Wherever there are people, there will be opportumists. Going fishing in the desert does not work. So people with nefarious intentions go where people have their guard down,
It is disingenuous to say that there is not a lot of drug use at music events. Think of the Beatles, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain and on and on.Of course, I am a child of the 60”s where drug use was very very common.
I do not see what rhe status of festivals has to do with the murder by either one or both of those women.
The only thing I see is that their friendships were very shallow. It does not seem anyone really knew much about them except the show that they were presenting.
It seems everyone of their “friends” bought their exhibit except Alexandra.
I am on a FB group with people I graduated high school with in 1967. There were over 400 in my class.
It seems like everyone knows someone. Some funny ancedotes about classmates, teachers, events, etc. It is so strange to me that no one talks about the fun times they had or any anecdotes. Of course, as far as I know, there were no murderers in my class so I don’t know how people would respond.
Eek! Disingenuous is not a term anyone's used for me before, to my knowledge!
But I notice that in earlier posts you described "hippies" with what seemed to be disdain. Differentiating between them and other leftists in the sixties, but with a very negative attitude toward what you described as hippy types. .
I wonder if you have been to these events since the 60's?
Its just not a chaotic drug scene. Is there drug use? Yeah. Like you said, as there is at any music event. But the issue is whether these events are child-friendly or whether these are dangerous events such that no one should bring a kid to for fear of exposing them to wacked out druggies and lewdness, and cult stuff, etc. And thus just one more example of poor decisions made by these two women regarding their kids.
Again, I have seen horrific behavior at Disney. I've actually never seen horrific behavior at one of these "hippie" type festivals or events. No matter how many people were stoned out of their minds.
For context, I live a couple miles away from Disney and had year-round passes for several years. So I'm quite familiar.
The hippies in the 60's grew up. They had kids. Some of their kids also embraced a similar subculture. But it morphed a bit from one that began as mostly young adults focused on experimenting and breaking free from the super restrictive, conservative culture of their parents, to one involving multiple generations, tons of children and a focus on community and a shared experience that derived in part from the subculture of some of the parents of the people who attend.
I greatly dislike Jen and Sarah Hart. I think they were phony hypocrites who were cruel and abusive to the beautiful children in their care and who ultimately murdered them after a lifetime of exploitation.
But there are thousands of parents who take their kids to these events. Those parents aren't cruel or neglectful or even misguided. Go to a baseball game and you'll see people brawling in the parking lot, exposing themselves in a lewd manner, hitting their kids or mates. I have seen all of that at a ball game. I've never seen anything remotely close at events involving the contemporary hippy subculture.
For that reason their involvement at these events is not one of the things I criticize them for.
Its really just their overall motivation when it comes to the kids. That's what I criticize. It was all about them and what their kids couldn't represent and do for them. Terrible people.
