CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #3

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ninij9 said:
Really good wine ? Lucky, I'm drinking a rather cheap bottle of Cavet Riesling because someone brought it for Thanksgiving. Didn't know I was going to need to wash my brain tonight. Making do! [emoji6]

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Hot Spiced Apple Cider with 2 shots of Vodka here. 3rd one :drink: :thud:
 
Safeguard said:
Sorry for your experiences in MIL land, but I am a MIL/grandparent and I do not hover, eve drop, or otherwise interject myself in my adult child's family. My involvement was restricted to games of Go Fish, Old maid, forts made out of living room furniture... perhaps a smidgen of tales about when their parents were little... and many wonderful adventures we created. My adult children could have been creating a nuclear power plant in the attic, (which they inhabited for a time), and we would have been none the wiser.
Just saying...
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That's the kind of MIL I plan to be (hopefully), but I wasn't do lucky. My MIL was always up in our ish.

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steelman said:
Being from Pakistan......there's an unlimited usage for that while preparing meals............

Most of us buy it from the grocery store pre-packaged.......and already dead.
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Steelman, You're funny.

I have a feeling, tho, that some of the humor on here will be deleted. We need a good laugh when things are bad.
 
Momoffourboys said:
I really believe he was easy prey and she groomed him. Her life in Pakistan and SA and connections to certain Mosques and Imams lead me to believe that she was already radicalized when he met her and brought her here to live..."the American Dream" (barf!)
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I believe it. I very wise person (fictitious character) once said "The man may be the head of the household, but the Woman is the neck, and the neck turns the head in any direction she wants".
The truest truth ever, Amen!

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bluesneakers said:
It's not that uncommon. There's even a show on TLC about it - "90 Day Fiance."



http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/about/
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oh my god TLC they are "teaching "
folks how to get a wife in 90 days

I can get a lesson tips for buying a car, dishwasher

but wife ----wowey

a) check under the sink for bomb maing materials
b) determine if old copies of Inspire magazine are anywhere
c)glance at mail - if she claims to be living alone and her mail is addressed to someone at a different address - depart quickly
d)carefully check her closet for suicide vests (again any located depart quickly)
e) look under the bed, if you see a pistol, and your really like her it might be ok to stay a bit longer - however if you notice machine guns again make a gentle and soft exit -
f) the old adage , a women scorned, has totally a different "feel ", if you will, in this day and age
 
Momoffourboys said:
Steelman, you are killing it tonight! :drumroll:

My mom just left with her new boyfriend....hence my drinking!
Nice guy. I guess. Terrible aim. Peed all over my bathroom floor. LOL!!
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If I disappear all of a sudden, it won't be due to a terrorist attack. It's gonna be due to Momma getting home with a 2 hour rant about how her dad should have never married this b%^ch and how that side of the family disgusts her.

At that point, I'll remind her what kind of weapons and firearms she has available at her disposal, which will result in her rolling her eyes and telling me I'm an idiot and that everything can't be handled with brute force. I'll act like I have no idea what she means, which will inflame her even further................You know, now that I type this.......living around me probably isn't all that easy. Hmmmmm
 
CARIIS said:
oh my god TLC they are "teaching "
folks how to get a wife in 90 days

I can get a lesson tips for buying a car, dishwasher

but wife ----wowey

a) check under the sink for bomb maing materials
b) determine if old copies of Inspire magazine are anywhere
c)glance at mail - if she claims to be living alone and her mail is addressed to someone at a different address - depart quickly
d)carefully check her closet for suicide vests (again any located depart quickly)
e) look under the bed, if you see a pistol, and your really like her it might be ok to stay a bit longer - however if you notice machine guns again make a gentle and soft exit -
f) the old adage , a women scorned, has totally a different "feel ", if you will, in this day and age
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And don't forget to kick the tires and have a look under the hood, uh I mean Burhka..

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Momoffourboys said:
Steelman, you are killing it tonight! :drumroll:

My mom just left with her new boyfriend....hence my drinking!
Nice guy. I guess. Terrible aim. Peed all over my bathroom floor. LOL!!
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man this stuff is freaky. Thought heard what was backfire 9 probalby is) this is the 6th one about 40 seconds apart -

I have heard a lot of real guns on the news this last month

if I start to hear a lot of sirens ..............
 
steelman said:
It's nice being on here late tonight. My insane old lady is over at her sisters house discussing "family stuff". It appears that a certain elderly lady is about to die, and her family is beginning to act like a bunch of greedy a$$*&les.
Where the conflict comes in, is that this elderly lady is married to her dad, but she's not her bio Mom.

I never get invited to family squabbles because I'm not even-tempered enough to deal with any of them, and/or politically correct. I always offer up the solution that we just kick the a%% of the person causing the problems, and be done with it. That works out well in bar fights or on jobsites, but it doesn't seem to help things in family fights. So---Steelman stays home until and if we need muscle and brawn.......then we'll call ya'.

So here I sit....sipping on a beer......reading and commenting about terrorists...........while hoping at the same time the little lady doesn't walk in brandishing a hatchet.....or sword.....or a suicide vest....or .223 ammo with stripper clips. And even if she did that, I'd just tell her one of the chihuahuas was sick, and she'd drop the weapons and go into "Mom" mode. Life is good.
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Pahahaha sorry but I had to chuckle. Even if it's almost 3 a.m here and I'm in bed but brain to active to switch off watching Law & Order SVU..... where's Benson in r l when ya want her.... she'd eat em up n spit em out.then wipe her boots on em after. .... wine?? Wine?? Who said wine??? Beer???? Where??? All I've got is some O J and morphine (all legal) but it ain't working 😨😱😟
 
ISIS is a different animal really. I'm actually reading the book "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror" http://www.amazon.com/ISIS-Inside-Terror-Michael-Weiss/dp/1941393578 now and I previously read some more scholarly type articles from various think tank types. I did this because I just assumed they were basically the same as Bin Laden. And they obviously have similarities but ISIS has much grander plans.

Bin Laden wanted the west out of the Arab/Muslim world and terror was a means to scare us and thus make us force our government to stop foraying into affairs over there by scaring us here. Simple idea really. He did dream of the caliphate and restoration of Islam etc but was not trying to bring that about and did not think it was happening anytime soon. And he did not try to attain nor did his aims require the taking of actual territory or establishment of a state.

But ISIS has MUCH grander plans. They share certain similarities with various Christian and other "end of the world" "apocalypse" focused sects who WANT to bring about apocalyptic events. They have established the Caliphate ISIS, the state, in order to bring about the end times and the victory over Rome. And, like Christians, they are awaiting the return of JESUS (I'll provide the quote below).

The first explanatory article about ISIS I read was this one,
What ISIS Really Wants

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/. I think it's a really good primer.

What I find essentially more frightening in many ways is that the end times Caliphate is very much at the heart of Islam. And people trying to say ISIS is "un Islamic" are not really correct:

Many mainstream Muslim organizations have gone so far as to say the Islamic State is, in fact, un-Islamic. It is, of course, reassuring to know that the vast majority of Muslims have zero interest in replacing Hollywood movies with public executions as evening entertainment. But Muslims who call the Islamic State un-Islamic are typically, as the Princeton scholar Bernard Haykel, the leading expert on the group’s theology, told me, “embarrassed and politically correct, with a cotton-candy view of their own religion” that neglects “what their religion has historically and legally required.” Many denials of the Islamic State’s religious nature, he said, are rooted in an “interfaith-Christian-nonsense tradition.”
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So, ultimately the Caliphate may hold much more interest for a larger array of Muslims than Bin Laden's cave based terror ever did. And, once again, we, the US have wittingly or unwittingly supported the expansion of this philosophy. ISIS is just a small step beyond Wahhabi's which has been funded, promoted, supported and spread by our closest ME ally Saudi Arabia. The substantive distinction noted in the article-Wahhabi violence was and is not as wanton.

The articles author interviewed an Islamic cleric who has been trying to join ISIS. He's stuck in Australia and emigrating to ISIS is illegal. He personally hates beheadings and actually speaks against suicide bombing but still supports ISIS. They also interviewed three supporters in the UK. One is Anjem Choudary who I know as a loathsome blowhard who often appears on Fox and other stations to defend the indefensible until they cut his mike. But he offers a good explanation of what is going on.

Before the caliphate, “maybe 85 percent of the Sharia was absent from our lives,” Choudary told me. “These laws are in abeyance until we have khilafa”—a caliphate—“and now we have one.” Without a caliphate, for example, individual vigilantes are not obliged to amputate the hands of thieves they catch in the act. But create a caliphate, and this law, along with a huge body of other jurisprudence, suddenly awakens. In theory, all Muslims are obliged to immigrate to the territory where the caliph is applying these laws.... the caliph commands obedience—and those who persist in supporting non-Muslim governments, after being duly warned and educated about their sin, are considered apostates.
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The territory ISIS concentrates on is essential to the fulfillment of the "prophecy"

Now that it has taken Dabiq, the Islamic State awaits the arrival of an enemy army there, whose defeat will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse. Western media frequently miss references to Dabiq in the Islamic State’s videos, and focus instead on lurid scenes of beheading. ..The Prophetic narration that foretells the Dabiq battle refers to the enemy as Rome. Who “Rome” is, now that the pope has no army, remains a matter of debate. But Cerantonio makes a case that Rome meant the Eastern Roman empire, which had its capital in what is now Istanbul. We should think of Rome as the Republic of Turkey—the same republic that ended the last self-identified caliphate, 90 years ago. Other Islamic State sources suggest that Rome might mean any infidel army, and the Americans will do nicely....After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul...An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
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As I noted above, they are waiting for someone familiar to the west, Jesus:

An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
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OK, I'll shut up now. But I was truly AMAZED when I looked into what this was all really about...
 
I find our society so dreadfully sad. The world society. What drives people to blow themselves up. Something is very very wrong.
 
Momoffourboys said:
Steelman, you are killing it tonight! :drumroll:

My mom just left with her new boyfriend....hence my drinking!
Nice guy. I guess. Terrible aim. Peed all over my bathroom floor. LOL!!
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mom you may have just picked up another boy!!
 
steelman said:
If I disappear all of a sudden, it won't be due to a terrorist attack. It's gonna be due to Momma getting home with a 2 hour rant about how her dad should have never married this b%^ch and how that side of the family disgusts her.

At that point, I'll remind her what kind of weapons and firearms she has available at her disposal, which will result in her rolling her eyes and telling me I'm an idiot and that everything can't be handled with brute force. I'll act like I have no idea what she means, which will inflame her even further................You know, now that I type this.......living around me probably isn't all that easy. Hmmmmm
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Your edit message cracks me up.
 
How did this women pass our intensive background check for immigrating into our country???
 
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