CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Recidivist said:
Oh yeah, the overwhelming medical bills that he never had any intention of paying, otherwise he would have, with his hefty annual income. No. He paid nothing towards medical bills, or health insurance, but instead gambled away tens of thousands of dollars.

And the evidence of this is? What day was this evidence presented? I must have missed that somehow. I'll go back and watch again. What day?

cobalt sky · Mar 13, 2019

Karinna said:
Why would CJ rely on Merritts money when he gambled it away?

Karinna said:
So why did his daughter just testify in trial about her father CM being irresponsible with money?

Lots of men gamble and are irresponsible with money. And most of them never murder anyone.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

cobalt sky said:
Lots of men gamble and are irresponsible with money. And most of them never murder anyone.

Taylor related a story of how Chase made certain she had the dress she wanted for prom. Maybe that was an irrational purchase, given their finances.

Karinna · Mar 13, 2019

Recidivist said:
Oh yeah, the overwhelming medical bills that he never had any intention of paying, otherwise he would have, with his hefty annual income. No. He paid nothing towards medical bills, or health insurance, but instead gambled away tens of thousands of dollars.

And frauding people out of their money, burning his bridges with others he did business with.

cobalt sky · Mar 13, 2019

Karinna said:
There was a time factor.

What's an additional 20 or 30 minute drive when you've already driven an hour and a half with 4 dead bodies in the back of your vehicle?

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Karinna said:
And frauding people out of their money, burning his bridges with others he did business with.

And apparently didn't burn every bridge. Also, other than Sequeda (his father didn't testify, or at least not yet) who testified that the Chase burned a bridge with them?

Recidivist · Mar 13, 2019

JMarsh said:
And the evidence of this is? What day was this evidence presented? I must have missed that somehow. I'll go back and watch again. What day?

Its my opinion. You seem to be very well versed in all things defense. Is there any single receipt for any payment made towards his overwhelming medical debt? I bet not.

QueenBofOB · Mar 13, 2019

Mony Mony said:
IMO the missed call......I can believe one extraordinary thing happening like the call not registering but the whole family saw it. But then you add JM just so happened to implement his new fangled method of accounting, CM was asked (conveniently) to erase QB that same weekend, and CM was in the clubhouse peacefully watching a movie with no reception at the time of the murders......come on!

I remember his first story was, that he was on the toilet and didn't hear the phone ring, so he missed the call.

Karinna · Mar 13, 2019

cobalt sky said:
Lots of men gamble and are irresponsible with money. And most of them never murder anyone.

Yes, but CM stands charged of the McStay murders and is now on Trial for that.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Recidivist said:
Its my opinion. You seem to be very well versed in all things defense. Is there any single receipt for any payment made towards his overwhelming medical debt? I bet not.

I've already given you the links to all this. No. Of course I don't have a receipt. But there are lots of indications that Chase was truthful regarding this. I gave you the links twice.

The "receipt" for the Olive Garden expenditure is on a ledger presented by the DA. I will have to go back and screen shot that. Here's the deal, you give me your substantiation and I'll produce that screen shot.

smr · Mar 13, 2019

JMarsh said:
Taylor related a story of how Chase made certain she had the dress she wanted for prom. Maybe that was an irrational purchase, given their finances.

He sounds like a loving father.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Karinna said:
Yes, but CM stands charged of the McStay murders and is now on Trial for that.

And no one in the history of the world has ever been wrongfully convicted, ever? I think there are over 2000 exonerees in this country alone who would beg to differ.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

smr said:
He sounds like a loving father.

Yes. He does. And he raised an impressive daughter. Guilty or innocent, you gotta give him credit for that.

QueenBofOB · Mar 13, 2019

smr said:
What's the point of Rodriguez showing the picture of CM in a hole on the desert he had dug? I know it looks dramatic and some are excited to see it. But how does that support the charge? It's his job, wasn't it? Showing that picture adds nothing to the evidence. Say a family of 5 were found murdered with a knife, will thousands of chefs who appear in pictures holding butcher's knife be suspected of the crime?

No. Just the one who was ripping the family of 5, off.

Karinna · Mar 13, 2019

JMarsh said:
Yes. He does. And he raised an impressive daughter. Guilty or innocent, you gotta give him credit for that.

I think i would give the mother more credit for that IMO.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Karinna said:
I think i would give the mother more credit for that IMO.

Well, the daughter isn't becoming a lawyer because of the mother though her mother, I'm sure, can a take great deal of credit, Chase raised a daughter who is devoting her life to a career because of what she saw happen to her father.

Recidivist · Mar 13, 2019

JMarsh said:
I've already given you the links to all this. No. Of course I don't have a receipt. But there are lots of indications that Chase was truthful regarding this. I gave you the links twice.

No, you didn't. I agree that it has been established he had some sort of medical issue, had no health insurance, because he didn't want to pay premiums and any and all medical care is very pricey. What I haven't seen is any attempt to settle any medical bill, or to make any payments. I think the doctors who were stiffed by him, would have very much appreciated even just a portion of the money wasted at casino's. The folks on the jury have likely faced their own medical issues, the high cost of health insurance, co-payments, deductibles, and will resent ridiculous attempts to defy their logic and common sense. imo...

Recidivist · Mar 13, 2019

JMarsh said:
Well, the daughter isn't becoming a lawyer because of the mother-so, though her mother, I'm sure, can take credit, Chase basically raised a daughter who is devoting her life to a career because of what she saw happen to her father.

Its hard to raise a child from a poker table.

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Recidivist said:
Its hard to raise a child from a poker table.

And the evidence that this is what occurred is....

The day of testimony?

JMarsh · Mar 13, 2019

Recidivist said:
No, you didn't. I agree that it has been established he had some sort of medical issue, had no health insurance, because he didn't want to pay premiums and any and all medical care is very pricey. What I haven't seen is any attempt to settle any medical bill, or to make any payments. I think the doctors who were stiffed by him, would have very much appreciated even just a portion of the money wasted at casino's. The folks on the jury have likely faced their own medical issues, the high cost of health insurance, co-payments, deductibles, and will resent ridiculous attempts to defy their logic and common sense. imo...

And the evidence of this is?

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