DeepWoodsOff
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So nothing more on those hoses? Talk about leaving us hanging. MOO
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I'd guess he is just saying that he wouldn't have been able to lift a 160 lb man in to an incinerator.
I assume that Andrew meant that given that DM could foresee a guilty verdict in advance of the trial (based on evidence disclosure), he should have just changed his plea to guilty (especially if he had no intent of defending himself). I agree and often wonder this about accused criminals; if the case is pretty much a slam dunk, why not plead guilty and save everyone's time.
I remember an interview with the detective questioning Russel Williams. He said that he played to RW's intelligence: "look I have all this evidence against you, why bother denying it". It worked in this case (although RW's wish to shield his wife from a trial was apparently a big factor in his admission of the crimes - if I recall correctly)
So many unanswered IMO. Hoses. MB not charged or questioned. Actually why a bunch of them haven't been charged period. I mean they all admitted to drugs and thefts. I don't get it.So nothing more on those hoses? Talk about leaving us hanging. MOO
maybe, though I was referring to the shooting. I can't see how an injury to his left shoulder rules out him being the shooter unless he's left handed and even then we couldn't rule it out, depending on whether his left arm was demonstrably impaired (just having a doctor appointment is insufficient IMO unless a doctor testifies so, having examined him previously)
even in in the lifting into the incinerator aspect it doesn't necessarily disprove that he helped (unless a doctor testifies that he was physically unable). Some people can work through pain if they are required/willing/able to do so.
It was not my intent to insinuate any of this was TB's fault. MS may try to insinuate that he was protecting himself from harm when he shot TB and it was self defence.... Like anyone would believe him!Whether or not TB put up any fight against his assailants makes no difference in my mind about TB being 100% the victim. Whatever the truth is - and whether or not MS tells it and is believed or not - TB's family will NEVER think less of TB no matter how he reacted in the terrifying circumstance he was forced into, IMO. I think TB's family just wants to know the truth of what happened, IMO, and they know already beyond all doubt and always will that what happened to TB was not his fault.
All MOO.
Unless he pleads guilty I don't see the point. He's even closer to this than CN. For him to pretend he didn't know anything bad was going to happen and had no idea there was a clean up going on is impossible to believe. To go up there and tell lies could do him a lifetime of damage. If he is sticking to his not guilty plea then I think he is already in the best position he could be right now. Why ruin it.Who else is dying for Mark to get on the stand and tell all?????????
I unapproved my own post about the Rafferty trial so as not to confuse ... because in the Bosma case, we have DM's defence presenting no witnesses/evidence, but with MS's defence doing so. So, not sure how this will play out unless we can find a legal precedent.
Well, wow. DM's defense sure did him loads of good, didn't they?
As for TD and who will be called, I'd love to believe MS has actually told his lawyer the truth about what happened that night and TD is going to put him on the stand to lay it out, once and for all. One would think, if one KNOWS their client is a murdering piece of garbage, they'd genuinely have no defense (oh, hi Millard, how are you?). But one would also think, if their dumb client just happened to be along to steal a truck and never shot anyone, then that defense attorney would want to make sure the jury heard that.
I know it's a lot of wishful thinking but I know many of us here never believed MS pulled the trigger in the first place. I guess we'll find out beginning Wednesday where TD plans to go with this.
Thanks for this. Interesting to hear how shocked DM was. Suck it DM. Lol
thoughts on this anyone? Why did Dungey get to make clarifications? Was this an opening statement? And I understand emphasizing the shoulder injury....but why the breach of the no contact order with Arthur?
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 53m53 minutes ago
Thomas Dungey up to make a couple clarifications about evidence the jury has heard. #Bosma
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 51m51 minutes ago
Thomas Dungey clarifying two points to jury: Smich's left shoulder was hurt; Smich had contact with "Arthur" about joint charge they faced.
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 51m51 minutes ago
The first is that Mark Smich's shoulder injury (that Marlena Meneses testified about) was to his LEFT shoulder. #Bosma
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49m49 minutes ago
Also the 2nd clarification Dungey made (jumping back) is that no-contact order Smich breached w friend Arthur related to a mischief charge.
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 52m52 minutes ago
Dungey is telling jury his client Smich agrees he had a hurt left shoulder in May 2013, & he had a no-contact order with "Arthur"
Why would a no contact order be a joint charge between MS and Arthur but not an issue between DM and CN? Is it because CN refused it?
To further expand as CN eloquently pointed out. It was HIS restriction not hersProbably because Smich and Arthur were jointly charged with an offence and both ordered not to speak to each other, and at the time the order for DM was made CN was not charged with anything.
Why would he be forthcoming now? Hopefully he'll tell all to 48hrs from behind bars
Not sure I agree with this. My assult trial, the defense called 2 character witnesses on the a-holes defense. Not that they helped him much but that's all defense presented during the trial, not at sentencing. The victom impact statements are done at sentencing though.
We know that MS provided a statement of fact that he was on the IT test drive. DM seemed to suggest in his letters that both AM and MS made damaging statements, for DM at least. I wonder if there was more to MS's statement?
There is little doubt MS was there, but exactly where when the murder took place?
MOO