CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #2

[cady]

will be on HLN

 

[Orville Butch]

That too should be investigated. The police completely screwed up.

What else is new? This girl could saved her family from a lifetime of torture. Have you ever seen the early Cops episode where an officer tears a baby out of her mother's arms because the house is filthy. She brings to CPS and it's even worse. Sick babies crying everywhere, and it's freezing in the place and they don't even have a blanket for the baby. The officer leaves crying realized she just stole a baby from it's weeping mother's arm to go put the baby in some cold dark place where it's alone and has no love. She ****ed up. It's what cops do.

 

[thesensitivechild]

Great post!

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Agreed!


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[prima.facie]

I am catching up on posts still (at #375) but am watching the presser (little bit late).

I have been HERE for years. I have never been so emotionally, mentally and physically upset over a case like I am over this. And there are some seriously horrifying cases here at WS, as everyone knows. Maybe, it is because I can relate to some of this, although not at the level I am learning from the presser. I grew up in a very abusive and highly religious home. Just reading and listening to this presser is bringing back all kinds of things I actively push down and tuck away. Talk about triggers. I am not even sure I should be paying attention to this case (I am sure the few people in my life who know about my childhood would advise me not to), as I am highly sensitive to things like this. I tend to have panic attacks over another child who may get spanked, for example.

Obviously, I have not dealt with the crap I went through on a professional level. I cant even talk about it because that means im having to relive it all and I am not at a place I can handle that. But I seem to be forcing myself to read and watch this case as a way of trying to process my own hell I grew up in. Maybe? I think the pain I feel with this case is not really about me but more about my heart dying for these kids knowing the pain they have been living and will probably live with forever.

The youngest little boy (the ring barer) in the Vegas video, kills me. He looks like one of my brothers, when we were kids. And I witnessed him being abused. Seeing that little boy, I see my brother. That pains me more than the abuse I went through. My mother was the main abuser with my father not ever stepping in to help or stop it. He has his own violent issues though. I hated my mother from very very young age and never felt love for her nor from her. She was never a mother to me. I have felt actual hate for her most of my life. I cut off any legit contact with my parents so many years ago, even though they try and make contact now and then. My teenage daughter really doesnt know them. She doesnt really care to either.

Today I found out she has advanced neck cancer and is suffering from alzheimer's that the young age of 65 and diagnosis is very bad. My mind is a total clusterF today on how I am suppose to feel. I am not sure why I am here reading all of this.

I read Iona's story and it touched me on a deep level. Bless you (if you see this). Not sure why I am sharing this. Needed to get it out to strangers I guess as I dont really share this kind of stuff with anyone. Just too deep and painful.

Sorry for making something about ME on this horrifying case. Thanks for listening. Back to just reading.

 

[alyssa5597]

Before the facebook page was deleted, there was a comment I saw and others mentioned here -- one from sometime in 2011-2013 if I remember correctly of Louise saying they would have a new little one in 9 months. It has been really bothering me ever since. Where is that baby??? And announcing THAT early along seems strange to me. Any thoughts on this?

 

[Jasper52]

Today's presser.

[video=youtube;409yDlIDzFY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=409yDlIDzFY[/video]

 

[Rocco]

HLN reporting they have a camera in the courtroom for the arraignment but can't live stream so will air it later.

 

[LietKynes]

There are many articles on hoarding . Interesting.

There is no way that those parents did not grow up in some kind of severely weird situation.

https://www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/hoarding-truth-lies-beneath-mess.htm

SABBM

That ^^^^

Those children should NOT be released to any relatives. No relatives at all. Imo.
Pretty easy for them to say "Well, we're not like that." Ok, fine then. Want to allow the authorities into your home ? If the answer is "no"; why not ?
And don't give some religious BS reason.
:moo:

 

[Jasper52]

As per HLN, the arraignment will not be "live". They do have a camera there so hopefully we'll see something.

 

[watergirl62]

HLN reporting they have a camera in the courtroom for the arraignment but can't live stream so will air it later.

Anddddd WAT live stream off air.

 

[Boopsquared]

I don't think it's something that happened in the past year. You don't age to 29 and look 11 unless you've been abused and starved for 20 years. It's clear this has been going on for atleast 20 years, not something in the past year. The girl even escaped in Texas and asked for help but the police just brought her back home lol.

But why wait to escape until now?


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[alyssa5597]

SABBM

That ^^^^

Those children should NOT be released to any relatives. No relatives at all. Imo.
Pretty easy for them to say "Well, we're not like that." Ok, fine then. Want to allow the authorities into your home ? If the answer is "no"; why not ?
And don't give some religious BS reason.
:moo:

Things won't be as easy as everyone is expecting for the extended family to get custody of the kids. As someone who grew up in the foster care system, it still isn't simple for family members to take in kids without some serious investigation by social services. In this case scenario, they would definitely have to become certified foster parents at the very least, which is a pretty invasive process. Not that bad foster parents don't slip through the cracks, but at the very least, home studies, interviews, training, etc. would come well before they were able to take custody of these kids.

 

[LietKynes]

Before the facebook page was deleted, there was a comment I saw and others mentioned here -- one from sometime in 2011-2013 if I remember correctly of Louise saying they would have a new little one in 9 months. It has been really bothering me ever since. Where is that baby??? And announcing THAT early along seems strange to me. Any thoughts on this?

RSBM

I saw that comment. Sorry cannot locate it.
It's possible "family" are busy little bees... "scrubbing" the FB accounts.

Soooo... were they (monster parents) planning to 'do the deed' in a few ?? Like, w.t.f. ? Seriously messed up.

Also speculation here : Did they have relations in front of the children ?
Horrible to think about... but at this point, very little would surprise me.
:moo:

 

[enelram]

SABBM

That ^^^^

Those children should NOT be released to any relatives. No relatives at all. Imo.
Pretty easy for them to say "Well, we're not like that." Ok, fine then. Want to allow the authorities into your home ? If the answer is "no"; why not ?
And don't give some religious BS reason.
:moo:

I totally agree with you BUT many times I've heard CPS say We Always try first to place children with family. Sometimes the expense of caring for neglected children is so great that the CPS or county can not afford to extend their care. They have a budget to adhere to and eventually must get the children off their "feed bill".
So sometimes these kids get place with family members even if they're not perfect.

 

[strawberry]

HLN reporting they have a camera in the courtroom for the arraignment but can't live stream so will air it later.

Thank you! I hope they air the whole thing. If not, Court Chatter or Wild About Trial may because Wild tweeted about it

 

[alyssa5597]

But why wait to escape until now?


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DA shed some light on this in the presser. Siblings had been planning for at least two years an escape. With the timeline of their move and the DA stating that the abuse intensified after the move to California, I am thinking it was simply a lucky chance she had to escape after two years of planning. I think she just saw the opportunity to finally enact their plans and took it, IMO.

 

[Rocco]

Things won't be as easy as everyone is expecting for the extended family to get custody of the kids. As someone who grew up in the foster care system, it still isn't simple for family members to take in kids without some serious investigation by social services. In this case scenario, they would definitely have to become certified foster parents at the very least, which is a pretty invasive process. Not that bad foster parents don't slip through the cracks, but at the very least, home studies, interviews, training, etc. would come well before they were able to take custody of these kids.

I, for one, am NOT expecting extended family members to get custody of the any of the children. The only extended family member who I have heard who has made any sense is the aunt, who said on HLN that she hopes her niece is prosecuted to the full extent of the law. No excuses.

 

[strawberry]

Someone mentioned that the kids appeared not to be able to snap their fingers in the Elvis vid. I wonder if that's partly from the neuropathy

 

[alyssa5597]

I totally agree with you BUT many times I've heard CPS say We Always try first to place children with family. Sometimes the expense of caring for neglected children is so great that the CPS or county can not afford to extend their care. They have a budget to adhere to and eventually must get the children off their "feed bill".
So sometimes these kids get place with family members even if they're not perfect.

I agree with you for most case scenarios across the country, this is unfortunately what happens. However, with a case as public and horrific and media-attracting as this, I have a feeling authorities and social services will be very, very careful where the victims end up, being so much in the public eye and all.

 

[Inthedetails]

DA shed some light on this in the presser. Siblings had been planning for at least two years an escape. With the timeline of their move and the DA stating that the abuse intensified after the move to California, I am thinking it was simply a lucky chance she had to escape after two years of planning. I think she just saw the opportunity to finally enact their plans and took it, IMO.

Maybe they themselves have been chained up until the night they escaped?? We don't know yet. I do hope their escape story will be told.

jmo