GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #4

[beachlvr0810]

She left at 7am. Witness saw them at 10am ish. What happened in those three hours?
Maybe the guy she was to met was followed?
How many of us have checked up on a boyfriend or spouse in our lives? Drove by a house? or work? Followed them at 7am to check out a story of where they were that didn't quite make sense.

I've been thinking about those 3 hours too. Since I don't know Erin personally I can only relate to her through a mutual love for animals and photography. I myself do not find it unusual for her to go to JTP alone at 7am. Early morning hours and right before sunset are great times to see nature and wildlife at it's best. I've gotten up before sunrise just to catch a glimpse of a little ground squirrel near our porch and camped out on the back of a pickup after sunset in hopes of seeing the big buck come out under the apple tree. So it would be easy for Erin to spend 3 hours riding through JTP taking photos or just enjoying the beauty. I've spent 5 hours by myself exploring a huge old cemetery and taking photos. Not every woman is afraid to go explore the world by themselves.

 

[EGirl]

Did you notice in one of those photos from the link you posted that there is a red car?

But the pic was taken in 2011 or earlier. Doubt it's related, but it is interesting.

 

[JeannaT]

I've been thinking about those 3 hours too. Since I don't know Erin personally I can only relate to her through a mutual love for animals and photography. I myself do not find it unusual for her to go to JTP alone at 7am. Early morning hours and right before sunset are great times to see nature and wildlife at it's best. I've gotten up before sunrise just to catch a glimpse of a little ground squirrel near our porch and camped out on the back of a pickup after sunset in hopes of seeing the big buck come out under the apple tree. So it would be easy for Erin to spend 3 hours riding through JTP taking photos or just enjoying the beauty. I've spent 5 hours by myself exploring a huge old cemetery and taking photos. Not every woman is afraid to go explore the world by themselves.

Yes. And no one in her family seems to doubt that she would go to Joshua Tree by herself. I think it's tempting to say well "I wouldn't have done that!" it doesn't really further the conversation - Erin would have gone to JT alone, it seems.

 

[JeannaT]

Several posters have wondered if it maybe wasn't Erin who was sighted by the Beasleys.

The info that she was wearing a baseball cap and ponytail is interesting. There are women who DO wear baseball caps, and women who don't. I don't own a baseball cap and wouldn't wear one - ever. There are women I know who often wear baseball caps, and ponytails out the little baseball cap hole in the back. It's a clue for sure, IMHO.

 

[Barbieart]

Huffington post has an article up stating that police did talk to the witnesses on June 30th and seemed to imply the info on the locate erin page was incorrect about police not knowing about them.

 

[Barbieart]

But the pic was taken in 2011 or earlier. Doubt it's related, but it is interesting.

I agree. A large percentage of Marine Corps folks move around three years, sometimes less, sometimes more. The other thing is that if this is another Marine involved and he's close in age that would have made him a teenager living out there.

 

[JeannaT]

Huffington post has an article up stating that police did talk to the witnesses on June 30th and seemed to imply the info on the locate erin page was incorrect about police not knowing about them.

I think it's been known all along that the Beasleys did talk to LE on the scene. What is curious - is that LE doesn't seem to remember that or didn't integrate that clue into their investigation. It's been reported that LE has talked to the Beasleys again after the article came out. I wonder why they would do that if they already had all the information he divulged to the media? (My guess is, they didn't even have him on the radar at all). Also, LE told the Erin's family they had no idea who this guy was and hadn't heard this story. Why lie so baldfacedly to the family when they could just say we can't discuss specifics of the investigation at this point? Why act so clueless to the family? My guess is, because they were blindsided. They really didn't know about this clue, because who ever heard it at the scene dropped the ball.

 

[Catydidz]

But, I don't think the smaller cars, such as the one he was deceived to be driving, have adjustable seat heights. I only know that our main car, a Toyota Venza, does have a seat height adjustment. But, our Corolla does not, even though it is newer.

 

[Barbieart]

I think it's been known all along that the Beasleys did talk to LE on the scene. What is curious - is that LE doesn't seem to remember that or didn't integrate that clue into their investigation. It's been reported that LE has talked to the Beasleys again after the article came out. I wonder why they would do that if they already had all the information he divulged to the media? (My guess is, they didn't even have him on the radar at all). Also, LE told the Erin's family they had no idea who this guy was and hadn't heard this story. Why lie so baldfacedly to the family when they could just say we can't discuss specifics of the investigation at this point? Why act so clueless to the family? My guess is, because they were blindsided. They really didn't know about this clue, because who ever heard it at the scene dropped the ball.

Sorry, I missed that. I guess last time I thought there was some confusion. I should have read more.

 

[sophiebelle]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/erin-corwin-missing-marine-wife_n_5596885.html

This is the article I guess. I think info was not passed on as needed. But I don't know what info is being given directly to Erin's immediate family. Are the FB owners being given info from JC directly? It seems as though they are not watching the news?

 

[escape2sc]

I think it's been known all along that the Beasleys did talk to LE on the scene. What is curious - is that LE doesn't seem to remember that or didn't integrate that clue into their investigation. It's been reported that LE has talked to the Beasleys again after the article came out. I wonder why they would do that if they already had all the information he divulged to the media? (My guess is, they didn't even have him on the radar at all). Also, LE told the Erin's family they had no idea who this guy was and hadn't heard this story. Why lie so baldfacedly to the family when they could just say we can't discuss specifics of the investigation at this point? Why act so clueless to the family? My guess is, because they were blindsided. They really didn't know about this clue, because who ever heard it at the scene dropped the ball.

Yesterday, there was a comment by Locate Erin ( under the post regarding the witness article ) paraphrasing..Locate Erin stated, the witness did speak with a member of LE on the 30th but for some reason the investigators were not aware of the witness till the article was published.

I am 100% positive I read the comment yesterday but I just looked for the comment and it is has been deleted, so will say JMO

 

[mamamumbles]

Several posters have wondered if it maybe wasn't Erin who was sighted by the Beasleys.

The info that she was wearing a baseball cap and ponytail is interesting. There are women who DO wear baseball caps, and women who don't. I don't own a baseball cap and wouldn't wear one - ever. There are women I know who often wear baseball caps, and ponytails out the little baseball cap hole in the back. It's a clue for sure, IMHO.

Interesting idea. Maybe it wasn't Erin. Maybe it was someone dumping the car. I keep thinking of that couple from Texas, the ones who went into the military after killing the girl the boy slept with & then the girl spilled the beans to her roommate in the military.
Maybe a female helped dump the car.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Interesting idea. Maybe it wasn't Erin. Maybe it was someone dumping the car. I keep thinking of that couple from Texas, the ones who went into the military after killing the girl the boy slept with & then the girl spilled the beans to her roommate in the military.
Maybe a female helped dump the car.

I do think the young woman getting into the red car was Erin.

I just don't think if a team was dumping a vehicle of someone they had just harmed they would do it in broad daylight with cars passing by. I also don't think they would be sitting in the car just chatting either.

I really do think she went willingly with whomever this person is who was driving the red car, and he had either already premeditated her fate, and she didn't know it... or a heated argument ensued once they left, and he killed her because he was in a murderous rage about something.

 

[azure]

I don't think it's unlikely that Erin met someone at JTNP at 7. They could go for a stroll, take some pictures, and maybe during that time she could tell him she was pregnant. Perhaps that triggered something in the other person. He convinces her to leave her car somewhere inconspicuous in the desert and go with him. Maybe they need to talk, make some plans. Whatever he tells her, she goes for it, and is never seen again.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yesterday, there was a comment by Locate Erin ( under the post regarding the witness article ) paraphrasing..Locate Erin stated, the witness did speak with a member of LE on the 30th but for some reason the investigators were not aware of the witness till the article was published.

I am 100% positive I read the comment yesterday but I just looked for the comment and it is has been deleted, so will say JMO

I am sure there were many police at the scene taking down statements. Often it takes time for all those statements to be recorded and looked at by the lead detectives. I have no doubt Mr. Beasley told all of this to them when the police was out there the very day they found her car.

 

[m_brown]

I think we still need to be mindful of all of this.

The search warrants don't mention a GUY with a Jeep, although we can make assumptions that a male might own that vehicle, as I did earlier regarding a small red (late model) compact car likely being driven most frequently by a woman. Perhaps the red car was "borrowed" for the day, or if they happen to be owned by the same couple, perhaps the Jeep was in use elsewhere.

The identity of that guy was found using social media, and on a website, deduced through a comment on the this article http://www.z1077fm.com/breaking-news-in-case-of-missing-twentynine-palms-woman/#comment-41227, which was deemed to be MSM, although I believe comments are still considered hearsay.

I am in no way insinuating that the wife of any boyfriend was involved, just that the car may have been. And that red car might have CA plates if it was "newer" as witness Beasley stated, and was purchased once this person moved to YC or 29 palms. I think it is likely any search warrant for this car was sealed.

So, I still believe that it is pretty murky territory sleuthing him here, even if he is not named...please correct me if I am wrong!! I may well be!

Since the search warrants are posted online and they mention a guy with a Jeep from Alaska, I would think he is fair game for sleuthing as long as we don't name him. The cops raided his Jeep (and most probably his apartment on base, too) so it is already out there on MSM.

Not to say he is is a POI. Maybe he was just having an affair. Maybe he admitted it to the cops. Maybe JC knew about the affair a long time ago. Maybe the new information was the pregnancy. That angle is all speculation. That info doesn't mean he's a murderer. Still, it seems pretty clear LE has tunnel vision on him.

I am looking at a guy who fits the description. Some people on this forum know his name as well because you all are AMAZING.

Publicly available information indicates he grew up in Alaska, then moved with his wife to Yucca Valley, then moved onto base into a building with 12 apartments. Confirmation of that address is hard to come by. Confirmation of that Alaska plate is difficult, but not impossible.

There are other connections to Erin in the online universe. So, is it cool to sleuth this guy here without naming him?

 

[JeannaT]

I am sure there were many police at the scene taking down statements. Often it takes time for all those statements to be recorded and looked at by the lead detectives. I have no doubt Mr. Beasley told all of this to them when the police was out there the very day they found her car.

Sometimes that's true in cases of vague clues, or things that seem unimportant.

IF LE actually did not consider this clue before, they are completely remiss. An unforgivable oversight, imho. It would even look like someone purposely hid that information for some reason if in fact, it wasn't shared by the officer who first took the Beasley's info until published 2 weeks into the investigation.

 

[MissM31]

I think the person getting into the red car was Erin. Another woman would have fingerprints and leave traces. And to be quite frank, I don't think that another woman is involved at all in her disappearance. I think that she originally had just planned to talk to that person in the car. When he suggested they go somewhere, she moved the car to be further out of the way, like I said before, maybe so it wouldn't get towed or something and never made it back. I believe the news report is right about there being another Marine and that he did something to her...

 

[MissM31]

People are always putting emphasis on letters, imo. Like saying "sooo" and things like that.

 

[m_brown]

I still hold the belief that she went to JTNP with the same intention as was stated by husband and mom, to scout for photos or nice places to visit with mom. I think she may have planned to meet with the person, prior to the outing, who was sighted with the red car on the way back from JTNP to the base. From there, perhaps she planned to go elsewhere with him. Perhaps she told Husband that she may stop at the ranch to visit the horses after her trip to JTNP, giving reason why he may not expect her home until around 4 or why he stated he thought she might be "staying at the ranch."

Also, I think the investigators possibly asked the proprietor of the ranch to not speak out regarding Erin's disappearance. Although they did give an interview posted below, they may have been asked to not address it on social media.
http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...issing-evidence-search-horse-rescue/12763519/

I don't think it's unlikely that Erin met someone at JTNP at 7. They could go for a stroll, take some pictures, and maybe during that time she could tell him she was pregnant. Perhaps that triggered something in the other person. He convinces her to leave her car somewhere inconspicuous in the desert and go with him. Maybe they need to talk, make some plans. Whatever he tells her, she goes for it, and is never seen again.