Disguiseduser0308
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Its starting to come out he was seeing two providers - they probably have it wrong in all likelihood one was a therapist and the other a psychiatrist.(meds). He did not work. He was 22. Who does one think was paying to try and get their kid help --mom and dad
Often they refuse to take them or don’t take them correctly-(some of that is related to being sick and following directions etc) - you can’t force an adult.
How it usually goes is the psych meds take time to build up to a proper level ( weeks often). So they are complaint in the beginning, but as the levels rise the side effects are horrible.Becasue they are so sick they do not have the insight to know that the side effects are better than not trying to manage their illness so they stop taking them.
It takes a while for the level to drop so they stay somewhat level for a bit after they quit. Then they can go awhile reasonably stable while there neurotransmitters are slowly over time returning to their distressed levels. Then their behaviors and thinking goes back to whatever illness they are suffering with.
Depending on the illness (schizophrenia mostly) they get in trouble, usually LE, then they get hospitalized, overdosed for 2 two days, so they are in a coma, and discharged. . $$$$$$$$$$
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Rinse repeat Rinse repeat Rinse repeat Rinse repeat Rinse repeat
ANd you what know is the really pathetic part of this. if insurance would pay for an appropriate length of stay at the onset, at the end of the day it would be cheaper for the greedy idiots at insurance because they would be able to remain stable for a longer peroid of time after discharge.
The side effects can lesson with time. If they were in the proper setting (hospital, day care whatever) there meds could be monotored they have support to get through the side effects and their insight, in all liklihood (casue they are more stable) is better so even after discharge then they will take them a bit longer, which means the insurance does not have to pay for a readmit
Becasue they are more stable they will come to therapy stabilizing longer.
Think about it . on an annual basis for insurance. one person.The way it is now we'll go 13 admissions - 2 days so we have 26 in-patient days.
If they would pay for them to be in a safe envirnment for two weeks the odds are they will not need to be readmitted as "soon" after discharge.
Its messed up
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The problem I see here is... no one seemed to know howto get ER the help he needed. I don't see mental health being as in dire situation as others. The issue I always seem to be drawn to is how family members don't know how ill someone really is until it's too late.
The help is there. The resources are there. Education is what is lacking. What I believe needed to happen was an ICE (in case of emergency) plan. Tell parents what to watch for. What behaviors could and likely indicate a severe medical emergency. This would require family and friends be a constant in the persons life. It would also require medical personnel to be on their toes and be ready to provide their medical documentation as quickly as possible.
Psychiatrists, therapists, and parents need to work together so people who can be a serious danger to society are afforded the help they need before it's too late. We can't continue to throw meds at people and hope for the best.
JMO & :twocents: