Brandon Scott Lavergne - New Evidence Revealed

[bessie]

Since I have the statement pulled up, someone earlier on was expressing concern about how Mickey got into his vehicle. The actual language in the plea agreement says she was "enticed or persuaded to enter the Defendant's Z71, or was forced into the Defendant's Z71." So I don't think there is any worries about the language matching what happened.

Nope, no worries, because either way, he kidnapped her. That language comes directly from the statute.

LA Rev Stat §14:44.1.

§44.1. Second degree kidnapping

A. Second degree kidnapping is the doing of any of the acts listed in Subsection B wherein the victim is...
(1) Used as a shield or hostage;
(2) Used to facilitate the commission of a felony or the flight after an attempt to commit or the commission of a felony;
(3) Physically injured or sexually abused;
(4) Imprisoned or kidnapped for seventy-two or more hours, except as provided in R.S. 14:45(A)(4) or (5); or
(5) Imprisoned or kidnapped when the offender is armed with a dangerous weapon or leads the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon.

B. For purposes of this Section, kidnapping is:
(1) The forcible seizing and carrying of any person from one place to another; or
(2) The enticing or persuading of any person to go from one place to another; or
(3) The imprisoning or forcible secreting of any person.

LA Rev Stat §14:44.1

Statement in Support of Plea bottom of p.5

 

[reedus23]

Nope, no worries, because either way, he kidnapped her. That language comes directly from the statute.

LA Rev Stat §14:44.1.

§44.1. Second degree kidnapping

A. Second degree kidnapping is the doing of any of the acts listed in Subsection B wherein the victim is...
(1) Used as a shield or hostage;
(2) Used to facilitate the commission of a felony or the flight after an attempt to commit or the commission of a felony;
(3) Physically injured or sexually abused;
(4) Imprisoned or kidnapped for seventy-two or more hours, except as provided in R.S. 14:45(A)(4) or (5); or
(5) Imprisoned or kidnapped when the offender is armed with a dangerous weapon or leads the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon.

B. For purposes of this Section, kidnapping is:
(1) The forcible seizing and carrying of any person from one place to another; or
(2) The enticing or persuading of any person to go from one place to another; or
(3) The imprisoning or forcible secreting of any person.

LA Rev Stat §14:44.1

Statement in Support of Plea bottom of p.5

Thanks Bessie. As always, finding the right words to make what I'm trying to say that much clearer. :rocker:

 

[Coullion]

From KLFY's news cast this evening about Mighty Mick. "Forget Me Not" Part 1 and Part 2
http://www.klfy.com/story/19947279/forget-me-not

 

[IMPondering]

Sorry if this was posted earlier, if so I missed it.


And don’t think for a second the assistant district attorneys prosecuting Lavergne bought his version of events. Prosecutors got out of Lavergne a sufficient factual basis to establish that he murdered Shunick in order to send him to prison for the rest of his life, which was their primary objective, but the story they told in court is markedly different from Lavergne's account.

“We think that he soft-pedaled his involvement to minimize the heinous nature of the crime,” says ADA Danny Landry, who declined to be specific about just how much of Lavergne's story he doesn’t buy. “Only two people know exactly what happened, and one them was murdered by Brandon Scott Lavergne.”




http://www.theind.com/news/indrepor...ideotaped-version-of-shunick-killing-released

 

[OceanMetTheSky]

The forget me not special was very sad. Her bed was all fixed like it was just another day.

 

[Crimson clover]

Even worse than that would be to feel what her parents and family feel, knowing what happened to her, every single second of every single day for the rest of their lives. In MO the death penalty and LWOP pale in comparison to their punishment.

BBM
Beautifully stated, frenchie. It's like I heard church bells!

 

[bessie]

The forget me not special was very sad. Her bed was all fixed like it was just another day.

I know.

 

[Artis]

I really don't understand the controversy.
I understand Mickey's friends want to go on with life.

However, there's many more potential victims who would like to know more about bsl. If things like this are always kept from the public, no one will take incidents like this seriously.

Had the public not constantly talked about killers like Jeffrey dahner or Ted Bundy, the public would have even less caution than they do now.

It's true, to understand criminals, you must learn how they think.

Agreed. This is the best kind of criminal psych education anyone can get.

Lavergne is a serial killer, I'm certain. They lie. This is an example of it. Not a surprise.

 

[frenchie]

@ IMPondering- "And don’t think for a second the assistant district attorneys prosecuting Lavergne bought his version of events."
Agreed, IMPondering, and well said, however, it's dismaying and very saddening that others are questioning themselves after this new release. Mrs. Nancy, for example, in that beautiful tribute to Mickey's life on klfy, wonders whether the public would feel differently if Mickey had been riding in a car instead of on a bicycle. And Charlie's comment on another forum suggests that's she, too, wonders about public opinion. This must be agonizing for them.
And I know this has been mentioned, but look at BSL's body language during the confession. This is not an innocent man! Of course he will twist facts b/c his only thought is self-preservation. The fact that he lied about the sexual assault case in Evangeline Parish (and went to great lengths to clear himself), that he assaulted his former wife, and that he murdered Lisa Pate does not speak for itself?
So now we're supposed to forget these events b/c his videoed confession that questions his victim's reputation, has been released?
With all due respect, I'm not certain with whom I'm more angry- BSL or the public who perpetuates his insanity.
That's all.

 

[SwampMama]

.... in this case a more horrific scenario would be to have faced what Mickey (in all of her innocence) did at his hands. Even worse than that would be to feel what her parents and family feel, knowing what happened to her, every single second of every single day for the rest of their lives. In MO the death penalty and LWOP pale in comparison to their punishment.

Respectfully snipped.....

Oh how I wish we could sentence convicted criminals to have to experience the pain they have inflicted upon other. But most would never be able to experience the anguish they caused their victim and their victim's families because many of them don't have the capacity to feel that way. It's like a part of their heart is missing and they can't sympathize, empathize or feel badly for anyone but themselves.

I would have liked the death penalty for him but I realize that the plea bargain brought some closure to the case, spared Mickey's family the anguish of a prolonged trial packed with BSL's self serving lies and most importantly, allowed Mickey's family to bring her home for a proper burial.

I am so glad to know how much BSL hated prison. It does me good to know that he is in a place that he hates and will be there for the rest of his life. From what I understand, he was sentenced to hard labor at Angola Prison and was sent there after he pleaded guilty and the paperwork was done.

I have been to Angola ( for the Angola Prison Rodeo and craft fair). I know people who work at Angola, in fact SwampDaddy used to work there. But BSL won't be enjoying his stay there at all. He was sentenced to hard labor and let me tell you, at Angola, they mean it. The prisoners must work 8 hour days for 5 days a week, usually in the fields planting, tending to and harvesting HUGE crops which are used in the prison system for feed prisoners and sold to other prisons as well. It is NOT an easy job. That Louisiana sun is unmerciful! If he refuses to work, then it is off to solitary confinement for him.

He will be in a place where is is no longer in control and any displays of his temper or anger will be dealt with swiftly by people who have complete control over his life. His rage will get him nothing but punishment and isolation. He won't be able to bully or hurt innocent people anymore.

 

[CajunA]

I really don't understand the controversy.
I understand Mickey's friends want to go on with life.

However, there's many more potential victims who would like to know more about bsl. If things like this are always kept from the public, no one will take incidents like this seriously.

Had the public not constantly talked about killers like Jeffrey dahner or Ted Bundy, the public would have even less caution than they do now.

It's true, to understand criminals, you must learn how they think.

And notice how BSL describes his incidents with his victims as things starting off consensual then taken to far, or getting out of hand. like his intentions were good but he ended tying and blind folding the poor girl. Or how everything was fine until she tried robbing my wallet &truck .And lastly we agreed not to call the cops but she broke her word and that's when things went bad. Sounds like he believes his lies because he doesn't want to see himself as the monsterish psycho he really is. Just my observation on a sort of way BSL thinks.

 

[CajunA]

And another thing I think he his plan was to intentionally (which we all know) hit Mickey but get out his truck pretending he didn't see her saying something like Oh man I'm so sorry are you ok ... to make her think he hit her by accident. I think he persuaded her into his truck offering to bring her home(which was a big fat lie) and once he started driving the opposite way from the way to her house is when she realized this guy hit me on purpose and is going to try to rape me and Lord only know what else he's capable of? And that's when she grabbed her phone, he pulled his knife out threatening her. She slowly and undetectably retrieved her mace and gathered her courage and proceed to mace him got his knife and you all pretty much have knowledge of what likely occured. This is my opinion only...no facts just my thoughts.

 

[Crimson clover]

Happy Halloween, my WS peeps. Hope you all had a great day!

 

[engrgurl]

JMO but I disagree with the premeditation aspect. Events could have happened as Brandon said. Mickey just didn't realize how desperately he didn't want to return to prison. Brandon reacted as someone previously incarcerated and his damaged primal fight or flight thinking led to the rest of the events.

 

[megmono]

JMO but I disagree with the premeditation aspect. Events could have happened as Brandon said. Mickey just didn't realize how desperately he didn't want to return to prison. Brandon reacted as someone previously incarcerated and his damaged primal fight or flight thinking led to the rest of the events.

right. just like it was lisa's fault for taking the keys to his truck so she could get back to her kids. or it was his wifes fault because he warned her. just my opinion but the premeditation came when he turned his truck around immediately after passing mickey. or when he coerced her into the truck. or when he wouldnt call the cops. or the rumor he had been drinking when several people stated he did not drink. every single step and decision he made was his own.

 

[reedus23]

JMO but I disagree with the premeditation aspect. Events could have happened as Brandon said. Mickey just didn't realize how desperately he didn't want to return to prison. Brandon reacted as someone previously incarcerated and his damaged primal fight or flight thinking led to the rest of the events.

First, understand that premeditation doesn't mean he had to have planned it out days or even hours ahead of time. Unless Louisiana law is different, premeditation can occur within seconds before the crime. There just had to be sufficient time for him to realize what he was doing. Beyond that, understand that the interview of BSL recently released is only his first version of how events transpired. It is my understanding that he made more incriminating statements following that and further it is my understanding that this initial version does not coincide with other evidence collected.

 

[Coullion]

right. just like it was lisa's fault for taking the keys to his truck so she could get back to her kids. or it was his wifes fault because he warned her. just my opinion but the premeditation came when he turned his truck around immediately after passing mickey. or when he coerced her into the truck. or when he wouldnt call the cops. or the rumor he had been drinking when several people stated he did not drink. every single step and decision he made was his own.

BBM

This is one of these "Thanks button is not enough" replies

 

[reedus23]

May God bless both Lisa and Mickey. They in no way deserved what was dealt to them by BSL. I pray for them and their families.

 

[SwampMama]

JMO but I disagree with the premeditation aspect. Events could have happened as Brandon said. Mickey just didn't realize how desperately he didn't want to return to prison. Brandon reacted as someone previously incarcerated and his damaged primal fight or flight thinking led to the rest of the events.

BBM. I don;t quite understand that statement. It almost sounds as though you are putting some of the blame on Mickey because she didn't happen to realize she was dealing with a man who was guilty of raping a woman, killing another woman and abusing his own wife repeatedly.

He was on the prowl, drinking and getting very frustrated, probably infuriated that he had been turned down by 24 escort agencies! He was going to find a woman and make sure she didn't tell him "no".

If he was so worried about going back to prison then he shouldn't have been out drinking and driving, carrying a gun or trying to solicit sex for pay from escort agencies. If all he wanted was female companionship, well he had a fiance, didn't he, as well as the woman in Texas who was carrying his child.

It has been proven that he saw her and changed lanes to pursue her. He hit her ON PURPOSE. If he had accidentally hit her, I am quite sure he would have fled the scene to avoid being charged or dealing with cops.

Honestly, your insistence on giving him the benefit of the doubt is scary and worries me. I am not saying that in a sarcastic or mean way but in a way of genuine concern. Your generosity in trying to give him the benefit of the doubt is exactly what he would be looking for in a victim. Do you know what he would do with your concern and empathy for him? He would use it against you to disarm you, then turn on you in a heartbeat and rape and kill with no remorse at all.

I can understand you wanting to try to see something redeemable in him, trying to give him some benefit of the doubt. That says something good about you and I hope you can channel that towards people who are deserving of it. BSL has unfortunately shown time and time again that he is not someone to be trusted and that is why he is where he is today.

 

[danzn16]

Finally got to watch the Forget me Not special. So very sad. I didn't know Nancy was from NC, it makes it hit home even harder for some reason. I will never forget mickey. She has changed my life permanently. And I never even knew her.