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There is other graffiti on the roof, which suggests that is it a hangout for some people that know how to go up there.
In this picture, graffiti on the tank, the box on the bottom, and the door.
My suicide theory would be that the feelings crept up in her while being away from her normal routine and her friends and family. Going into the water tank I would see more as a hole she slinked into while roaming the roof naked and in a manic state of mind. Or perhaps she perceived herself being chased and she went in there to hide and it turned into a death trap due to hypothermia and no way out.
Ok wow I have this case 100% figured out, through and through! With that being said Im sure in the end ill be 100% wrong but this theory of mine to me seems flawless. Perhaps its flawed but I think it answers a lot of my questions with reasonable answers.
Elisa Lams last moments as I see them.
1: Elisa decides that she will take up an offer to hang out with someone or multiple people on the roof. During that time the party she is with mentions being afraid of elevators or something similar and suggests they take the stairs (this explains why she isnt seen going up)
2: Whilest on the roof it becomes apparent to her either directly through contact be it verbal or physical or through intuition that these people or person shes with are bad news and that she needs to leave. She either makes a daring escape running away, or makes a coy escape ie I need to use the washroom and I dont want anyone to see.
3: SHe makes her way to the 15th or 14th floor (where we see her on video entering the elevator) At this point she feels scared, yet slightly relieved that she escaped. She presses a row of buttons (either due to lack of vision or due to having knowledge of how to flee in an elevator)
4: This whole time she has a sense of relief - but also is met by a great sense of paranoia. What if they catch me trying to leave she thinks. So she peers out of the elevator making sure shes not in danger.
5: As shes looking intently in one direction, the person or persons sneak up on her. This is where she starts acting really weird. IMO they/he is telling her that everything will be ok just come back to the roof and she wont get hurt.
6: Thats when she turns back in to the elevator shocked - Did he/they say that they might harm me? She frantically presses buttons to no avail.
7: In the interest of her safety she abides and cooperates with her attacker/attackers and goes back to the roof.
8: The attackers intent is to rape her. One person or multiple.
9: Elisa allows this to happen. She knows shes vulnerable and doesnt want to get hurt so she complies with the perp/perps and allows him/them to do this.
10: Once they are done (and I admit this isnt the most solid idea but it would work IMO) they force her into a tank. "We dont want you to follow us, get into this tank and we'll leave"
11: Elisa complies and is unable to get out of the tank. She dies in the tank without sign of struggle.
This explains why she would be naked.
Thoughts?
<rsbm>Questions....
1. Do we have any guesses as to her weight and height?
I know I am weird, but sunshine depresses me, lol. I feel my best on gloomy days. But you are most likely correct, overall. Most people find sunshine uplifting.
My suicide theory would be that the feelings crept up in her while being away from her normal routine and her friends and family. Going into the water tank I would see more as a hole she slinked into while roaming the roof naked and in a manic state of mind. Or perhaps she perceived herself being chased and she went in there to hide and it turned into a death trap due to hypothermia and no way out.
Just saying, not pointing anyone out specifically... but I did a search for sex offenders living at 640 South Main Street, Los Angeles and found at least 5 hits. I'm sure the police would be looking at them first. But, just saying... this building has a history of drugs, prostitution and murder. There is no reason to think it would not linger there, in fact it would be naive to think it would not.
Also, the term "booger" (in reference to the graffiti) sometimes also refers to drugs like cocaine (anything taken through the nose).
I've been wondering about the lid to the water tank so I started reviewing aerial videos from the scene. It looks to me like the lid is closed but under some sort of tarp (maybe to preserve evidence?). Around 1:04 it looks like the firefighter briefly lifts the lid up.
Thoughts?
On the close-up pic I posted earlier showing the black scuff marks, the fireman is on the ladder, and on the tank behind him is what appears to be a black garbage type bag. It's very possible it is some type of evidence bag that was used to remove the lid, and i would think yes .. to preserve evidence.
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topvideo/elisa-lam-update-022013_lead_media_image_1.jpg
ETA: Just thought what those marks might be .. maybe forensics scrubbed some evidence off the tank beside the hatch before the extrication started.
Admittedly I haven't read through ALL of the posts for the 2 threads @ EL...yet. Still working on it.
Can you provide a link that says that she was naked when she "went on" the roof?
If it's been posted I apoligize. I plan on reading every single post but if you could provide a link for that statement it would help. Thus far I haven't found it.
I've been wondering about the lid to the water tank so I started reviewing aerial videos from the scene. It looks to me like the lid is closed but under some sort of tarp (maybe to preserve evidence?). Around 1:04 it looks like the firefighter briefly lifts the lid up.
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYkjsE2Qxl8
I think it's a relatively good theory to some extent. I analyzed the video in details too and believe that she goes through various emotions, from casual but cautious, to fearful, to surprised, fearful for a very short moment again, then let her guard down/no longer afraid (or at least hiding it), has a chance to get back in the elevator and leave (hence not threatened to follow), doesn't manage to leave so she sort of gives up thinking she would bring about more trouble if she tried to escape, or thinking that she might be paranoid.
Notice when she goes back in the elevator, seemingly smiling and putting her hands on the walls. It looks to me like a way to say "ugh, no thanks, I'll pass, I'm tired". But then she doesn't manage to get the elevator to move.
This is exactly the emotion she is expressing! wow I couldnt have put it better myself! I really feel like we are getting somewhere now, to me this is making a lot more sense. When she puts her hands up shes thinking "How many times do I have to tell this guy no?" and after not being able to work the elevator she gets back out and starts doing the unexplainable hand motions and the Counting on her fingers. - I cant go back with you because i have to 1: check out 2: catch a bus 3: etc etc
Boom she gives in and they go back to the roof.
On the roof is where something happens. Probably not a premeditated rape but a rape im guessing none the less. Shes forced to climb into the tank (one to give the perp time to escape and 2 to possibly wash off any DNA). Perp takes her clothes to ensure he isnt followed not realizing that poor elisa would never make it out of the tank anyway. (explains the missing clothes)
The question why there isnt any other footage of her is hard to explain. As I said I think she was on the roof before we saw her in the elevator, that im almost sure of because its the only explanation why she would be up there with no prior footage of her.
My guess as well is that police would make mention to the fact that she is seen going up at such and such time (possibly release the footage) and was last seen (in released footage).
This is exactly the emotion she is expressing! wow I couldnt have put it better myself! I really feel like we are getting somewhere now, to me this is making a lot more sense. When she puts her hands up shes thinking "How many times do I have to tell this guy no?" and after not being able to work the elevator she gets back out and starts doing the unexplainable hand motions and the Counting on her fingers. - I cant go back with you because i have to 1: check out 2: catch a bus 3: etc etc
Boom she gives in and they go back to the roof.
On the roof is where something happens. Probably not a premeditated rape but a rape im guessing none the less. Shes forced to climb into the tank (one to give the perp time to escape and 2 to possibly wash off any DNA). Perp takes her clothes to ensure he isnt followed not realizing that poor elisa would never make it out of the tank anyway. (explains the missing clothes)
The question why there isnt any other footage of her is hard to explain. As I said I think she was on the roof before we saw her in the elevator, that im almost sure of because its the only explanation why she would be up there with no prior footage of her.
My guess as well is that police would make mention to the fact that she is seen going up at such and such time (possibly release the footage) and was last seen (in released footage).
So if she was indeed found naked isn't that nearly always a sign of a sexual crime? I suppose she could have removed her clothes and jumped in, but where are the clothes?
This just would be the strangest suicide ever. She is on a roof where she could just jump off but she decides to climb into a water tank? I am just not buying it.
She was either led to the roof or was forced up there (or already dead). I am still sticking to that theory.