CA CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #3

[SteveP]

They have to update the MP registry/reports - but that's all they do. They don't give "us" any details other than that.

If HP asked JW not to say where she is, wouldn't he comply? Surely he'd prefer their family matters be private. I don't think LE would personally contact JW, she would have to.

JW could tell the public that Heidi had been found without providing any other details. After all, he, and especially her two friends, have been out there, front and center, asking for help from the public to find her. If she had been found, I do believe they may feel that they would owe that much to the people they have been imploring to help. JMO

 

[StarRemy8]

It may take them a few days to update the files - but yes, she needs to be changed to VM in the databases. The only place I've heard about RMD being involved is here on WS, so I assumed it was accurate. If it's just speculation, I hope someone clarifies that.

Right, it was reported that but I am just saying that does not mean that is true. Reporters can say whatever they have heard and/or want to like this article says the 28th floor and now the 29th has been reported. I'm certainly not saying homicide is not investigating but I am just saying that we have not had confirmation from them just reports saying "sources" so it always makes you wonder especially since it doesn't seem like the media has said that recently.

I still don't understand how you go from friends and family going over to her home twice and doing a wellness check where it is said that everything checked out, everything was in place and nothing seemed off/suspicious or evident of crime scene other than that she was not there to "Federal agents and robbery homicide detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department went into Planck’s home with guns drawn on Friday evening, as the hunt for the missing woman continues. Sources believe that officers were under the impression that they might have been walking into a crime scene." Reports state that the investigators are looking in every possible outlet of the home to find evidence. Photographers are on scene as well as nearly a dozen other agents, who are scouring every room, the garbage and planters around the home."

I mean why would they suspect a crime scene when everyone that had been in the house prior had not given any indication of that nor neighbors saying they saw/heard anything that would make them believe a crime took place there so why go in with guns a blazing...I honestly have never heard of something so drastic for a simple missing persons case...not to mention to go to such extremes and then still not make an official statement to the media or public for someone missing. Dozens of agents with guns drawn, photographers, scouring the entire inside and outside of home, going through garbage, an evidence van taking things from the home etc. all because they thought it was a crime scene when she had already been reported missing and the home had been checked on without anything indicating that?

Federal Agents Enter Home Of Missing Woman Heidi Planck With Guns Drawn

 

[Curiosa20]

Right, it was reported that but I am just saying that does not mean that is true. Reporters can say whatever they have heard and/or want to like this article says the 28th floor and now the 29th has been reported. I'm certainly not saying homicide is not investigating but I am just saying that we have not had confirmation from them just reports saying "sources" so it always makes you wonder especially since it doesn't seem like the media has said that recently.

I still don't understand how you go from friends and family going over to her home twice and doing a wellness check where it is said that everything checked out, everything was in place and nothing seemed off/suspicious or evident of crime scene other than that she was not there to "Federal agents and robbery homicide detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department went into Planck’s home with guns drawn on Friday evening, as the hunt for the missing woman continues. Sources believe that officers were under the impression that they might have been walking into a crime scene." Reports state that the investigators are looking in every possible outlet of the home to find evidence. Photographers are on scene as well as nearly a dozen other agents, who are scouring every room, the garbage and planters around the home."

I mean why would they suspect a crime scene when everyone that had been in the house prior had not given any indication of that nor neighbors saying they saw/heard anything that would make them believe a crime took place there so why go in with guns a blazing...I honestly have never heard of something so drastic for a simple missing persons case...not to mention to go to such extremes and then still not make an official statement to the media or public for someone missing. Dozens of agents with guns drawn, photographers, scouring the entire inside and outside of home, going through garbage, an evidence van taking things from the home etc. all because they thought it was a crime scene when she had already been reported missing and the home had been checked on without anything indicating that?

Federal Agents Enter Home Of Missing Woman Heidi Planck With Guns Drawn

Please check out the posts and Twitter link submitted a few pages back last night regarding the LAPD Missing Persons Unit requesting that Tips or Information be given to the RHD Tipline or emailed to RHD directly. The RHD is a special unit in and of itself.

 

[Vaccine]

Just sitting here on a quiet Sunday morning, trying to wrap my head around everything we know, and everything we think we know, and everything we don't know about this bizarre case. Most of us here, I believe, are leaning towards 1 of a few basic ideas as to what happened to Heidi...

1) Her disappearance is related to her job, because she may have known too much about possible shady dealings.
2) The ex is responsible, due to possible ongoing custody/child support issues.
3) Heidi perhaps was going to H+F to get drugs, and something went wrong, resulting in her disappearance.
4) Heidi fled of her own accord, and may be either alive and well, alive and not well, or not alive.

I, at least today, believe that the answer may be 4, with pieces of 1, 2, and 3 all being contributing factors. I think that 1 and 2 were weighing heavily on her at the time, which may have contributed to 3, that may have been a regular, semi-regular, or sometime thing. The comment made by her friend in one of the last interviews, that she and her dog were "known" by some members of staff at H+F certainly seems to support the thought that she had been there a few times at least. Reviews on Yelp suggest that drugs are not uncommon at the high rise, so it is not a reach to think that perhaps that was her reason for going there. All of which brings us to 4. I believe that at the time of her disappearance, this woman who, on the surface, seems very strong and confident, may have been very fragile. We know she allegedly told her bf she was afraid and wished he was there with her. We assumed she was afraid of something else, but maybe she was afraid of herself. Maybe she knew the signals she was seeing in herself, and knew she was on the verge of a meltdown. For that reason, she may have just gotten into her RR and started driving to who knows where, to get away. I hope she checked herself, perhaps with someone's help, into a facility where she can get whatever help she needs to get her life back, because if she didn't, I fear she may have harmed herself and may not be able to get back . JMO

Excellent summary.

I'd add a couple of minor points:
1) Her disappearance is related to her job - because she may have known too much or been involved in her own fraudulent activity or side hustle, or because of other work related relationship
A new 5)
Heidi was involved in a secret relationship or hook ups which were causing her conflict or becoming controlling

I might also add the possibility that she had confided in a third party about business related issues who was now trying to extort or blackmail her with threats (which may or may not have gone wrong)

 

[moonriverfarm]

I have a nagging question concerning the dog's microchip.
A chip serves to identify a dog as owned by someone whose name is registered on the chip. For instance, if a dog is found, the finder can take the dog to a vet clinic where the dog can be scanned. USUALLY, the clinic will call the number associated with the chip to let the owner know their dog has been found. Rarely is the owner's info given to the finder, as they could decide to just keep the dog for themselves rather than return to the owner.

So there is really no database you can plug in to to find a lost dog or the person finding a lost dog, by the microchip. Chips don't have GPS capability.

That being said, I am confused as to how the ex located the dog - was it by the message sent to her phone? Because there is no other way the chip could have helped him locate the dog from his end.

 

[losangeles24]

I have a nagging question concerning the dog's microchip.
A chip serves to identify a dog as owned by someone whose name is registered on the chip. For instance, if a dog is found, the finder can take the dog to a vet clinic where the dog can be scanned. USUALLY, the clinic will call the number associated with the chip to let the owner know their dog has been found. Rarely is the owner's info given to the finder, as they could decide to just keep the dog for themselves rather than return to the owner.

So there is really no database you can plug in to to find a lost dog or the person finding a lost dog, by the microchip. Chips don't have GPS capability.

That being said, I am confused as to how the ex located the dog - was it by the message sent to her phone? Because there is no other way the chip could have helped him locate the dog from his end.

I think this has been brought up a few times.
Possibly the dog had a collar with a tag that included the phone number.
Perhaps the dog’s finder called that number as well as took him to be scanned for a chip.
I think the microchip place and the dogs finder reached out to her cell phone that JW found at the house and that is how he located them.

 

[NCWatcher]

I think this has been brought up a few times.
Possibly the dog had a collar with a tag that included the phone number.
Perhaps the dog’s finder called that number as well as took him to be scanned for a chip.
I think the microchip place and the dogs finder reached out to her cell phone that JW found at the house and that is how he located them.

Yes, probably true. I think the initial stories implied chips have GPS capabilities but it could be the initial reporter thought that. (Lots of people do.) Also, if the dog-finder took the dog to a vet where the finder was known as a current or former customer and was thought trustworthy, the clinic might very well give the finder the owner's number. But it seems it's been reported the dog-finder was calling HP's phone within hours of finding the dog. The chances of getting a chip scanned in the early evening on a Sunday seems slim. Not impossible but unlikely. So there probably was an ID collar tag too and the chip was scanned later on, maybe the next day. And the same phone # came up.
JMO

 

[losangeles24]

Yes, probably true. I think the initial stories implied chips have GPS capabilities but it could be the initial reporter thought that. (Lots of people do.) Also, if the dog-finder took the dog to a vet where the finder was known as a current or former customer and was thought trustworthy, the clinic might very well give the finder the owner's number. But it seems it's been reported the dog-finder was calling HP's phone within hours of finding the dog. The chances of getting a chip scanned in the early evening on a Sunday seems slim. Not impossible but unlikely. So there probably was an ID collar tag too and the chip was scanned later on, maybe the next day. And the same phone # came up.
JMO

Yes I agree.

 

[losangeles24]

So there’s a story here in the San Fernando Valley of a 36 year old woman who was reported missing about ten days ago. She walked out of a facility that was caring for her,due to had a brain injury she sustained a year ago. She left with no ID,no cell phone and is unable to communicate.
Yesterday they found her safe at a hospital in Montebello ( 45 mins from where she went missing) . Thank God. A nurse just happen to be watching a news story that was covering her as a missing person. The nurse recognized her as a Jane Doe patient that had been admitted at the hospital she works for.
The hospital says she’s been there since the day after she went missing.
With the mental issues that have been discussed
regarding HP, is it possible she’s in a hospital somewhere and hasn’t been located yet?

 

[Knox]

In the video at link below - @1:16 one friend says " There is no connection that I'm aware of, so I feel like that another one of the mysteries". The other friend says "We have confirmed there were several staff who knew her, recognized her, recognized her dog". Dang why do they always cut away? Let the girl continue talking, lol.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/vi...los-angeles-minutes-before-her-disappearance/

So if the employees told Heidi's friends they knew her and the dog, they would know why she was there and where she was going in the building right? Did the people who found the dog call security and or the front desk to report he was wondering the hallway and they have him in their apartment?

 

[Knox]

So there’s a story here in the San Fernando Valley of a 36 year old woman who was reported missing about ten days ago. She walked out of a facility that was caring for her,due to had a brain injury she sustained a year ago. She left with no ID,no cell phone and is unable to communicate.
Yesterday they found her safe at a hospital in Montebello ( 45 mins from where she went missing) . Thank God. A nurse just happen to be watching a news story that was covering her as a missing person. The nurse recognized her as a Jane Doe patient that had been admitted at the hospital she works for.
The hospital says she’s been there since the day after she went missing.
With the mental issues that have been discussed
regarding HP, is it possible she’s in a hospital somewhere and hasn’t been located yet?

Hospitals don't notify local LE of Jane/John Does when admitted?

 

[StarRemy8]

In the video at link below - @1:16 one friend says " There is no connection that I'm aware of, so I feel like that another one of the mysteries". The other friend says "We have confirmed there were several staff who knew her, recognized her, recognized her dog".
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/vi...los-angeles-minutes-before-her-disappearance/

So if the employees told Heidi's friends they knew her and the dog, they would know why she was there and where she was going in the building right? Did the people who found the dog call security and or the front desk to report he was wondering the hallway and they have him in their apartment?

And the one friend has already stated that she has picked up HP there before. She said that was last year but that she didnt know why she was there. How would your best friend, who owns a house and a car, call you and ask to be picked up from a random building without explaining why they were there and why they did not have their car. Even is HP didnt offer that up when she asked for the ride certainly you would ask your best friend when she got in the car why she was there or who lives there or what was she doing there, why she did not have her car and/or where her car was.... I have just always thought that was weird too. I can see if it was like 15 years ago or something maybe not remembering but within the last year does not make sense to me.

 

[losangeles24]

Hospitals don't notify local LE of Jane/John Does when admitted?

Not sure, however in this case they didn’t and if it wasn’t for that nurse who recognized her, who knows when the family would’ve found her.
Maybe they only check local hospitals?

 

[Knox]

And the one friend has already stated that she has picked up HP there before. She said that was last year but that she didnt know why she was there. How would your best friend, who owns a house and a car, call you and ask to be picked up from a random building without explaining why they were there and why they did not have their car. Even is HP didnt offer that up when she asked for the ride certainly you would ask your best friend when she got in the car why she was there or who lives there or what was she doing there, why she did not have her car and/or where her car was.... I have just always thought that was weird too. I can see if it was like 15 years ago or something maybe not remembering but within the last year does not make sense to me.

I agree. The friend who stated she picked Heidi up has not been named or shown on camera though. IIRC, it was one of these friends who recounted the story.
Regardless, Heidi has a history at Hope+Flower, and I'm betting the friends know far more details today than they will admit on camera.

 

[slowpoke]

I agree. The friend who stated she picked Heidi up has not been named or shown on camera though. IIRC, it was one of these friends who recounted the story.
Regardless, Heidi has a history at Hope+Flower, and I'm betting the friends know far more details today than they will admit on camera.

Similarly, I wonder what more the people who found and cared for Seven on the 29th floor can tell. Was the dog truly wandering, or was he sitting near a certain apt door or elevator or stairwell door? That could be telling.

I feel like if I found a dog wandering the hallway, I’d first start by asking the other tenants on the floor if it was their dog or their guest’s dog. (I wonder how many apts are on each floor?) How did that go for them? Anything to note? Only a half hour from when she was seen in the Flower St Alley is when Seven was found on their floor! Was Heidi in one of those apts, unbeknownst to the dog finders?

Seems like JW would have asked them questions like this when he went to pick up Seven from them. I’m sure LE did. Just things I’ve been thinking in my head. All JMO

 

[Knox]

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I live in the Hope and Flower Building in DTLA. I’ve been somewhat following this discussion and wanted to add a few things. One the parking garage needs a remote to get into it and all spaces are assigned. We pay $200 a month for parking and more if you want valet. Guests have to park in a public lot across the street for $20 a night. Two we have to keep a list of approved guests at the concierge’s desk and even then we have to come down to the lobby to escort our guests upstairs. Three nobody can get into the elevator and come upstairs unless they have a resident key fob to swipe for your particular floor. Four, my car got damaged in the garage so I asked for the footage from the surveillance cameras. I was told this request had to go through their legal department and to have my attorney or detective handling my case at LAPD contact their legal department. I spend 5k a month on a one bedroom and this place does everything in their power to make it difficult for everyone involved. If I order food, they don’t allow the delivery drivers to bring it to your door. We have to come down and get it from the concierges desk. Same thing with packages. They are supposed to accept them, log them and keep them at the concierges desk yet I’ve had countless packages go “missing” even after the delivery company has received a signature from a concierge. These were big value items. I don’t know ANYONE that is going to be resigning their lease. I don’t know much about this case but I can assure you she didn’t park in the garage, walk in, get in an elevator and get off at the 28th floor. It’s impossible for someone who doesn’t live here and have the garage opener, an assigned spot and a key fob for the 28th floor.

 

[Knox]

I re-discovered the above post and brought it forward, it answers many questions about the building. Thanks to @HopeFlowerDTLA

 

[genuineusa77]

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I live in the Hope and Flower Building in DTLA. I’ve been somewhat following this discussion and wanted to add a few things. One the parking garage needs a remote to get into it and all spaces are assigned. We pay $200 a month for parking and more if you want valet. Guests have to park in a public lot across the street for $20 a night. Two we have to keep a list of approved guests at the concierge’s desk and even then we have to come down to the lobby to escort our guests upstairs. Three nobody can get into the elevator and come upstairs unless they have a resident key fob to swipe for your particular floor. Four, my car got damaged in the garage so I asked for the footage from the surveillance cameras. I was told this request had to go through their legal department and to have my attorney or detective handling my case at LAPD contact their legal department. I spend 5k a month on a one bedroom and this place does everything in their power to make it difficult for everyone involved. If I order food, they don’t allow the delivery drivers to bring it to your door. We have to come down and get it from the concierges desk. Same thing with packages. They are supposed to accept them, log them and keep them at the concierges desk yet I’ve had countless packages go “missing” even after the delivery company has received a signature from a concierge. These were big value items. I don’t know ANYONE that is going to be resigning their lease. I don’t know much about this case but I can assure you she didn’t park in the garage, walk in, get in an elevator and get off at the 28th floor. It’s impossible for someone who doesn’t live here and have the garage opener, an assigned spot and a key fob for the 28th floor.

Wow, double wow! Also, it sounds like a prison! But you do have good security there, it sounds like.

 

[tarabull]

So again...how does Seven end up (+alone?) on the 28th floor???

 

[Curiosa20]

Wow, double wow! Also, it sounds like a prison! But you do have good security there, it sounds like.

Only Somebody or bodies are securely protected there from all I’ve seen.
JMOO MOO