Book released by Defense Atty Nov 2015 #1

[Hope4More]

About the nude photos, he says poor JA in her braids looked "like a lifeless blow up doll" while TA looked like he was "having the time of his life." Did he see the same pictures we did? Oh and TA has a butt fetish to take photos of JA's anus (he says these are not pictures of her butt, they are pictures of her anus and then uses the word anus about a million times), photos that looked more like a proctology exam.

Sorry to ruin anyone's breakfast.

We had a few more "by in larges" thrown in for good measure, and he said he picked JW as co-counsel off some county approved list because he knew she would not "go rouge". Yes, he said rouge, not rogue.

Because I'm feeling particularly snarky I went to my Goodreads account to enter this book. Except even searching by ISBN number it isn't there. LOL. So much for this being a huge #1 hit.

Nurmi either:

1. Believes all the asinine, distorted, offensive and downright ignorant things he writes about, OR

2. Doesn't really believe the tripe he's writing but is writing it anyway because people who don't like him or who don't agree with him must be made to pay so so he can feel better about himself, OR

3. He believes what he's saying AND is a vindicative, ethically challenged third class attorney.

 

[RickshawFan]

Nurmi has obviously gotten into Jenny's stash. He cannot believe Juan spent so much time interviewing ALV pre-trial, especially since they were in a cramped room in JW's office (you can't make this up, as if that is Juan's fault). According to KN, "LaViolette's conclusions were not subject to any legitimate challenge and Mr. Martinez seemed to be figuring this out as he progressed during the interview." He seems to me to be pissed off that JM didn't take everything she said as gospel.

And then there is this quote: "What makes you, the trial watcher, so positive that Ms. LaViolette is wrong? What makes you, the trial watcher think that you know more about domestic violence than Ms. LaViolette?" I'm sort of waiting for him to trash the jury next.

Yow, KN is one of ALV's seven dwarfs?

On this topic, do you think ALV was blind-sided going into trial thinking that everyone believed whatever she said? That JM gave her that impression when he interviewed her in the Wilmotts' "cramped room"?

KN has minimal skill at evaluating "experts". This goes along with his poor sentence structures, his convoluted arguments, and his atrocious general knowledge (e.g. "New Zealand is in Europe"). The latter characteristics reflect the absence of critical thinking skills, which is a serious handicap when you're evaluating someone's academic (or other) positions. He has been very poorly educated and probably spent his time at university taking classes to "get 'er done" rather than investing in actually learning something. No doubt he signed up for courses where the professor wouldn't get on his case for slacking. Don't get me started on how low the standards are at many American universities.

Oh, and some momentary snark, Isn't it just like Wilmott to have a cramped office? Corner cutting, as always.... Plus, every time I saw her in those tight pencil skirts, the panty-hose and the pinchy pumps, she just looked so squeezed into her life.

 

[RickshawFan]

She told about every single sex act they supposedly had in painstaking detail. She made him sound like a monster. Remember the baptism? Sickening. LIES, LIES, LIES. And that slime Nurmi dragging it out of her faked shamed look on the stand. She sure changed when Juans turn came. And in my opinion that is what sunk her. The Jury saw this sociopath for what she was. When the jurors came out and talked on some of the evening programs they said as much.

I think she told about way more sex acts than there ever were. With all TA's texting going on, where was the time?

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

Nurmi either:

1. Believes all the asinine, distorted, offensive and downright ignorant things he writes about, OR

2. Doesn't really believe the tripe he's writing but is writing it anyway because people who don't like him or who don't agree with him must be made to pay so so he can feel better about himself, OR

3. He believes what he's saying AND is a vindicative, ethically challenged third class attorney.

H4M, I'll take #3 for $100,000.

I think he is trying to rationalize everything he did because I think JM's book is going to expose him for, as you so eloquently put it, the ethically challenged third class attorney he really is.

 

[Steve44]

page 129: "in my opinion, these men [Detectives Flores and Melendez] simply wanted to serve whatever agenda Juan Martinez had at that moment."

And Doctor Horn thought people should believe him just because he was handsome. (pg. 130)

Jealous much?

Well, at least that's a better excuse than you have, Nurmi.

 

[Hope4More]

Pink- thank you so much for taking the time to post about his book! Your selections are perfect....they say everything about the man and his views I wanted to know.

1. Were the DT's attacks on JM personal or strategic? (personal, even when they were possibly strategic as well) .

2. Why does Nurmi hate the killer? (because he holds her responsible for "the trial watchers" despising him).

3. Does Nurmi feel any regret about being forced by his client to destroy Travis' reputation and to cause T's family and friends so much pain? (heck no. He's continuing those attacks in his book).

4. Did Nurmi find it degrading to have to spend so much time in court talking about specific sexual acts? (No).

5. What if anything does Nurmi believe about the killer's story? (Apparently the very heart of it- that Travis was to blame for his own death, and that the killer was the victim, not Travis).

6. Does Nurmi have the intellectual honesty- or even capacity- for self reflection?(no) Or like his client, does he twist everyone else's words and actions so as to confirm his own superiority? (the latter).

Thanks again, Pink!!!! (and please let me know if you think any of those conclusions are wrong).

 

[RickshawFan]

At least he acknowledges the widespread public sentiment towards ALV.

How about this:

Because she came across as a bottom-of-the-barrel representative of her field, biased and willing to use her credentials in support of a despicable act by one human being against another for no other reason than the perpetrator was female and the victim male.

I disagree with one part: she didn't have any credentials. There was nothing on that vita except padding. There was no rigor in her professional life, and she tried to conceal that fact. Evidently didn't qualify for Ph.D. candidacy even in that half-baked profit-generating degree mill that churned out Fonseca and the guy with the hairpiece.

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

One overarching theme in this book is how vindictive, whiny, juvenile, passive aggressive, plain old aggressive, cry until I get my way, manipulative, etc. JA is. Yet not once does KN ever think about what it must have been like for Travis, or anyone else for that matter, to have to deal with her. To me, it is a major disconnect with the book. It seems like KN thinks everyone in her life should have been able to interact with her like she was a normal human being. Maybe TA didn't get rid of her in a timely fashion because she wouldn't let him. Maybe her family was so worn down by dealing with her that they were relieved to be rid of her. These ideas never seem to cross KN's mind.

He hints at some later falling out between him and JW. He calls her Jennifer instead of Ms. Willmott in his book because friends call each other by their first name and he hopes "someday" JW will come to see him once again as a friend. Same with MDLR. Oh and trial watchers are not allowed to judge either of these women because we don't know them like he does.

 

[RickshawFan]

Just statements like that make me livid. It reeks of spitting in the face of AZ. taxpayers that he made FAR more money than Juan. In the end, those $$$ will fade, and so will the face of that fool. :tantrum: I wish the AG investigation was into an audit of those $$$.

I kinda took that phrase that AZ taxpayers got their money worth with JM to inadvertently imply they did not get their money worth with Nurmi. Nurmi was, after all, paid by taxpayers.

Another example of Nurmi's total lack of critical thinking skills that his statement could be read this way.

 

[Hope4More]

One overarching theme in this book is how vindictive, whiny, juvenile, passive aggressive, plain old aggressive, cry until I get my way, manipulative, etc. JA is. Yet not once does KN ever think about what it must have been like for Travis, or anyone else for that matter, to have to deal with her. To me, it is a major disconnect with the book. It seems like KN thinks everyone in her life should have been able to interact with her like she was a normal human being. Maybe TA didn't get rid of her in a timely fashion because she wouldn't let him. Maybe her family was so worn down by dealing with her that they were relieved to be rid of her. These ideas never seem to cross KN's mind.

He hints at some later falling out between him and JW. He calls her Jennifer instead of Ms. Willmott in his book because friends call each other by their first name and he hopes "someday" JW will come to see him once again as a friend. Same with MDLR. Oh and trial watchers are not allowed to judge either of these women because we don't know them like he does.

Do you have any idea when he and the......(i will behave).....ladies had a falling out? Later as after the trial?

And...do I understand that right? He, the attorney, is grovelling after MDLR the ethically challenged foul mouthed contractor mitigation specialist to regain HER respect?


Interesting, your take on that disconnect. I wonder if that kind of disconnect (to a lesser degree) is typical for defense attorneys? I bet being able to compartmentalize would be a useful and maybe even necessary skill. How else could one feel energized enough to get up each morning to defend the indefensible?

 

[Steve44]

One overarching theme in this book is how vindictive, whiny, juvenile, passive aggressive, plain old aggressive, cry until I get my way, manipulative, etc. JA is. Yet not once does KN ever think about what it must have been like for Travis, or anyone else for that matter, to have to deal with her. To me, it is a major disconnect with the book. It seems like KN thinks everyone in her life should have been able to interact with her like she was a normal human being. Maybe TA didn't get rid of her in a timely fashion because she wouldn't let him. Maybe her family was so worn down by dealing with her that they were relieved to be rid of her. These ideas never seem to cross KN's mind.

He hints at some later falling out between him and JW. He calls her Jennifer instead of Ms. Willmott in his book because friends call each other by their first name and he hopes "someday" JW will come to see him once again as a friend. Same with MDLR. Oh and trial watchers are not allowed to judge either of these women because we don't know them like he does.

LOL He's pissed both of them off. Apparently he can't even get along with his own team or maintain a civil working relationship. What a winner...er..whiner.

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

Do you have any idea when he and the......(i will behave).....ladies had a falling out? Later as after the trial?

And...do I understand that right? He, the attorney, is grovelling after MDLR the ethically challenged foul mouthed contractor mitigation specialist to regain HER respect?


Interesting, your take on that disconnect. I wonder if that kind of disconnect (to a lesser degree) is typical for defense attorneys? I bet being able to compartmentalize would be a useful and maybe even necessary skill. How else could one feel energized enough to get up each morning to defend the indefensible?

As with everything, the falling out will be discussed "in a later book." Gag.

No indication yet as to the falling out. He said he wanted to make sure he and co-counsel would be real friends so that JA couldn't drive a wedge between them, playing one attorney against the other to get her way (oh, could he read her like a book). He seems to be saying that that isn't what happened here. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest what it was about or when it occurred.

And KN says while he wishes MDLR didn't do and say some of the things she did and said, she is a highly respected, intelligent woman who deserves nothing short of praise. Of course there will be more on that in a later book.

And, your earlier post summarizing KN and this book? 100 percent correct on all counts. And perfectly stated.

 

[Steve44]

Do you have any idea when he and the......(i will behave).....ladies had a falling out? Later as after the trial?

And...do I understand that right? He, the attorney, is grovelling after MDLR the ethically challenged foul mouthed contractor mitigation specialist to regain HER respect?


Interesting, your take on that disconnect. I wonder if that kind of disconnect (to a lesser degree) is typical for defense attorneys? I bet being able to compartmentalize would be a useful and maybe even necessary skill. How else could one feel energized enough to get up each morning to defend the indefensible?

The only time compartmentalization and disconnection are useful to an attorney are when they are directed, focused, limited, deliberate, and helpful. With Nurmi it seems they are widespread, indiscriminate, embarrassing, and genetic.

 

[Zuri]

About the nude photos, he says poor JA in her braids looked "like a lifeless blow up doll" while TA looked like he was "having the time of his life." Did he see the same pictures we did? Oh and TA has a butt fetish to take photos of JA's anus (he says these are not pictures of her butt, they are pictures of her anus and then uses the word anus about a million times), photos that looked more like a proctology exam.

Sorry to ruin anyone's breakfast.

We had a few more "by in larges" thrown in for good measure, and he said he picked JW as co-counsel off some county approved list because he knew she would not "go rouge". Yes, he said rouge, not rogue.

Because I'm feeling particularly snarky I went to my Goodreads account to enter this book. Except even searching by ISBN number it isn't there. LOL. So much for this being a huge #1 hit.

Thank you so much for sharing qthe snippets. Have you come across Nurmi's written use of "three whole wonder" yet? Sort of like the "by in large" usage.

 

[Hope4More]

Pink...sorry, another question. What is your sense of who Nurmi thinks his reading audience is? From what you've posted it seems he is speaking directly to "trial watchers."

Does he bother to provide any comprehensive overview of the trials, however biased, so that readers who didn't follow the trial can understand what the heck he's spouting off about?

And if intended for just hardcore trial followers. WTH. How exactly does he think he's gonna rehabilitate himself with this book? "Haters" are going to be angry and disgusted that he continues to attack Travis and JM and now others too, including the truly impressive DeMarte, and the killer's fans will condemn him for bad mouthing their goddess.

 

[Steve44]

Thank you so much for sharing qthe snippets. Have you come across Nurmi's written use of "three whole wonder" yet? Sort of like the "by in large" usage.

Hmm...'by in large' does seem like an appropriate description of some of her pictures...

 

[Hope4More]

Reading how Nurmi is just regurgitating the defense case lies and BS, with a sprinkling of dirt about his client thrown in, I'm really looking forward to Juan's book. At least Juan's book will be anchored by facts and reality. Nurmi is as delusional as his killer client. :facepalm:

Given that Nurmi's regurgitation of her lies gives them a facade of believability she never achieved on her own, and given that his book is giving her lies voice when at long fricking last she's been silenced, I'm thinking she may well have waived AC privilege....may have been willing to risk Nurm's badmouthing her in exchange for another chance to inflict pain and to be spoken about...

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

I don't know how to multiquote.

Zuri, I LOLed at three "whole" wonder. I had never seen that before. But yes, on page 185, he mentions that TA calls her a "3 whole wonder."

H4M, I am not sure who the intended audience is, truth be told. I think he is trying to do a pre-emptive strike of when JM shows the world what a terrible attorney/person he is. The book jumps around a lot. I don't think it is intended to be a book for those who know nothing about JA, though. The book is very condescending. A lot of "if you don't know what I mean by that, let me try to explain" followed by two pages of explanation most people could have handled in 2-3 sentences.

Steve44, you are making me LOL.

So. For those of you with access to BK's site, what is it that people think is so great about this book? It is really just a the world according to KN book, nothing more than that.

 

[Hope4More]

Nurmi has obviously gotten into Jenny's stash. He cannot believe Juan spent so much time interviewing ALV pre-trial, especially since they were in a cramped room in JW's office (you can't make this up, as if that is Juan's fault). According to KN, "LaViolette's conclusions were not subject to any legitimate challenge and Mr. Martinez seemed to be figuring this out as he progressed during the interview." He seems to me to be pissed off that JM didn't take everything she said as gospel.

And then there is this quote: "What makes you, the trial watcher, so positive that Ms. LaViolette is wrong? What makes you, the trial watcher think that you know more about domestic violence than Ms. LaViolette?" I'm sort of waiting for him to trash the jury next.

He not only speaks directly to "you, the trial watcher" (CREEPY), but while doing so tells them they have no right to their own opinions?

And he expects these ignoramous trial watchers who dare to disagree with him or dislike him to.......buy volume 2 and 3?

LMAO.

 

[Steve44]

Given that Nurmi's regurgitation of her lies gives them a facade of believability she never achieved on her own, and given that his book is giving her lies voice when at long fricking last she's been silenced, I'm thinking she may well have waived AC privilege....may have been willing to risk Nurm's badmouthing her in exchange for another chance to inflict pain and to be spoken about...

Still...not likely imo. He's already held back citing A/C privilege, and for at least some of what he said he indicates she waived confidentiality by speaking in public.

She may want attention and publicity, but she would want to be in control. She wouldn't accept him speaking for her and not saying exactly what she wanted, no more and no less.

Nurmis book is Nurmis book, everyone is fair game, except himself. He's relatively forgiving of anyone who would reflect back on him, and holds ridiculously degrading opinions of everyone else.