth Fryer
7 Ann Finnel
8 Dorothy Sims
9 Jose Baez
10 Andrea Lyon [DePaul Univ. College of Law]
11 Linda Kenney Baden
12 Todd Macaluso
13 Jose Luis Garcia [FCA's crush]
14 William Slabaugh
15 Michelle Medina
16 Jonathan B. Kasen
17 Tomasita D Crowell
18 Terry Lenamon
19 Michael & Michelle Walsh [wrote appeals to lower FCA Bond - helped jailmate Robyn Adams]
20 Gabriel E. Adam - "Gabe" [long jail visits]
21 John G. DeGirolamo [with Charles M. Greene]
22 Juan Pablo Manterola [Baez Law Firm Case Manager - PR man]
23 Timothy Chinaris - Faulkner University in Alabama - Baez' ethics attorney

This is a shocking list of supposed trusted officers of the U.S. court and educated professionals willing to sign on to help this person. At what price do you suppose anyone of this list might tell the public why?

 

[zippitydoda]

This is a shocking list of supposed trusted officers of the U.S. court and educated professionals willing to sign on to help this person. At what price do you suppose anyone of this list might tell the public why?

I'll guess - ego, and the ability to say they were involved with the case.

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by Pattymarie
This is a shocking list of supposed trusted officers of the U.S. court and educated professionals willing to sign on to help this person. At what price do you suppose anyone of this list might tell the public why?

I'll guess - ego, and the ability to say they were involved with the case.

And the all-time biggest motivator .... M-O-N-E-Y!!
the hope of a huge payday down the road, after she does her big-money interview and book deal and media tour
the hope of fame and fortune after being associated with this person
talking head gig on HLN, FOX, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS ....
feather in the cap for ANTI death penalty crusaders
writing their own books

WHO has that many attorneys in a LIFETIME????
OJ did not even have that many attorneys
Jodi Arias does not have that many attorneys

 

[ThinkTank]

The best part of her attorney's latest whine fest is that they are running out of attorneys who are willing to spend their own money and time to represent her, and they said “some members” have dropped out.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIWWZ2Q25EUEJ4QkU/edit?pli=1

RESPONSE TO ZENAIDA RELIEF FROM STAY

Page 8
c. Ms Anthony is Out of Resources to Continue to Fight Frivolous Lawsuits
As the result of the donated time of a team of attorneys and other professionals, Ms. Anthony has been able to fend off the claims of Gonzalez and others seeking to jump on the publicity bandwagon….

Page 9
… Ms. Anthony has been able to continue the battle this long only because of the tireless efforts of a legal team which has contributed its own money and time to defend her. However, the resources of the legal team have also been taxed to their limit and some of the members are otherwise no longer able to continue the fight. Ms. Anthony does not have the money or the mental or physical stamina to continue to fend off the frivolous claims of Gonzalez and others in State court…

 

[ThinkTank]

Tim Miller/Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery has a new attorney who filed Notice of Appearance today - Peter D. Russin of Meland Russin & Budwick, P.A. in Miami, FL.

The attorney has also filed a Summons which Casey Anthony has 30 days [June 3, 2013] to file a Motion or Answer to this Complaint.

The attorney has filed a Complaint Objecting to Dischargeability of Debt

There will be a HEARING on July 2, 2013 at 10:30am.

Here are the documents on google docs:

05/03/2013
Notice of Appearance and Request for Notice Filed by Peter D. Russin on behalf of Creditor Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery
(Entered: 05/03/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIYUdtcW5EdTlzYWs/edit?usp=sharing

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05/03/2013
Complaint by Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery against Casey Marie Anthony
8:13-ap-00375-KRM
Nature of Suit: [62 (Dischargeability - 523(a)(2), false pretenses, false representation, actual fraud)],
[68 (Dischargeability - 523(a)(6), willful and malicious injury)]
(Entered: 05/03/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIdFYzc3h6b1V6eVk/edit?usp=sharing

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05/03/2013
Summons Issued on Casey Marie Anthony .
Answer Due 06/3/2013
(Entered: 05/03/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIVVhUMkw2U2UzTUE/edit?usp=sharing

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5/9/2013
Certificate of Service [Summons]
Filed by Peter D. Russin on behalf of Plaintiff Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery
(Entered: 05/09/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIZTBmc3dfbHNUNWM/edit?usp=sharing

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5/10/2013
Statement of Corporate Ownership
Filed by Peter D. Russin on behalf of Plaintiff Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery
(Entered: 05/10/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIaTR1a1lZcVlMaHM/edit?usp=sharing

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5/14/2013
Order Scheduling Pretrial Conference.
Pre-Trial Conference set for 7/2/2013 at 10:30 AM at Tampa, FL - Courtroom 9B, Sam M. Gibbons United States Courthouse, 801 N. Florida Avenue.
(Entered: 05/14/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIR1BNWFBKOTVXak0/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Intermezzo]

The best part of her attorney's latest whine fest is that they are running out of attorneys who are willing to spend their own money and time to represent her, and they said “some members” have dropped out.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIWWZ2Q25EUEJ4QkU/edit?pli=1

RESPONSE TO ZENAIDA RELIEF FROM STAY

Page 8
c. Ms Anthony is Out of Resources to Continue to Fight Frivolous Lawsuits
As the result of the donated time of a team of attorneys and other professionals, Ms. Anthony has been able to fend off the claims of Gonzalez and others seeking to jump on the publicity bandwagon….

Page 9
… Ms. Anthony has been able to continue the battle this long only because of the tireless efforts of a legal team which has contributed its own money and time to defend her. However, the resources of the legal team have also been taxed to their limit and some of the members are otherwise no longer able to continue the fight. Ms. Anthony does not have the money or the mental or physical stamina to continue to fend off the frivolous claims of Gonzalez and others in State court…

First they CHOOSE to take her case on PRO BONO then they complain about MONEY, about not being PAID and have to use their own financial resources...

 

[skbsoccermom]

First they CHOOSE to take her case on PRO BONO then they complain about MONEY, about not being PAID and have to use their own financial resources...

My thoughts exactly. Perhaps they should have thought about this before they signed on. I hope Tim Miller, Kronk and Zenaida continue to push forward and keep her and her enablers tied up in court.

They didn't seem too tired and taxed in that photo that was released (sold) a few months ago in which they are all smiling in front of the 'Team Casey' sign.

 

[Trvl4Lyfe]

Just your typical greedy lawyers, who thought things would pay off for representing her.

 

[zippitydoda]

The best part of her attorney's latest whine fest is that they are running out of attorneys who are willing to spend their own money and time to represent her, and they said “some members” have dropped out.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIWWZ2Q25EUEJ4QkU/edit?pli=1

RESPONSE TO ZENAIDA RELIEF FROM STAY

Page 8
c. Ms Anthony is Out of Resources to Continue to Fight Frivolous Lawsuits
As the result of the donated time of a team of attorneys and other professionals, Ms. Anthony has been able to fend off the claims of Gonzalez and others seeking to jump on the publicity bandwagon….

Page 9
… Ms. Anthony has been able to continue the battle this long only because of the tireless efforts of a legal team which has contributed its own money and time to defend her. However, the resources of the legal team have also been taxed to their limit and some of the members are otherwise no longer able to continue the fight. Ms. Anthony does not have the money or the mental or physical stamina to continue to fend off the frivolous claims of Gonzalez and others in State court…

Think Tank - you post the best stuff! thank you for keeping us updated on these matters.

This is very interesting, and I wonder what the future brings if "Team OCA" is dismantling?

 

[logicalgirl]

Wonder if they all thought there would be a book deal in the future or were they all sold a "used car" by the man referred to by a Judge as a Used car Salesman.

JMO

Just IMO - but not money at all - but something better. Publicity. High profile cases have media exposure and anyone working on those cases get brand or advertising power that is better than what you could buy.

People see who intensely they defend their client - and think - wow - if they will defend someone like her so well, imagine what they can do for my case. Gotta be good guys because they worked pro-bono for her. They'd give me an even better defense if I could pay them.

And so it goes. You just can't buy that kind of massive publicity. For all his wailing - that's exactly why Baez stuck it out. He didn't get the star power he was hoping for but everybody "knows his name". :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

In business, the best customer is someone who is referred, or "knows you" from what you have accomplished in the past.

 

[ThinkTank]

The bankruptcy judge made no ruling in the Hearing on May 8, 2013, and said they need to come back for a Hearing on May 30, 2013 at 3:00, for these Motions filed by Zenaida and Kronk.

The judge should rule on whether or not Zenaida and Kronk can continue their civil cases in State court/Orlando, or if they will have to continue them in Federal court/bankruptcy court/Tampa.

HEARING MAY 8, 2013 - continued to MAY 30, 2013

HEARING
MAY 30, 2013 3:00pm

- Motion to Extend Time to file Complaint Objecting to Discharge of the Debtor or to Challenge Dischargeability of Certain Debts
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
and Debtor's Response [Casey Anthony Response].

- Motion to Extend Time to object to discharge and/or dischargeability of debt
Filed by Michael Nardella on behalf of Creditor Roy Kronk
and Debtor's Response.

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- Objection to Debtor's Claim of Exemptions
filed by Roy Kronk

- Amended Objection to Debtor's Claim of Exemptions
filed by Zenaida Gonzalez

[no Response filed by Debtor [Casey Anthony] by April 24,25, 2013
re: Exemptions]

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- Motion for Relief from Stay
filed by Roy Kronk
and Debtor's Response [Casey Anthony complaints about Judge Perry on NBC TODAY SHOW]

- Motion for Relief from Stay
filed by Zenaida Gonzalez
Debtor's Response [Casey Anthony complaints about Judge Perry on NBC TODAY SHOW]

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[ThinkTank]

My thoughts exactly. Perhaps they should have thought about this before they signed on. I hope Tim Miller, Kronk and Zenaida continue to push forward and keep her and her enablers tied up in court.

They didn't seem too tired and taxed in that photo that was released (sold) a few months ago in which they are all smiling in front of the 'Team Casey' sign.

Here is her happy crew photos! January 26, 2013

tall guy black shirt Charles M. Greene
second from left is Richard Reinhart
White shirt is Richard Solomon
Smitten looking guy is John G. DeGirolamo


http://www.cmgpa.com/content/attorneys

 

[?noanswer]

Here is her happy crew photos! January 26, 2013

tall guy black shirt Charles M. Greene
second from left is Richard Reinhart
White shirt is Richard Solomon
Smitten looking guy is John G. DeGirolamo


http://www.cmgpa.com/content/attorneys

Looks like CA has tan lines - end of January. Wonder if it was sun tan or tanning booth tan Check out the "diamonds" around her neck, the big ring on her middle right finger and what looks like a "diamond" ring on her left hand.


JMO