Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #5

[H0NEYWEST]

Yikes! It's taken me all afternoon to read the previous posts. The underwear discovery (and the fact LE released the information) is amazing.

We have a lot of interesting intelligent speculations on this thread. My mind keeps going back and forth - panties were another victim's/he stole them, he's a late-20s to early 30s loner/he's a married guy next door type, etc. Two things have crossed my mind:

1) The released description of what the perp was wearing changed a little bit: "They describe the suspect as white man with light brown/dirty blonde hair. He is 5'8'' to 5' 10'' with a slender to medium build. The victim said the suspect was wearing a dark hooded pull over sweat shirt with no zippers or markings, athletic type nylon silver sweat pants with black stripes, and white tennis shoes." http://www.krnv.com/global/story.asp?s=7892883

2) - Now this gets me - in earlier descriptions (from the rape victim) it states that the perp had shaved pubic hair, something we haven't talked about very much here. Shaved Pubes? WTF is up with that? I quizzed my Insignificant Other about it, and once he got passed the EEEEEEWWWWW, he really couldn't come up with an answer as to why a guy would do that (although I know some do).

Could it be that the perp didn't want to leave any pubic hairs on his victims (for a DNA match)? My IO mentioned that it could be a "metro-sexual" kind of thing (he's in L.A.), but Reno's not exactly a mecca for for trendy guys.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Thanks for the insight, guys. This has taken a perverse weird turn.

 

[panthera]

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Could it be that the perp didn't want to leave any pubic hairs on his victims (for a DNA match)? My IO mentioned that it could be a "metro-sexual" kind of thing (he's in L.A.), but Reno's not exactly a mecca for for trendy guys.

But he still left his DNA in some other form so that defeats his purpose of shaving. I also can't comprehend it. :sick:

 

[panthera]

My search for "pink panther black thong" earlier gave me the distinct impression that that sort of shaving is fairly common in the gay *advertiser censored* world - information I could do without, thank you very much.

There's a lot of information I can do without too and sometimes it's nice to be ignorant of what goes on out there.

 

[KR2tonenow]

OK, is it possible that a man/woman is involved in some weird perverse way.

I don't want to assume that the panties are from a victim. Seems to me a "couple" could be involved.

No one has turned this guy in~ a girlfriend, wife, mother, landlady, neighbor, so???

 

[DeltaDawn]

Yikes! It's taken me all afternoon to read the previous posts. The underwear discovery (and the fact LE released the information) is amazing.

We have a lot of interesting intelligent speculations on this thread. My mind keeps going back and forth - panties were another victim's/he stole them, he's a late-20s to early 30s loner/his a married guy next door, etc. Two things have crossed my mind:

1) The released description of what the perp was wearing changed a little bit: "They describe the suspect as white man with light brown/dirty blonde hair. He is 5'8'' to 5' 10'' with a slender to medium build. The victim said the suspect was wearing a dark hooded pull over sweat shirt with no zippers or markings, athletic type nylon silver sweat pants with black stripes, and white tennis shoes." http://www.krnv.com/global/story.asp?s=7892883

2) - Now this gets me - in earlier descriptions (from the rape victim) it states that the perp had shaved pubic hair, something we haven't talked about very much here. Shaved Pubes? WTF is up with that? I quizzed my Insignificant Other about it, and once he got passed the EEEEEEWWWWW, he really couldn't come up with an answer as to why a guy would do that (although I know some do).

Could it be that the perp didn't want to leave any pubic hairs on his victims (for a DNA match)? My IO mentioned that it could be a "metro-sexual" kind of thing (he's in L.A.), but Reno's not exactly a mecca for for trendy guys.

I noticed that the description changed and attributed the change in clothing to this being another of his vics describing what he was wearing, maybe the one where he fondled her, describing what he wore that night. Aren't there three other vics now? So I would think his clothing might be different in each case.

The pubic hair is strange..and actually I can't see why a man would do this..it also is a clue if he has a wife or girlfriend they certainly would have noticed that. Maybe he doesn't want to pick up lice or other critters and since he rapes people he doesn't want to pick up their bugs and diseases..he even used a condom the one vic said. I don't think that is very usual for a rapist to worry about using a condom. Maybe we are dealing with someone who is overly concerned with their health or cleanliness, like to the point of opcd.

 

[SuziQ]

lol, Honeywest there was about a whole thread taken up on the discussion of "shaving". It just about got outta hand. More info than you ever wanted to know.....KWIM?

Bottom line is, and pardon the pun, shaving it common according to the WS personal impromptu poll. The two main reasons behind it is for hygene, it's cleaner. And no pubs in your mouth from giving oral sex.

 

[SuziQ]

Delta and Panthera! You both were around for the last discussion on this weren't you? Shaving is not a shocking or noticable trait. It's a common as having a mustache or not having one.

 

[LionRun]

Actually, we did go round and round about the male pubic hair shaving deal. According to a number of posters that are from various parts of the country it is not uncommon for men to shave there. Heck, I must be in the darkest of ages--I never heard of that until this case.

I do think it is a good idea for the public to know that he shaves his pubic area. But, I don't know if it is unique as some may think.

I strongly doubt that he shaved to decrease the chances of DNA being an issue. The sorry excuse for a man left DNA for the forensics specialists to find at least three times in a row. That doesn't show that he was being careful to not leave DNA behind.

Lion

 

[SuziQ]

Most people, especially the under 30-40 crowd view not shaving a pubic area the same as not shaving your armpits. They view it as not being very clean.

 

[panthera]

Delta and Panthera! You both were around for the last discussion on this weren't you? Shaving is not a shocking or noticable trait. It's a common as having a mustache or not having one.

Yes I was here but I still think it's weird (and so does Nancy :crazy: )!!

 

[H0NEYWEST]

My search for "pink panther black thong" earlier gave me the distinct impression that that sort of shaving is fairly common in the gay *advertiser censored* world - information I could do without, thank you very much.

Yeah, that's what my IO was saying. Something that started with some in the gay community, and then was adopted by straight guys for whatever reason.

 

[H0NEYWEST]

But he still left his DNA in some other form so that defeats his purpose of shaving. I also can't comprehend it. :sick:

True, but early on LE mentioned a specific brand of condom was left at the scene of both the earlier rape and the fondling. Maybe he isn't aware (although who wouldn't be with all the CSI type of shows on TV) of DNA collected from body oils, etc.

Still...shaved???? I think a wife or g/f would...ummmm...notice that.

 

[solidarity]

Shaved Pubes? WTF is up with that? I quizzed my Insignificant Other about it, and once he got passed the EEEEEEWWWWW, he really couldn't come up with an answer as to why a guy would do that (although I know some do).

A guy I used to date, once pointed out to me that most guys on sex videos seem to have their pubes shaved off. He was asking if girls like that.

That has made me wonder if the perpetrator could perhaps work in the sex industry...perhaps sex was coming to him so easy that he needed more of a challenge, if one can put it that way....and he turned to rape.

Just a theory.

 

[Ca-Sun]

Yes I was here but I still think it's weird (and so does Nancy :crazy: )!!

Well, um... thinking it was way too weird I kinda asked around :blushing: and it is NOT common here at all (SF Bay Area.) In fact, everyone thought I was crazy for even wondering! All I've been able to come up with is perps often do it to eliminate leaving any evidence.

 

[SuziQ]

Still...shaved???? I think a wife or g/f would...ummmm...notice that.

Of course they would notice that, but it wouldn't stand out as being unusual if the perp always shaved.

 

[H0NEYWEST]

Most people, especially the under 30-40 crowd view not shaving a pubic area the same as not shaving your armpits. They view it as not being very clean.

You can tell I'm not reading fast enough to keep up and I'm commenting late....

Are you kidding me??? When did this trend start? I have never dated a shaved guy in my life. I'm not saying it isn't popular with some crowds, but did the practice for "most" guys start recently? Or do I just like bad, dirty boys?

 

[Ca-Sun]

Not at my house.

LOL! Nobody here, either - or any friends.

 

[LookOut]

and maybe the shaved groin will help identify him when he is caught,,,,

 

[Ca-Sun]

and maybe the shaved groin will help identify him when he is caught,,,,

No problem if it isn't shaved any more - they have his DNA.