CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #4

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LE can say what they need to in order to get the all-important job of finding this woman done. Reassuring the family or the public is not the main job here. So there are a number of good reasons why they may say what they say at a given point in time. Remember that they saw fit to administer a polygraph (per RT) and that they also they saw fit to tell him there were signs of deception (again per RT). All of this for what it's worth.
Yes. For what’s its worth. I’m sure most of us here that are interested in crime know that polygraphs are worth nothing in regards to finding out if someone is deceptive, but are often used to pressure someone to give more information, especially by telling them their test was deceptive or inconclusive to see if they’ll crack.

In this case they may have had all the evidence she was there, but were trying early on to see if he had done something to her out there (ie. a fight occurred and he killed her and hid her body somewhere).

They have to consider all possibilities.

I’m struggling with the idea that many here are claiming that the police will claim ‘no foul play’ when they really believe there is. This report came several days into the investigation. I question them using it as a tactic because of the many many times I’ve seen reports where the police do the opposite and say they suspect foul play. It would seem in some cases that the pressure of being under suspicion would cause someone to crack and mess up more than relaxing and thinking they’re off the hook. I don’t know the exact psychology and it would need to be used judiciously and directed based on the individual.

I’m not an expert on how the police use their statements, or whether they lie to the public about this however. I did ask if someone from LE could clarify if they would actually straight up lie to the public about such a serious matter if they had evidence or suspicions otherwise.
 
RT's Interviews

At the 1:13 mark - 1st interview
"My feeling is that she was picked up. Because she had to cross the highway. She was wearing a bikini and she had a beer in her hand."


At the 1:12 mark - 2nd interview
"I feel that, uh, somebody picked her up, uh, because she was wearing a bikini, she had a beer in her hand, and she was ahead of me and she had to cross that road."

With a beer in hand she's dehydrating as well.
 
Can you come over to my house and catch mine? They keep messing with my kitties.
Possum will not hurt cats and are critical to keeping ticks from over infesting. Possum are so ugly they are cute, and should be welcomed.

Now back to this case. Sorry I couldn’t elaborate earlier; was heading out the door. The aerial map stunned me. It’s sooooo remote where they are. I have heard on more than one occasion that the desert is a “dumping grounds”. It’s now easy to understand that after looking at the map.

Whether BT got lost or injured or met with someone who wished her harm, one thing is clear; it will take a miracle to find her out there.
That’s why my stomach dropped.
: (

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
Can you come over to my house and catch mine? They keep messing with my kitties.
This was just a little one and we will move it to the woods with a stream. My chihuahuas are endangered from them too, but they don't seem to realize it. They are much smaller than this possum. The racoons are worse, but we always do NoKill cause we love em all. :)
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Chi
 
Looking at a map of military instalations in the Mojave, I was surprised at how many there are. Fort Irwin would be the largest I think, but that is near Barstow. Twenty nine palms, Skunk works, China lake to name a few.
With all those restricted areas you would think there would be much satellite surveillance, aerial photo runs etc.
Planes and helicopters must be coming and going regularly.
Not saying they would be over the exact spot on the exact day. I realize you just can't call up DOD and ask for the info. Just wondering.

I especially wonder what China Lake might have. Since they were severely damaged by the Ridgecrest earthquakes, they might have additional satellite images ongoing in order to make repairs. MOO
 
Possum will not hurt cats and are critical to keeping ticks from over infesting. Possum are so ugly they are cute, and should be welcomed.

Now back to this case. Sorry I couldn’t elaborate earlier; was heading out the door. The aerial map stunned me. It’s sooooo remote where they are. I have heard on more than one occasion that the desert is a “dumping grounds”. It’s now easy to understand that after looking at the map.

Whether BT got lost or injured or met with someone who wished her harm, one thing is clear; it will take a miracle to find her out there.
That’s why my stomach dropped.
: (

Amateur opinion and speculation
Emph. mine

That's sad.
Have LE looked at the areas they drove around in ? Was it other places besides the spot where he was taking photos ?
Does their "5th Wheel" have onboard GPS tracking info ?
 
I have no idea what has happened to BT and I am making no assumptions.
As far as WS, as long as TOS is followed, and victims are not blamed, this is an excellent forum for working together.

If anyone reading this has any knowledge about where Barbara may be, do the right thing and make the call.

Are these still correct?

[Anyone with information is urged to call the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department's Colorado River Station at 760-326-9200 or Sheriff's Dispatch at 760-956-5001.]
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Chi
Probably already answered, but I'm several pages behind and this is important. Most recent contact numbers:

July 22nd - The investigation continues into the whereabouts of missing person Barbara Thomas from SBSD - Colorado River Sheriffs Department : Nixle
The investigation is ongoing and anyone with information is asked to contact Detective Nicholas Clark, Specialized Investigations Division (909) 387-3589. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to contact the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78-CRIME (27463) or www.wetip.com.
 
Probably already answered, but I'm several pages behind and this is important. Most recent contact numbers:

July 22nd - The investigation continues into the whereabouts of missing person Barbara Thomas from SBSD - Colorado River Sheriffs Department : Nixle
The investigation is ongoing and anyone with information is asked to contact Detective Nicholas Clark, Specialized Investigations Division (909) 387-3589. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to contact the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78-CRIME (27463) or www.wetip.com.
Thank you, updating.
C
 
Live trap baited with the smelliest tuna you can find in a can- my hubs and I relocated many a 'possum that way.

See, my concern is that the possums, raccoons, and skunks keep messing with the cats, but I worry if I put out traps that I'll end up inadvertently capturing kitties.

Anyhow, does anyone think there's going to be any sort of resolution for this case anytime soon? Each day I lean more and more towards "no". MOO.
 
The aerial map stunned me. It’s sooooo remote where they are. I have heard on more than one occasion that the desert is a “dumping grounds”. It’s now easy to understand that after looking at the map.
BBM

As often happens here, Rosefromangels, you are seriously correct.

How much of a "dumping ground" IS the Desert you ask?
So much so, ...that it is almost a joke.

( Almost. But a very sick joke. Or no joke at all.
Not trying to be flippant. Just realistic.)

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MOO: Sorry if these have been posted before.
 
i am looking at the maps again, the s in the road where i was focusing... what i took to be a parking lot in satellite view is actually more like a large electrical transformer or something. it is not a parking lot at all. i must be looking in the wrong area.
 
i am looking at the maps again, the s in the road where i was focusing... what i took to be a parking lot in satellite view is actually more like a large electrical transformer or something. it is not a parking lot at all. i must be looking in the wrong area.
That's why I thought the most likely thing they were calling a parking lot or parking area seemed like it would be the turnout where they themselves were parked. Hmm...
 
This was just a little one and we will move it to the woods with a stream. My chihuahuas are endangered from them too, but they don't seem to realize it. They are much smaller than this possum. The racoons are worse, but we always do NoKill cause we love em all. :)
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Chi

OT
He is cute :)

I have used those "Have a Heart" type traps before and they do work well to capture and transport away from your home. Just be careful to secure the door during transit. Dont rely on the traps latches only. Its good to put extra wire ties or bungee cords or something to secure the doors better.

I once put the whole trap and a groundhog in back of my truck to transport and the groundhog got out somehow while I was driving. Lets just say he was very upset with me. LOL

Luckily he was in the bed of the truck and I was far enough away into some wooded roads that I was able to pull over and just scoot him out of the truck and he ran off into some woods.

Any animal can be very dangerous when they are cornered in a trap. They get aggressive and I am sure you already know that by now :)
 
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