Found Deceased CA - British actor Julian Sands, 65, missing in Mount Baldy area, San Gabriel Mountains, last seen 13 Jan 2023

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MOUNT BALDY (KABC) -- As search and rescue crews continue to work tirelessly to locate two missing hikers in the San Gabriel Mountains, one of which is British actor Julian Sands, another hiker recently found himself in danger on Mount Baldy.

Tack Sappington went hiking Friday, Jan. 13, the same day Sands went missing, and found himself caught up in a harrowing ordeal - with no equipment to save him.

"I know I'm extremely blessed and fortunate to be alive after that," he said.

More at Hiker shares details of dangerous Mount Baldy trek: 'It was pretty much just death on both sides'
 
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search-and-rescue crews are holding out hope that his mountaineering experience has allowed him to survive below-freezing temperatures and snowy conditions.

Yet,
"It's a serious mountain," Hester said. "Things can happen that are out of your control. If you're doing it in the snow, you might have all the right gear and knowledge and experience but if something breaks loose and starts to slide, you're going with it."

 
It’s sad (and a lil frustrating, IMO) that these things happen in winter to the most experienced and prepared climbers… but also to casual hikers? Ay aye ayyyyye. Bless those in SAR putting their lives on the line in search efforts.

We have these things happen every year, even without the wild storms we are having this year in CA.

Hoping for the best but sadly expecting the worst for the missing folks.
 
I am not a hiker. I am more of a beach walker. Question for you hikers. I have noticed quite a few people missing, killed, or found dead from hiking in various areas. Based on what I am seeing about JS he is an experienced hiker. Do hikers choose to go out alone or do most prefer to go with a partner? I was always taught to never go in the ocean alone. Is that the same rule for hikers?
The conditions did not seem great for his hike but with his experience, could he have felt confident that he could handle the conditions?
This is sad. IMHO this is no looking like as good outcome.
 
I am not a hiker. I am more of a beach walker. Question for you hikers. I have noticed quite a few people missing, killed, or found dead from hiking in various areas. Based on what I am seeing about JS he is an experienced hiker. Do hikers choose to go out alone or do most prefer to go with a partner? I was always taught to never go in the ocean alone. Is that the same rule for hikers?
The conditions did not seem great for his hike but with his experience, could he have felt confident that he could handle the conditions?
This is sad. IMHO this is no looking like as good outcome.
As the sheriff put it, not even mountaineering crampons would help you on this kind of ice. Plus, ground searches are impossible because of avalanche risk. It is not safe for folks to be out there. Period.

I would guess JS thought Baldy was no big deal and didn't take his mountaineering equipment. He might also not have been in the habit of taking the 10 Essentials on a day hike, and he planned this as a dayhike.

Baldy has a high fatality rate and a very high number of SAR (Search and Rescue) callouts. There are many people on the mountain who clearly have no experience (though they might consider themselves experienced); you can tell by how they're dressed, whether they're carrying water, etc.

In general, though, hiking is a low risk activity IF you are equipped for the conditions, hike within your capabilities, know when to turnaround, plan the trip, including with weather forecast, and take the 10 Essentials. The reality is, it's often difficult to find a partner to go along on a hike: people are busy and have schedule conflicts. In a winter setting, solo is especially risky. On a busy trail (like the Long Trail) in 3 seasons, IMO solo is low risk; there are so many other people around.

However, in all of that, you need experience. Just going with a bunch of friends might get you used to walking off pavement. But they are unlikely to give you real experience, since friends tend to think alike. IMO learn from old-timers or by going out with major mountaineering clubs with an established history, like the Mazamas, Sierra Club, Obsidians, GMC. It's not expensive to do this (like not at all, IME; maybe even just shared gas), but you will learn standard protocols, and you will hear stories from people who think differently than you and who've made different decisions in the wilderness than you or your friends might. IMO experience comes from having a palette of decisions, good and bad.

There are strong cautions now (e.g. from BC's government recreation agency) against hiking with people/groups you encounter on FB and other channels. You never know who the leaders are, what qualifications they might have, whether safety precautions are being taken, whether wilderness laws and ethics will be followed, whether the other members of the group are high risk-takers or whether they don't have fitness to walk more than a mile....

There have been some recent catastrophes with people going out with groups from SM. I'll mention just one. A man (Jeffrey Johnson) has been convicted in federal court for organizing groups on FB ($20 per person, per year) and taking them into Buffalo National River (a NPS site) on hikes. Last year, he took on a hike on an unmaintained, extremely dangerous, "unofficial" trail. There was an SAR response for a person in the group (someone fell and broke a bone IIRC). The ranger told JJ NEVER to do that again, take out a group to that area.
The next week, he took out 31 people, same place. One died. JJ doesn't feel any responsibility. He doesn't think he should have had leadership skills or organized the group in any way. He doesn't even count the group members or stop them so everyone can catch up. He didn't know skill level. He took whoever showed up. They were gone all day. There was no sweep to make sure everyone was okay. He had no idea that the man who died had turned back; he didn't even find out about the death until HOURS later when he came upon SAR clustered around the dead man.
Anyway, the feds took him to court for offering a non-approved guiding service, and he has been convicted. Sentencing AFAIK is in March. The guy has 24k members in his group: that's $480k per year he's getting paid. This kind of group is not rare on SM; avoid it! This is not an isolated case.
Go with a traditional hiking/mountaineering club, IMO with a long history; they will teach you a lot, especially how to mitigate risk.

Dressing right and having good quality equipment adds to safety. You can gather it over time. Meanwhile, learn what's appropriate and improvise. E.g. NEVER wear jeans. If you ever go solo, take extra emergency supplies (I always carry a rain jacket, a fleece that I likely won't need, an ACE bandage, a hat...)
 
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It’s sad (and a lil frustrating, IMO) that these things happen in winter to the most experienced and prepared climbers… but also to casual hikers? Ay aye ayyyyye. Bless those in SAR putting their lives on the line in search efforts.

We have these things happen every year, even without the wild storms we are having this year in CA.

Hoping for the best but sadly expecting the worst for the missing folks.
Unfortunately, "experienced" and "prepared" are entirely different things. Very possibly key here.
 
As I stared up at Mt. Baldy today, I thought of our missing hikers.
We are in a high wind warning tonight in the foothills, ending tomorrow evening.
It's starting now.
Just one more weather incident to add to their odds.
 
It is still snowy up on the mountain?
I don’t believe so.
It has been clear and sunny, however I just read the weather for the week and the wind warning is in effect till 2pm today. There is the prediction for wind Tuesday and Thursday as well.
I can’t imagine how windy it can get up there.
There are Mt. Baldy webcams available. I sometimes check them out to watch the snow or to see if it is a sunny day to drive up and have breakfast at Mt. Baldy Lodge.
 
I don’t believe so.
It has been clear and sunny, however I just read the weather for the week and the wind warning is in effect till 2pm today. There is the prediction for wind Tuesday and Thursday as well.
I can’t imagine how windy it can get up there.
There are Mt. Baldy webcams available. I sometimes check them out to watch the snow or to see if it is a sunny day to drive up and have breakfast at Mt. Baldy Lodge.
Thanks for the info!
 
''Jan 19, 2023
A couple considers themselves lucky after they were rescued after caught in the dangerous winter weather on Mt. Baldy.''

'' Jan 19, 2023
Crystal Gonzalez, also known as the "Hiking Queen," plunged 700 feet to her death after climbing Mount Baldy in California. Cellphone footage captured a rescue chopper circling as other hikers tried to help her. Just two days earlier, Gonzalez posted a video climbing the same mountain but she turned back because it was too icy. Last month, two hikers also needed to be rescued from Mount Baldy. Janelle and Joseph Rasich slid 20 feet and had to be rescued with their dogs.''
 
As mentioned in a past post Mt Baldy is dangerous even in ideal conditions that can change in a blink of an eye. I hiked and climbed areas of this mountain in my youth and understood the dangers as well. I also had the challenge of spending a day and night stuck on Mt Rainer in Washington state, held up in a snow shelter as the storm ripped through the area which went from blue skies and sun to blizzard conditions. If the plan was for a day hike I packed for 3 and so on, helmet on head, always. I do hope JS is found alive and has been holding up in a semi safe shelter but knowing Mother Nature doesn't play favorites when it comes to those who decide to challenge her. For us adventurous types who love the outdoors and other activities that challenge us we knowingly or unknowingly sign a contract with what we attempt to challenge. Always read the fine print, the challenge holds no responsibility for anything that may happen to you. Mechanical injury and the elements are the main culprits in this contract you have signed. Prayers to those up there and the one's searching for them as well.
 
Andy Gregory,Graig Graziosi,Emily Atkinson,Peony Hirwani,Louis Chilton
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''A weather warning of strong winds and gusts of up to 70mph has been issued, as the search for missing British actor Julian Sands enters its 10th day.

On Monday 23 January, the National Weather Service reported high winds affecting the Santa Ana mountain region and San Bernandino, close to the San Gabriel mountains where Sands is believed to have gone missing.


An alert warned of possible power outages, travel disruption and a risk of falling trees: “The strongest winds will be along the south-facing slopes and foothill areas, below the Morongo Pass, and through and below the Santa Ana Mountain canyons,” the report said.''
 
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...A secondary search of some of the areas previously searched to locate Sands began on Sunday after a 75-year-old Los Angeles resident, Jin Chung, was reported missing in the same area.

"Chung was last seen at approximately 6:00 a.m. Chung initially carpooled to Mt. Baldy with two others but separated from them when they arrived, with an understanding they would meet back at the vehicle at 2:00 p.m. The other hikers returned safely but Chung has not been seen or heard from," according to the sheriff's department.

 

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