Hope32
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Don't think it's a guard dog, but it also appears there is smaller fencing around as well.Is that guard dog chained up? Or not really a guard dog?
Don't think it's a guard dog, but it also appears there is smaller fencing around as well.Is that guard dog chained up? Or not really a guard dog?
In an interview the cousin said the suspect was outside the store collecting garbage, and when they went inside they were going to give him more recyclables to take with him. They offered him juice to make him whole and shortly after that, were abducted.
Maybe he saw the security footage. He also said he spoke to another family member, I think the wife of the baby's uncle that was taken? Maybe she watched the video or she was at the store. That's about all they know since he said LE hasn't shared any information with them.Not doubting the cousin, but how does he know that?
I thought it looked like the dog was chained/tied.My thoughts all MOO:
1. the direct glance at the camera by one of the men/family upon walking into the business first thing in the morning makes me go hmmmm
2. Why isn't the dog moving around in the back of the business trailer? Is it tied? Or does the dog know the perp as he is wagging its tail?
3. Perp doesn't even flinch when he opens the back door and walks out and sees the dog, as if he knows it won't do anything.
4. Woman is not restrained when she leaves.
Most importantly, truck leaves at 9:13 and back at 9:19. The men were taken somewhere 6 minutes away.
That makes sense. In their faith it is customary to nourish people in need. That's probably why he said they gave him juice to "make him whole." ImoThat was the cousin's specuation. He would have no way to know those specific details. He said maybe something like that happened. When I have a chance I'll find the exact quote.
She may have been restrained while he was gone with the men. I believe she's unrestrained while being taken to the vehicle so that she could hold the baby. I'm sure he still had a gun on her.This is crazy. Why the two trips taking first the men then the unrestrained mom and baby. Did mom call 911 in the time she was left alone with baby?
I'm sure the mother wasn't going to do anything that would put her baby at risk. As a mother myself I can understand that.From the video clips shown in the presser, it looked like the perp took the man and came back for the woman and baby, and she was not zip tied ?
So then I thought, he must have disabled the land lines (if they had that, some places do not due to cell phone coverage), or took their phones so she couldn't call for help ?
What about her running out of the building and flagging down a passing car ?
It was infuriating to see the passing (oblivious) traffic.
But then-- what if the perp said : "I'll hurt your husband and brother-in-law if you do anything."
In which case I suspect many of us would do nothing that would risk our loved ones being hurt !
Horrid.
I'd assume they're pinging their phones and have been from the time of the abductions.
M00.
They probably thought he was a customer. In Eliza Fletcher's case, the entire abduction was caught on camera as well. Criminals can be incredibly stupid sometimes. ImoThe suspect looked at the camera when he was entering the business so he did know that there were cameras still he showed his gun and openly captivated the family. How is this possible? The family were expecting him that's for sure because jagdeep went out to let him in.
Can't get my mind around this.
hope they're safe
My thoughts all MOO:
1. the direct glance at the camera by one of the men/family upon walking into the business first thing in the morning makes me go hmmmm
I'm not a mother, but babies always come first.I'm sure the mother wasn't going to do anything that would put her baby at risk. As a mother myself I can understand that.
If the woman was restrained (tied up) when he left the first time, how could she have called LE? LE hasn't said she was tied up but IMO that is the only way he would have felt safe leaving her behind.Bizarre. What would be the motive to come back after he had the men? Presumably if he had wanted the bank card and PIN he had it by then. The woman could have called the police by then, escaped, someone else might have shown up etc...