ArianeEmory
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I understand why people do it, but the prison-rape humor is kind of eh. JMO
After all this with the letters ect...I am thinking DM pulled the trigger of MS's gun...MS was in the Yukon at the time of the shot(s) fired. GSR found all over the RAM truck....but non was found in the Yukon?? (if I remember correctly)....shooting in the truck produced a high concentration of GSR....pulling a tigger even more....pulling a trigger then moving back to the Yukon would have transferred high concetrations of GSR in the Yukon.
The plan was to steal and kill...Only MS was called to the "mission" because the plan was for the seller to never come home.
MS was tasked with cleaning the RAM truck (which he failed at), manning the incinerator (which he likely didn't do properly as per DM's instruction).
MS likely couldn't keep up after it all went down....so DM was scrambling.
CN was the only person he could reach out to in an attempt to manipulate and try to save his *advertiser censored*.
While CN is guilty after the fact - of going along with him ect, she is "not over him" in the least and may never be. She did not "end" the relationship on her terms - an arrest prematurely did....over time and with age she maybe would have came to her senses and likely grown apart from him. She has no closure and will continue to be drawn to him until she finally finds what she is looking for in some else...that will be hard. When they are both in jail I would assume they could write each other.... When she is out and he is still in I would suspect she will visit.
All MOO on a Friday am.
Thinking of the Bosma's today and always...it could have been any family...my husband even. She had it right. The devil smiled at her before taking Tim away....chilling
Snipped for relevance from Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
(2) Murder is first degree murder when it is planned and deliberate.
(5) Irrespective of whether a murder is planned and deliberate on the part of any person, murder is first degree murder in respect of a person when the death is caused by that person while committing or attempting to commit an offence under one of the following sections:
(a) section 76 (hijacking an aircraft);
(b) section 271 (sexual assault);
(c) section 272 (sexual assault with a weapon, threats to a third party or causing bodily harm);
(d) section 273 (aggravated sexual assault);
(e) section 279 (kidnapping and forcible confinement); or
(f) section 279.1 (hostage taking).
So could it be that the forcible confinement charge was simply the charge to hold DM while they got evidence of the murder charge in place, or is it an alternative in case the jury don't find 'planned and deliberate?
At the time of the charge, TB's whereabouts was still unknown but one thing is for sure his truck is missing and there is a chance he is still alive. But because LE has no proof that TB is still alive, forcible confinement is what applies to the crime committed. LE then upgraded the charge to murder after discovering TB's cremains in the eliminator.
ETA: And both would have touched it before the arrest, hence the panic after the arrest.
I wonder how soon DM decided to blame MS?
There would be no point to wiping DM's prints from the trailer locks. The reason was it is his own property ever since he bought it (or stolen it) and his prints would be all over it anyway.
Pointless. It would be the same as my sons wiping my prints from my walker if I had committed a crime with that and was currently in jail.
Snipped for relevance from Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
(2) Murder is first degree murder when it is planned and deliberate.
(5) Irrespective of whether a murder is planned and deliberate on the part of any person, murder is first degree murder in respect of a person when the death is caused by that person while committing or attempting to commit an offence under one of the following sections:
(a) section 76 (hijacking an aircraft);
(b) section 271 (sexual assault);
(c) section 272 (sexual assault with a weapon, threats to a third party or causing bodily harm);
(d) section 273 (aggravated sexual assault);
(e) section 279 (kidnapping and forcible confinement); or
(f) section 279.1 (hostage taking).
So could it be that the forcible confinement charge was simply the charge to hold DM while they got evidence of the murder charge in place, or is it an alternative in case the jury don't find 'planned and deliberate?
Im not 100% sure what is going on. Im sure it will be explained in the closing statement and the instructions to the jury, but I haven't heard talk of forcible confinement. I have seen lots of talk of premeditation though.
Why did DM admit to writing the letters?
This is why I think a lawyer helped. I don't know how Hamilton jails work, but find it hard to believe it's any differnt then other jails. You go in, show ID, get buzzed through a steal door, take a seat and talk on phones with glass between visitor and inmate. Mommy's don't have special privilege! My mother didn't either and dad was in for something supid, not murder! The only way mommy rabbit could pass CN'S letters directly, would be for DM to read them up against the glass.
I haven't made it past this post yet, so not sure if anyone that's familiar with Hamilton jail answered this yet. Sorry in advance as I read on
I agree, the various sex acts and in particular the under steering wheel favour that she (unnecessarily) testified of, IMO, is her way of continuing to communicate with her DM, to keep him fantasizing about the Arabian Princess while they are apart.So is it believed that she is still in love with him? Otherwise, why would she care?
Wait a minute. DMs letters align with MMs report to police because his lawyer is feeding him evidence so far. DM gets to spin this evidence in his favour. MM does not know what MS means by that comment. DMs letters are written after the damning comment is in evidence.
After all this with the letters ect...I am thinking DM pulled the trigger of MS's gun...MS was in the Yukon at the time of the shot(s) fired. GSR found all over the RAM truck....but non was found in the Yukon?? (if I remember correctly)....shooting in the truck produced a high concentration of GSR....pulling a tigger even more....pulling a trigger then moving back to the Yukon would have transferred high concetrations of GSR in the Yukon.
The plan was to steal and kill...Only MS was called to the "mission" because the plan was for the seller to never come home.
MS was tasked with cleaning the RAM truck (which he failed at), manning the incinerator (which he likely didn't do properly as per DM's instruction).
MS likely couldn't keep up after it all went down....so DM was scrambling.
CN was the only person he could reach out to in an attempt to manipulate and try to save his *advertiser censored*.
While CN is guilty after the fact - of going along with him ect, she is "not over him" in the least and may never be. She did not "end" the relationship on her terms - an arrest prematurely did....over time and with age she maybe would have came to her senses and likely grown apart from him. She has no closure and will continue to be drawn to him until she finally finds what she is looking for in some else...that will be hard. When they are both in jail I would assume they could write each other.... When she is out and he is still in I would suspect she will visit.
All MOO on a Friday am.
Thinking of the Bosma's today and always...it could have been any family...my husband even. She had it right. The devil smiled at her before taking Tim away....chilling
It looks like the crown has three possible 'Nature' of the crime to get a 1st degree, IMO.
was planned and deliberate
while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping and forcible confinement
while committing intimidation.
Table taken from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(Canadian_law)