GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #12

[phantomthought]

So why did EC give up the horse and is that in anyway connected to her murder?Did she give in up because she was pregnant,had gotten a job or because some one had convinced her she would be leaving?

 

[Emi]

What time is the hearing tomorrow

 

[Dmacky]

What time is the hearing tomorrow

HEARINGS

PRE-PRELIMINARY HEARING SET FOR 09/16/2014 AT 8:30 IN DEPARTMENT M2.

DEFENDANT ORDERED TO APPEAR ON HEARING DATE.


http://openaccess.sb-court.org/Open...fnbr=4218318&defseq=1&otnmseq=0&dsn=&fmt=auto

 

[stayhomemommy]

I never said she did not work for the tractor supply in CA.I think I was pretty clear that she did in my original post,What I did say was I can understand how IM might have been mistaken on whether she did.

I respectfully disagree. I believe IM absolutely knew. If IM talked to Erin at all (and I believe she did, when Erin was still friends with the Lees, before any affair/s), then IM likely knew the things about her that I posted. People tend to ask where non-locals are from, what brings them here, what they do for a living, etc. I know, because I've moved quite a bit in my life. And that was the point I was trying to make. (That I believe IM knew.) Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

I honestly mean no offense. I respect your opinion, and even agree with many of your posts. I just differ in opinion on this. And of course, as always, it is just my opinion.

 

[stayhomemommy]

So why did EC give up the horse and is that in anyway connected to her murder?Did she give in up because she was pregnant,had gotten a job or because some one had convinced her she would be leaving?

I believe it was said it was because she couldn't take it to the military base. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Thanks!

 

[stayhomemommy]

I can't believe I'm about to take-up for Nichole here. But I know I've been on the wronged side of something before. And it was painful.

So, maybe she really is innocent and had no idea about CL. Maybe she believes with her whole heart CL is innocent. Maybe she pins on Pinterest to get her mind off things and/or to be able to "be heard" since she can't really speak out in any other way. I am sure the attorney has told her not to talk.

I can't stand Pinterest. So it's not something I would do to pass time. But I do enjoy WS and Facebook. I just don't know what I'd do if I were in her situation. I do think I'd want to connect with my friends. And most of my really good and long-term friends live many miles way from me, so Facebook would likely be my first choice.

Of course, if she's not innocent, or if she knows for sure CL isn't, then maybe I would think differently about her activity. I'm not really sure. I'm torn, to be honest. Because I feel like she knows something. But it's possible she doesn't. Maybe CL has convinced her he's been set-up or something. All just musings and MOO

 

[klily444]

I have never seen a case with such intelligent, tactful, helpful and resourceful members on WS, as I do with Erin's case. It is a little disheartening looking at other cases and seeing such petty arguments and rumors flying left and right, with little to no thoughtful posts. Although I joined WS during Erin's case, I was a lurker for several years prior, and I am so glad I was able to get started with such an amazing group of people as you guys. Erin deserved no less, of course.

 

[RSC]

I've actually defended NL several times, and do not necessarily think she played any role (though I won't rule it out, either).
But clearly she is making statements on social media that ARE related to this case (see the integrity posts); to pin "funny" things along side those seems tacky to me. Even if CL were entirely innocent (which would go completely against the arrest by LE), he is still about to start a murder trial that will impact her child's life forever.

ETA: Actually, given that her husband and the father of her child is currently in jail, their lives are already impacted forever. This just seems so strange.

I can't believe I'm about to take-up for Nichole here. But I know I've been on the wronged side of something before. And it was painful.

So, maybe she really is innocent and had no idea about CL. Maybe she believes with her whole heart CL is innocent. Maybe she pins on Pinterest to get her mind off things and/or to be able to "be heard" since she can't really speak out in any other way. I am sure the attorney has told her not to talk.

I can't stand Pinterest. So it's not something I would do to pass time. But I do enjoy WS and Facebook. I just don't know what I'd do if I were in her situation. I do think I'd want to connect with my friends. And most of my really good and long-term friends live many miles way from me, so Facebook would likely be my first choice.

Of course, if she's not innocent, or if she knows for sure CL isn't, then maybe I would think differently about her activity. I'm not really sure. I'm torn, to be honest. Because I feel like she knows something. But it's possible she doesn't. Maybe CL has convinced her he's been set-up or something. All just musings and MOO

 

[Dmacky]

So why did EC give up the horse and is that in anyway connected to her murder?Did she give in up because she was pregnant,had gotten a job or because some one had convinced her she would be leaving?

I believe it was said it was because she couldn't take it to the military base. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Thanks!

Erin gave up the horse because she couldn't bring it on base....And it is a 45 minute drive to the ranch.
According to [modsnip] IM....she says it was because the horse didn't have his shots, so she couldn't bring it on base. BUT according to the Marine corps base, Twentynine Palms Stables, it's because they are closing down.


TWENTYNINE PALMS MARINE CORPS

AIR GROUND COMBAT CENTER STABLES
Facility is Scheduled to be closed down within the year!


http://www.militarystables.com/twinpalms.html

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I've actually defended NL several times, and do not necessarily think she played any role (though I won't rule it out, either).
But clearly she is making statements on social media that ARE related to this case (see the integrity posts); to pin "funny" things along side those seems tacky to me. Even if CL were entirely innocent (which would go completely against the arrest by LE), he is still about to start a murder trial that will impact her child's life forever.

ETA: Actually, given that her husband and the father of her child is currently in jail, their lives are already impacted forever. This just seems so strange.

I agree from looking at NL's Pinterest posts a few times that it seems strange that she continues to maintain her page and a mix of posts -- some that seem to subtly allude to what she's going through with CL and all he's done and how it affects her, juxtaposed against those that are more everyday kind of interests, etc. But I also don't know what I would be doing online for the public and LE to see if my husband was on trial for murder of our neighbor he was having an affair with! I wonder if her Pinterest page is one of the virtual places where, unlike FB which seems to have a more obvious personal ownership of content, she can just throw stuff out there to send messages without the meaning being obvious/being held accountable in the same way that FB posts could be.

I also wonder if she is relieved CL is out of her life (because he has no integrity and has turned out to be a nightmare of a husband) and that is why she seems to be maintaining a business-as-usual attitude (on social media) as he goes to trial. No telling it seems at this point... JMO

 

[eddy]

Well, I hope I don't offend too many of you fine folks, but I guess I am a cynic.
At the very least if my husband had an affair with the neighbor and the neighbor turned up missing I would suspect him. If my husband was gone during the time the neighbor disappeared I would be totally creeped out. If my husband said he went to the same place the missing neighbor told her husband she went on the same day at the same time the hair on the back of my neck would stand up ! I would probably call the cops myself- especially if I had a kid to protect. Then if my husband lied to the cops about how well he knew her ! Give me a break. I don't care what she pins I'm calling BS on that. Let's not be so easily swayed. I understand giving people the benefit of the doubt. Believe me, I have been falsely accused of things in the past. IMO, she had to suspect him at the very least.

Apologies, if that's harsh, but that's MOO

 

[rosesfromangels]

Well, I hope I don't offend too many of you fine folks, but I guess I am a cynic.
At the very least if my husband had an affair with the neighbor and the neighbor turned up missing I would suspect him. If my husband was gone during the time the neighbor disappeared I would be totally creeped out. If my husband said he went to the same place the missing neighbor told her husband she went on the same day at the same time the hair on the back of my neck would stand up ! I would probably call the cops myself- especially if I had a kid to protect. Then if my husband lied to the cops about how well he knew her ! Give me a break. I don't care what she pins I'm calling BS on that. Let's not be so easily swayed. I understand giving people the benefit of the doubt. Believe me, I have been falsely accused of things in the past. IMO, she had to suspect him at the very least.

Apologies, if that's harsh, but that's MOO

Yep. That about sums it up.
IMO, it's not whether she *was* involved in the disappearance and/or cover up, but to what degree.

 

[eddy]

Thanks, rosesfromangels. Sometimes , I read the others posts and think I must be way out there alone!

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Ok...speaking of the pins on Pinterest....and my analyze this, analyze that obsession....did anyone notice that at the bottom of her prayer it shows it's from "sayinggoodbye.org" and when you click on that it leads you to "Remembrance & Memorial Services for Miscarriage or Infant Loss"?

 

[Mommyisabear]

Ok...speaking of the pins on Pinterest....and my analyze this, analyze that obsession....did anyone notice that at the bottom of her prayer it shows it's from "sayinggoodbye.org" and when you click on that it leads you to "Remembrance & Memorial Services for Miscarriage or Infant Loss"?

Generally, pins come up from all kinds of different sources and get spread around by repin after repin. IMO, I don't think the sources of the pins really matter much.


I also don't think too much about her pinterest activities. I'm kind of a compulsive pinner, and will browse and repin all kinds of "weird" things... especially when I'm stressed out. I am withholding any opinion as to whether or not she was involved in the murder, but I personally don't see her pinterest use as strange or even apathetic to her and her husband's plight.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Generally, pins come up from all kinds of different sources and get spread around by repin after repin. IMO, I don't think the sources of the pins really matter much.


I also don't think too much about her pinterest activities. I'm kind of a compulsive pinner, and will browse and repin all kinds of "weird" things... especially when I'm stressed out. I am withholding any opinion as to whether or not she was involved in the murder, but I personally don't see her pinterest use as strange or even apathetic to her and her husband's plight.

I agree. However, you'd just have to look at the pin to see why I was interested. The prayer itself has "sayinggoodbye.org" printed on it. That's why I was interested. Maybe it's just me, but I would have looked at the website even if I pinned it myself.

ETA: If someone analyzed my pins, they'd think I was nothing more than a moth-ridden old fogey interested only in history.

 

[Dallen]

Generally, pins come up from all kinds of different sources and get spread around by repin after repin. IMO, I don't think the sources of the pins really matter much.


I also don't think too much about her pinterest activities. I'm kind of a compulsive pinner, and will browse and repin all kinds of "weird" things... especially when I'm stressed out. I am withholding any opinion as to whether or not she was involved in the murder, but I personally don't see her pinterest use as strange or even apathetic to her and her husband's plight.

I agree with you as I am the same way. I have 1,000s of random pins and never look at the source.

 

[nikb]

I have such a hard time with Pinterest, probably because I barely understand it myself. I used to use MySpace "back in the day," and I use Facebook pretty regularly, but Pinterest confuses the heck out of me. If someone were to look at the few things I've attempted to Pin they'd probably think I was some crazy person who just got a computer for the first time, which is far from the truth. (well, I might be crazy but I have had computers since I was a little kid, even back in the day of using cassette tapes to play games). I've always thought of it as a slightly easier version of saving something to bookmarks or favorites (or the old school clipping magazine articles). I guess maybe everyone uses it differently? Do people go there to share with friends, or more to track ideas? I don't even know if it matters, but her postings make me curious how most people use Pinterest.

Tomorrow should be interesting, I hope.

 

[2Hope4]

Prayers for Erin's family, and friends as they might be hearing information for the first time today.

As for rescues, I've been involved with many over the years, and what I've found is that some start out with the love the animal, and at some point, greed took over. While I realize it takes fundraising to keep any rescue alive, sadly that's all some focus on. Not just horse rescues either. Even the ASPCA spends more money on fundraising, and paying their own salaries than on actual saving of animals. And yes, whoever is in charge of a rescue can receive a salary from the rescue! Some even purchase land, and then rent it to the rescue so they are receiving rent money each month for the rescue they run on land they own!!

Some rescues have a return policy for any animal adopted from them. So that at any time in the life of the pet, your circumstances change and you can't take care of the animal, it can be returned and rehomed. Some own the animal for it's lifetime, and can't exchange ownership with someone else, can't sell it, give it away, or even have it euthanized without the rescues OK. Others, once you adopt the animal, it's yours to do as you please, even rehoming, however most you sign forms you won't ever breed the animal.

As with just about anything in life, there's good and bad rescues out there. Research as much as you can before donating funds, or adopting without knowing the full contract. Also realize that most of the animals are donated to these rescues, usually meaning they got them for free, and then charge whatever amount they want for adoption, in some cases the adoption fee is higher than getting the animal from an individual. Some horse rescues require you make a monetary donation to their rescue before they accept the horse into their program. They then charge an adoption fee when the horse finds a new owner. I've only seen that once in dog rescue, and the amount was $1500 for them to take the dog!!!

The legit rescues that are out there have no problems with you asking questions, wanting to see their funding activity, how active they are in the community, etc. \\JMO

 

[nikb]

Prayers for Erin's family, and friends as they might be hearing information for the first time today. <snipped for space and clarity>

Oh wow I hadn't even thought about that. I keep dreading what we're going to learn here, and most of us don't even know her personally. Sending my thoughts to Erin's family and friends. Thoughts for justice, and peace.