CA CA - Jeff Joseph, 45, Hoopa, 21 June 2014

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

LE is just not interested in looking for a missing middle-aged pot grower!
 
Butterfly_Rises said:
LE is just not interested in looking for a missing middle-aged pot grower!
Click to expand...

You got that right! Even young, beautiful pot trimmers don’t stand a chance if they disappear.

I’m posting a link to another thread because someone is posting who has had first hand experience working briefly as a trimmer on a pot farm. Her insights are chilling. This industry is not peace, love and unicorns. The first post talks about the disappearance of Jennifer Wilmer in 1993. Subsequent posts are more general.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...ow-Creek-13-Sept-1993&p=13875684#post13875684
 
It took me about 5 hours to read through this whole thread. I remember when he went missing. This was another case that really haunted me. They all do to a certain extent, but some more than others. Anyway, I wanted to add a comment from that LOST COAST article about the reward for info on Jeff. Listen to this: In response to TIP's post naming HUNTER as the person of interest....A man named Patrick Duff replied to TIP, with this question:
"Did what happened in Hoopa the last couple of days have anything to do with it?"
That question was left unanswered. No more info from TIP.

SO WHAT DID HAPPEN IN JANUARY (or possibly FEB) ON HOOPA RESERVATION????

And Why does someone connect this event with Jeff and Hunter?

I am looking into it, but I have not yet seen anything about any newsworthy event occurring at that time in connection with HOOPA.
 
[h=1]The Humboldt 35[/h] [h=2]Why does Humboldt County have the highest rate of missing persons reports in the state?[/h]
Many families who were expecting loved ones to call or return home from Humboldt County only to have them go missing find the process of searching for them to be frustrating. Vikki Joseph, whose brother Jeff Joseph disappeared in June of 2014, says that she has found community with other families whose loved ones disappeared, many of whom, like Jeff, were involved in the cannabis industry.

"It's hard to connect with anyone who understands what it's like to have a missing family member up there," Vikki Joseph says. Since Jeff went missing, she has corresponded with the families of Danielle Bertolini, Sheila Franks and Chris Giauque, all of whom disappeared under suspicious circumstances related to the cannabis industry. (Bertolini's remains were found in 2015.)


Jeff Joseph, a dispensary owner from Los Angeles, was visiting his farm near Weitchpec when he suddenly stopped returning calls from his sister and girlfriend. His cell phone last pinged off a tower near Bloody Camp Road near Hoopa. Vikki Joseph believes her brother was murdered in connection with his cannabis grow and says his partners were not cooperative with the sheriff's investigation, nor would they let his family access the property to gather Jeff's belongings. The partners allegedly told her brother and uncle that if they crossed the gate, they would be shot. She found their refusal to cooperate with her family or help investigators suspicious.


"Where I live is very suburban, it's not forest, it's not remote, we don't lose cell phone service," she says in a phone interview. "It can be very dangerous. When you mix growing big amounts of weed and lots of money, it's a recipe for disaster."

Trying to keep her brother's name in the public eye and communicate with investigators from so far away has been challenging. While segments like the Crime Watch Daily piece keep a laser focus on photogenic young women, little attention has been given to Jeff Joseph's case outside of local news sites like Redheaded Blackbelt and it remains unsolved four years later. But you won't find Jeff's case on the AG's listings for Humboldt County. Because Vikki Joseph made the report in Los Angeles, that's where the case is listed. She says she worked closely with Humboldt County Sheriff's Office detective Todd Fulton but received no notice when he retired, finding out only three months later that the case had bounced to a different detective. Vikki Joseph has ended up doing a lot of investigative work herself, tracking down leads and hiring private investigators.


The sheriff's office wouldn't comment on the specifics of the case, stating it was an open investigation, but Freese says if they had a new lead, they would work it. In general terms, Freese says that if they had enough probable cause to cross a locked gate, they would request a warrant and do so. In the case of Jeff Joseph, she says, there's a lot she just can't share.


"We've done extensive work on it," she says, adding that it's imperative for family members to keep in contact with the department and encourage others who might have information to come forward. "I think they should call over to our department and see who is carrying the case. Often it's going to be a family member, what they forgot to say or didn't think of [that helps]. I am all about having family members call. Sometimes I will set up a day, every week or every month. I say, 'I will call you at 9 o'clock,' and update them on where we're at. That can bring some peace."


Vikki Joseph isn't satisfied. She describes herself as being in a double-bind, with plenty of information but a frustrating lack of options for what to do with it.

"I have things other families don't have," she says. "Things that could have all been researched. But there's only so much we can do. I can research it and research it, can provide them with all their leads and tips but I can't arrest anyone."


Although Jeff Joseph was originally listed as "voluntary missing," Vikki Joseph doesn't believe her brother would have disappeared on purpose. He was a loving, kind man, she insists. He was non-violent, refusing to carry a gun. When their mother was dying, Jeff was the one who took care of her, feeding her and changing her diapers. He would never go this long without letting his family know he was OK. It hurts Vikki Joseph to think about what he must have felt in those last moments, the fear and betrayal. She just wants to know where his body is to bring him back to Los Angeles County.

Asked what she's going to do once that happens, Vikki Joseph doesn't hesitate.
"I'm going to put him to rest next to his mom," she says.
Click to expand...
https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/the-humboldt-35/Content?oid=7775161
 
Kim Kemp joins with the Northcoast Journal in exploring those missing in the Emerald Triangle...Humboldt, Trinity and Mendocino counties. She lists everyone missing in the three counties...at least the ones she could find listed.

Note the event for the families of the missing in Sacramento June 9-10. Quoting Kym’s beautiful writing....

[FONT=&quot]Long after the missing posters on those who have vanished have faded and blown away in the wind, some family members will keep vigil. Some will keep vigil silently–barely acknowledging out loud the loose thread that caught on their heart when their loved one vanished and which now threatens to unravel their life. Some will keep vigil by reaching out to the media or police or both on a regular basis, hoping even decades after their loss that they will get answers. They hope but, at the same time, they fear to know for sure that their loved one is dead.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If you have a family or friend missing, an event this June 9 in Sacramento may be helpful to you. This free event will have law enforcement available to help record information. Family members can give DNA samples if they choose to help with identification. They are also “encouraged to bring photos, along with medical and dental records of their missing loved ones.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

http://kymkemp.com/2018/02/01/who-is-missing-in-the-emerald-counties/
 
Hello all, My question is remotely tangential (or perhaps not) to Jeff's case. Did Jeff ever live in Portland, Oregon? I ask because there was a Jeff Joseph involved in pot and hemp stuff back in the early/mid 90's in Portland. I never met him, but the name rings a bell. At that time, a friend was in the process of suing one of Portland's leading MJ advocates. My friend stated that Jeff, who apparently had some knowledge (none of it good) about the person being sued, had a pretty good idea of the seamy underside of the industry and was keeping my friend informed about some of the local characters and their dealings.
 
Oski said:
Hello all, My question is remotely tangential (or perhaps not) to Jeff's case. Did Jeff ever live in Portland, Oregon? I ask because there was a Jeff Joseph involved in pot and hemp stuff back in the early/mid 90's in Portland. I never met him, but the name rings a bell. At that time, a friend was in the process of suing one of Portland's leading MJ advocates. My friend stated that Jeff, who apparently had some knowledge (none of it good) about the person being sued, had a pretty good idea of the seamy underside of the industry and was keeping my friend informed about some of the local characters and their dealings.
Click to expand...
BBM

:welcome: Oski. Are you any relation to the UC Berkeley mascot? :)

That is very interesting. I don’t know if Jeff lived in Portland, but we know he was active in the medical marijuana scene in L.A., so what you’re saying isn’t a big leap. But he was having legal troubles of his own in that regard, so I wonder if he would have been talking to someone suing a marijuana advocate. But it’s something to ponder. Perhaps Jeff’s sister could let us know about that.
 
Thanks for the response, Lilibet. Yes, as an alumnus of UC I am one of Oski's progeny. I've spent the past few days thinking about what I posted, and I don't want to start wild conjecture or a conspiracy theory. In 1995, when my friend had his lawsuit against The Advocate (as I shall refer to him), he had a difficult time because lots of folks in PDX knew all about The Advocate's shady deals but wouldn't talk. The Advocate had been threatening people with a lawsuit for libel, slander, or defamation if anyone discussed his dealings. Furthermore, what little I know of the scene in PDX, threats of violence aren't uncommon. But there were a few people like Jeff who would talk, and it helped my friend win his case to the tune of $40k. Jeff obviously did not tell The Advocate that he couldn't stand him or what he really thought of him. I don't think Jeff feared retaliatory violence back in the mid 90's. The Advocate is a medical marijuana titan and has connections all over the place, including California. He travels there regularly. On his Facebook page, he has posted an item or two about Jeff's disappearance. I began to wonder since my last post whether The Advocate, who professes to be mystified, knows anything about Jeff's disappearance or the people associated with Jeff, particularly in Northern California. There is tangled web of relationships in the MJ industry that spans this country, not simply Oregon or the Pacific coast. So, the more I have thought about this over the week, I am convinced that some who profess not to know anything about Jeff's disappearance (like The Advocate) may actually know a critical detail or the whole story behind what has happened.
 
Oski said:
Thanks for the response, Lilibet. Yes, as an alumnus of UC I am one of Oski's progeny. I've spent the past few days thinking about what I posted, and I don't want to start wild conjecture or a conspiracy theory. In 1995, when my friend had his lawsuit against The Advocate (as I shall refer to him), he had a difficult time because lots of folks in PDX knew all about The Advocate's shady deals but wouldn't talk. The Advocate had been threatening people with a lawsuit for libel, slander, or defamation if anyone discussed his dealings. Furthermore, what little I know of the scene in PDX, threats of violence aren't uncommon. But there were a few people like Jeff who would talk, and it helped my friend win his case to the tune of $40k. Jeff obviously did not tell The Advocate that he couldn't stand him or what he really thought of him. I don't think Jeff feared retaliatory violence back in the mid 90's. The Advocate is a medical marijuana titan and has connections all over the place, including California. He travels there regularly. On his Facebook page, he has posted an item or two about Jeff's disappearance. I began to wonder since my last post whether The Advocate, who professes to be mystified, knows anything about Jeff's disappearance or the people associated with Jeff, particularly in Northern California. There is tangled web of relationships in the MJ industry that spans this country, not simply Oregon or the Pacific coast. So, the more I have thought about this over the week, I am convinced that some who profess not to know anything about Jeff's disappearance (like The Advocate) may actually know a critical detail or the whole story behind what has happened.
Click to expand...

Go Bears! My husband and I ended up at UC Davis, but grew up in the Bay Area.

Your information is fascinating. I was able to easily identify The Advocate, who shall remain nameless here, but oh my! This stuff is all new to me. You may be onto something. Regardless, from my observations, the marijuana industry can be ruthless even among the small time growers, but Jeff had been running with the big dogs, where there was more at stake. Medical marijuana is clearly big business. So retribution is not off the table, whether past associates caught up with him or he crossed paths with a local Emerald Triangle killer.

2012 article about high volume medical marijuana clinics...big business.
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2012/12/medical_marijuana_a_few_high-v.html

I’ve always wondered why Jeff ended up in Louisiana, which is where he lived at the time of his disappearance in CA. Going from memory, I believe one of the guys working on the property was a friend from Louisiana and I think the other one moved to southern Oregon after Jeff’s disappearance.

OT—Incidentally, Jackson county in southern Oregon where I live has the highest number of medical marijuana patients in the state, followed closely by adjoining Josephine county. I’ve joked that we certainly have a LOT of sick people here! :) We also have the highest number of growers and grow sites. Not a distinction I like, but it is what it is. And now that recreational use is legal, I expect even more grows.

http://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/DISEAS...Documents/OMMP Statistic Snapshot 10-2017.pdf
 
Here's hoping Jackson County is doing a better job of regulating legal weed than Mendocino County. The Stupervisors here are still tinkering with details of legalization long after the legal deadlines have passed. They are rearranging the deck chairs on the sinking ship of marijuana legalization. The legalization of marijuana here will do absolutely nothing toward drying up the black market. And the killings in the woods will continue.
 
I have a bit more to add. It seems to me that Jeff Joseph is, indeed, the name of a person who was in PDX long ago. If the Jeff Joseph in question has a middle name beginning with V and was born in 1963, there is a Jeff Joseph who shows up in Oregon's court records system.

The cases mostly involve traffic/parking violations, a small claims case, and an eviction of a hemp business.

Jeff was working with someone named Christina Cody at HEMP DEPOT. The eviction seems to have been resolved by some sort of an agreement. The business ran from 2003 to 2005: HEMP DEPOT 120 SW ANKENY ST PORTLAND , OR 97204.

Previously, Jeff registered and ran this business from 1993 until 1996: CANNABIS HEMP CLOTHING CONNECTION LTD. 4616 SE HAWTHORNE PORTLAND , OR 97215

However, I do not see any other court records or business registry information much later than 2005.
 
Oski said:
I have a bit more to add. It seems to me that Jeff Joseph is, indeed, the name of a person who was in PDX long ago. If the Jeff Joseph in question has a middle name beginning with V and was born in 1963, there is a Jeff Joseph who shows up in Oregon's court records system.

The cases mostly involve traffic/parking violations, a small claims case, and an eviction of a hemp business.

Jeff was working with someone named Christina Cody at HEMP DEPOT. The eviction seems to have been resolved by some sort of an agreement. The business ran from 2003 to 2005: HEMP DEPOT 120 SW ANKENY ST PORTLAND , OR 97204.

Previously, Jeff registered and ran this business from 1993 until 1996: CANNABIS HEMP CLOTHING CONNECTION LTD. 4616 SE HAWTHORNE PORTLAND , OR 97215

However, I do not see any other court records or business registry information much later than 2005.
Click to expand...

Not the same guy.

Sorry, I don't know how to link from my phone, but according to namus the missing Jeff Joseph's middle initial is K, and if he was 45 years old in 2014 he was born in 1968 or 1969.
 
Thanks, Dub.
I still can't get past the similarities. The age of both Jeff Josephs is about right. Activists in PDX have been talking about his disappearance, etc.
Perhaps the court records got the birth date and middle initial incorrect? Please check the Facebook post from February 2nd.
https://www.facebook.com/hemp.org/
In any case, the name rang a bell. To restate my original premise, someone from the PDX crowd probably knows a detail or three, if not the whole story behind the disappearance. My sixth sense has been tingling ever since I first learned of this case.
 
dub said:
Not the same guy.

Sorry, I don't know how to link from my phone, but according to namus the missing Jeff Joseph's middle initial is K, and if he was 45 years old in 2014 he was born in 1968 or 1969.
Click to expand...

You’re right. Here’s a link from Spokeo. Jeffrey K Joseph’s sister (who is a verified insider on this thread) is listed among his relatives. It does show that he lived in Portland at some point though, and clearly he is known there by those in “the trade.”

What a coincidence! And there is still a chance that someone in Portland knows something. Even more likely, someone in Humboldt knows something.

https://www.spokeo.com/Jeffrey-Joseph/Oregon
 
burblestein said:
I just found this article. Two years ago, Jeff's remains may have been found.

Redheaded Blackbelt: http://kymkemp.com/2016/02/07/griev...mains-found-near-hoopa-belong-to-jeff-joseph/

Also: http://kymkemp.com/2016/01/29/human-remains-found-2/
Click to expand...

No, it wasn't Jeff.
Human remains discovered January 28 off of Redwood Grove Road in the Hoopa area have been identified by the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office as that of Arthur “Cricket” Ruiz III, age 42. Ruiz who was born in Sonoma County was a resident of the Hoopa area.
Click to expand...
http://kymkemp.com/2016/06/07/human...-hoopa-identified-as-arthur-cricket-ruiz-iii/
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

DNASolves

Who is DeKalb County John Doe (2022)?

Members online

... and 147 more.
Total: 2,362 (members: 148, guests: 2,214)

Online statistics

Members online
148
Guests online
2,214
Total visitors
2,362
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
603,427
Messages
18,156,434
Members
231,726
Latest member
froggy4
Back
Top