Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #13

[Adalena935]

IIRC from the affidavit...and heck if I want to go back and take another look, he confessed to her grabbing his _ _ _ _ _ and putting it in her mouth...he said he never had vaginal intercourse with AR. (Yeah, like any of us believe him!) Is there a code for rape in the affidavit?

By codes I mean the laws. There's many code (Law) violations listed in both affidavits against Gagnon & Jacques. I think the legal term for rape is sexual assault, but not positive.

The codes named in the affidavits tell what the violations are that Law Enforcement has against them at any rate. Federal statute is anyone under 18 is a child by law. There are many sexual acts named in the affidavits but it doesn't matter because any sexual activity with any minor is against the law & transporting child *advertiser censored* across state lines (even via Internet) is in violation of Federal Law. Carries a life sentence in federal prison for just one incident.

They really have one horrendous case against these two men. I'm so glad. I wonder if the states will prosecute them after the federal govt gets thru prosecuting them? I think Gagnon was trying to save his own hide by confessing to raping JUVENILE 1 in the affidavit. He'll no doubt be a witness against Jacques at trial.

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/...guide_porn.html

It is irrelevant that the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state might be lower than 18.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Two words: flash drive. You can store thousands of pictures on those puppies, and they're no bigger than a cigarette lighter.

However, he would have had to give them to the TSA rep at the airport to make sure nothing was magnetically erased. Would like to see what that footage shows.

:clap:

Yes, and most people wear them around their neck on a cloth string! You can download tremendous amounts of data in less than a minute! I used to do inmate billing and EOM reports. Takes a second to transfer as opposed to FOREVER.

 

[SuziQ]

Okay, here is something that is bothering me from the Affidavit of RG:


Brooke was last seen at 9:20 AM on June 25th at Cumberland Farms, and she was not reported missing until around 9 PM EST on June 25. From page 6 of the Affidavit for RG it states that a "...Myspace posting set forth in paragraph 6 of this affidavit was initially posted from JACQUES laptop computer on June 24, 2008 at 11:40:35 PM EST. This forensic information is consistent with information provided by Myspace." [emphasis added] Post that she allegedly made at that time.



Question: Why was it done the night before she was reported missing if her disappearance/death wasn't premeditated?

Exactly, IMO, her death was premeditated.

 

[Adalena935]

IMO: to fulfill MJ's depraved fantasy, record it, and profit from it.

I absolutely agree with you. He's greedy for money besides being depraved. I don't think there's any way the two of them were going to be in posession of this child *advertiser censored* without profiting monitarily from it. I hope they'll never be free again and I think the feds are compiling a fantastic case against them. Can you imagine the evidence. Nothing is private on the Internet. It's all documented and the federal prosecutors will have it to show the court.

 

[LaLaw2000]

It was planned for at least a month.

Exactly! I had brought up the idea of them making a 'snuff' film at another place that I do not and cannot go to now!
The three PERVERTS were going for the ultimate, IMO!

 

[LaLaw2000]

My personal opinion is that Gagnon had any number of removable hard drives. He kept some in the safe that he asked Grosenheider to dump at a different apt. complex, but could easily have kept a flash drive or two on him at all times for a quick 'fix'. Euww.

Yes. And KG did have an apartment in San Antonio before moving into the house he bought.

 

[cheko1]

I was reading the thread quite a way back that listed some of Jacques' relatives. There was a great-uncle (?) that had moved to Vestaburg, MI. I don't know how long ago. Anyway, I checked on the RSO map there just to see if he might be on it. He wasn't, but there is a "Breckinridge Road" on the map!

Great sleuthing VTNance & welcome to WS!

 

[VTNance]

Exactly! I had brought up the idea of them making a 'snuff' film at another place that I do not and cannot go to now!
The three PERVERTS were going for the ultimate, IMO!

yes, particularly if they hoped to get Juvenile 1 to partcipate.

 

[w1df10wr]

I agree with you that this was premeditated. MJ had this whole story made up that AR caught Brooke up late at night posting on her TX bf's myspace before her "disappearance".

I sure would like to know why Brooke had to be killed.

I keep thinking about the affidavit and how it was mentioned Brooke was a "problem". Savanna was called a nasty name. Did something happen between Brooke or Savanna & AR at school? MJ in his twisted mind, thought he could use that to control AR even more then he already was?

 

[LaLaw2000]

By codes I mean the laws. There's many code (Law) violations listed in both affidavits against Gagnon & Jacques. I think the legal term for rape is sexual assault, but not positive.

The codes named in the affidavits tell what the violations are that Law Enforcement has against them at any rate. Federal statute is anyone under 18 is a child by law. There are many sexual acts named in the affidavits but it doesn't matter because any sexual activity with any minor is against the law & transporting child *advertiser censored* across state lines (even via Internet) is in violation of Federal Law. Carries a life sentence in federal prison for just one incident.

They really have one horrendous case against these two men. I'm so glad. I wonder if the states will prosecute them after the federal govt gets thru prosecuting them? I think Gagnon was trying to save his own hide by confessing to raping JUVENILE 1 in the affidavit. He'll no doubt be a witness against Jacques at trial.

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/...guide_porn.html

It is irrelevant that the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state might be lower than 18.

Yes, and I do not mean this in a mean way, but at this point AR and her boyfriend are both juvenile delinquents for that very reason.
Forgot to add that it is because of 'consensual sex'.

 

[SuziQ]

IMO, the reason Brooke was killed is because there was no way to let her live and talk after what MJ planned to do to her.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Exactly! I had brought up the idea of them making a 'snuff' film at another place that I do not and cannot go to now!
The three PERVERTS were going for the ultimate, IMO!

I don't know where all the posts I made on the subject are buried here, but I did raise this as a distinct possibility. I don't think it was by accident that RG mentioned the Russian child *advertiser censored* rings. With the equipment he ordered and the careful planning which went into the obvious deviant sexual fantasies of MJ's, I think it is plausible. In the 1985 sexual assault and kidnapping conviction, he put a knife to her neck after torturing her for hours. He supposedly drew blood before letting her go. I think this was part of his sick fantasy...to finish what he started. Like you said, the ultimate.

 

[cheko1]

My personal opinion is that Gagnon had any number of removable hard drives. He kept some in the safe that he asked Grosenheider to dump at a different apt. complex, but could easily have kept a flash drive or two on him at all times for a quick 'fix'. Euww.

I think Gagnon may of put some removable hard drives / flash drives or CD's into a locker / such as at a bus depot or at the malls. Left a key for someone & had them pick them up for him. This dude is so smarmy hard telling what lengths he went to.

 

[ShinaLite]

I keep thinking about the affidavit and how it was mentioned Brooke was a "problem". Savanna was called a nasty name. Did something happen between Brooke or Savanna & AR at school? MJ in his twisted mind, thought he could use that to control AR even more then he already was?

I am sure we have not seen nearly the whole lot of emails LE has recovered...
From the ones we have seen AR mentions wanting to see Brooke suffer...I am feeling MJ laid a big one her about how Brooke was a huge threat..I dont think AR was in it for the "fun" of it...But had to believe Brooke somehow could destroy her life or the life of her mom or siblings...Who knows the stories he told her...Thus far we can see he told her some wild tales that she seemed to buy them hook, line, and sinker..he mentions something about "you know why we have to do this"
Maybe Brooke was strong against advances from MJ. Maybe he felt he couldnt manipulate her in the way he could AR and this set him off...idk...

moi

 

[eris]

Everyone has been really busy today! Wow! Great job as always, WSers!

Welcome to the new members here! :wave: I have a lot of catching up to do this evening or I would properly welcome you.

My head is spinning with all the new information. The idea that Rauel could be RG had crossed my mind before, but the Kevin and Raker are quite interesting theories. It is possible, but you would think by now that they would be in custody because LE would have been able to trace some correspondence to MJ and to AR from their accounts.

The house in S. Royalton is curious, too. I had not stopped to think about where the act had taken place between AR, MJ, and RG. I looked it up before and it seemed so close to MJ's house tho. I guess I dismissed it then. I think we do need to figure this out.

Maybe one of our computer savy techies could answer this for me: If they were sending out live shots from a webcam...how would the FBI be able to verify it? Can they verify it? Can they tell where the live shots were received? Can you "record" or otherwise keep a live session via webcam? I would like to know more about this aspect of it. I wouldn't put it past them to have done many things with a live cam with AR or others (including as someone mentioned about the hidden cameras in the bathrooms or showers etc.).

While the FBI and LE have mentioned they don't believe the child sex ring is larger, it is obvious the child *advertiser censored* ring could very well be. We have one man alone running to 3 states in 2 days to cover their @sses. I don't believe he did this for the child *advertiser censored* he downloaded on his computers. It had to be something much more, imo.

There are secutiry cams that are placed in some convenience store that is feeding live Via the internet. I have some clients at work who ordered a T1 1.5mb/1.5mb download/upload data to connect to these camera. All my client needs to do at home is to install a software and can see what's going on on his convenience store anytime. My client can also record the live feed but he doesnt want to record all of them as it will eat his harddrive.

FBI will have a hard time verifying it not unless they recorded some of the live sessions and it is on the hard drive IMO.

This is an example of a software to do live webcast

http://www.webcamsoft.com/en/ezcast.html

 

[LaLaw2000]

On the night Brooke was reported missing, Jacques called RG's cell at least six times, according to one of the affidavits. Four calls were between 9:30 -11pm, which is also the time period in which the VT state police detectives came to his home.

Jacques called Gagnon's cell again at 12:40ish and spoke to him for 23 minutes. One minute later he called the detective for an "update", and immediately thereafter made another 20+min. call to Gagnon's cell.

Gagnon flew to Alabama the following day and (according to Fox News) "acknowledged trying to access the account again from a public computer in the Cullman library "on or about" June 26, the next day. "

I'm guessing his vacant house no longer had web access, or he'd have done it there.

Maybe he figured his *advertiser censored* collection back in TX would be safe for the time being, but wanted to clean out anything incriminating in the Alabama house in case the cops went there looking for Brooke.

Yes, but didn't the neighbor see him carrying the computers INTO the house?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Eris! Would this be easily traced by LE back to their home computers or wherever they are viewing from?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, but didn't the neighbor see him carrying the computers INTO the house?

Yes...he was carrying them in the house. Sorry! Read that wrong.

An unnamed relative of Barksdale, who lives near the residence, said they recently observed Gagnon entering the residence with computers, the document states.

http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_189231932.html

However, it doesn't say this happened exactly on June 26th...only "recently". So if it was on June 26th and he flew in...where did he get the computers?

 

[LaLaw2000]

I don't know where all the posts I made on the subject are buried here, but I did raise this as a distinct possibility. I don't think it was by accident that RG mentioned the Russian child *advertiser censored* rings. With the equipment he ordered and the careful planning which went into the obvious deviant sexual fantasies of MJ's, I think it is plausible. In the 1985 sexual assault and kidnapping conviction, he put a knife to her neck after torturing her for hours. He supposedly drew blood before letting her go. I think this was part of his sick fantasy...to finish what he started. Like you said, the ultimate.

I know - I read here almost daily for a long time before I could join - I begged!
That is what I had written 'over there' also - the afternoon the affidavit came out listing that awful, unspeakable mess.

That type of film is so rare that it would bring them a tremendous amount of money outside of this country.

Sick, sick, sick.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Yes...he was carrying them in the house. Sorry! Read that wrong.

An unnamed relative of Barksdale, who lives near the residence, said they recently observed Gagnon entering the residence with computers, the document states.

http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_189231932.html

However, it doesn't say this happened exactly on June 26th...only "recently". So if it was on June 26th and he flew in...where did he get the computers?

Well, Gagnon had 7 possible listings in the White Pages online. I do think more people are involved here.