CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #18

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hmmm from opening statements, when he was introducing the "Team".... he doesn't actually say he will testify, there are others that are mentioned as part of the "Team" but also not said they would testify. Looking at this, they didn't even say Beasley would testify.


So we built a team, the first person that you may hear his name, he may testify , is Gary Robertson, he was our investigator on this case. 34 years with San Bernardino Sheriff Dept... San Bernardino City Police, 20 years as a homicide detective or Sergeant of that team, investigated well over 500 homicides.

We also brought in Suzanne Serdahely, who is seated with Mr. Merritt, she's 27 years as a private investigator, involved in at least 24 death penalty cases in a serious manner, she had minor interactions with other one's, but that's what she does.

We saw that there is a lot of information about the crime scene, so we wanted to get the person that we knew about crime scenes, so we got Randy, or Randolph Beasley involved. He has spent 30 years with the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department as a crime scene specialist, a trainer for many of the people who you will hear testify in this trial.

We then elicited a DNA expert, who is Suzanna Ryan, she has 20 years experience as a DNA analyst, she has a Masters in Science and Forensic Science. She will be offering her opinion on different parts of the DNA, she will be explaining the DNA process to you. She made some observations which helped in our direction for our investigation into what really happened.

We have a Vlad Jovanovic, who is our cell tower expert. We wanted somebody that knew cells, who knew cell networks. He has a Bachelor's of Science, Masters of Science, PhD in Electrical Engineering. He spent 35 years working in communication networks, 25 of that in cellular networks, where he optimized them. Checked them to see if they were working properly, developed them, tested them. He knows the towers and how they work and what they can tell you.

We next knew this was a financial case so we contacted a Dennis Shogren who’s a forensic accountant. He had been an accountant for 20 years. His primary purpose is he’s a forensic accountant in trusts and wills, he likes to see where money goes, where it’s spent. It’s funny we really needed him cos this is a financial case but the government never looked for an accountant to tell them where the money went. You’re gonna learn about that. Our expert gave them a report, they hired one now. I guess we’ll see where that goes.

And then we also went to Elluma Discovery which is a computer science firm, their expertise is computer forensic analysis. You’ll be hearing from them. The things that you’ll hear about, what happens on the computers, who’s doing what, they went down to the code and they’re going to tell you exactly, during the testimony, what they see.
Well he made it sound as if they were going to call him and all these people. Why even bring them up and their credentials if not? Like Tracy, they might as well not exist. At least they should get the cell guy up there if he disputes their findings. Much of their 'experts' that testified had faulty reports as well.
 
7h7 hours ago

Cathy Russon Retweeted Heidi Stephens

#McStay - The defense told me they've tried to subpoena Dan Kavanaugh and he's nowhere to be found.

Uh-huh. Sure they have. In this electronic age, they can't find people?!?!?

I had been working at a new job for less than 3 months, never told anyone where or what the company was, yet somehow I got a subpoena delivered to me there related to my condo association lawsuit.
 
Well he made it sound as if they were going to call him and all these people. Why even bring them up and their credentials if not? Like Tracy, they might as well not exist. At least they should get the cell guy up there if he disputes their findings. Much of their 'experts' that testified had faulty reports as well.

Do you think any of the State's witnesses had faulty reports?
 
hmmm from opening statements, when he was introducing the "Team".... he doesn't actually say he will testify, there are others that are mentioned as part of the "Team" but also not said they would testify. Looking at this, they didn't even say Beasley would testify.

rsbm
From Opening Statement Part 13:

FACT E – CELL TOWER HISTORY SHOWS MERRITT AT THE GRAVESITE ON FEBRUARY 6TH


Defense Cell Phone Expert


He knows how they interact with one another, how the towers talk with one another, he will explain all of that to you.

[...] He will explain this to you.

We call him Vlad. Vlad could talk to you guys for eight hours on cell phones, I promise you we will try and keep it short so you don’t gloss over, we’re gonna limit him. But, by the end you’ll be convinced he knows what he’s talking about. Clearly, cell phone wasn’t at the graves.
 
I am 100% certain Chase is guilty now

But having been through the Knox and Pistorius trials I am by no means certain of a guilty verdict.

The defence case has failed to come up to brief. However I wonder if the whole trial has been so flabby that a juror or two will simply throw their hands in the air. The prosecution case kind of lacked a big moment. On the other hand I think the defence really shot themselves in the foot over DK.

meh
 
From Opening Statement Part 13:

FACT E – CELL TOWER HISTORY SHOWS MERRITT AT THE GRAVESITE ON FEBRUARY 6TH

Defense Cell Phone Expert


He knows how they interact with one another, how the towers talk with one another, he will explain all of that to you.

[...] He will explain this to you.

We call him Vlad. Vlad could talk to you guys for eight hours on cell phones, I promise you we will try and keep it short so you don’t gloss over, we’re gonna limit him. But, by the end you’ll be convinced he knows what he’s talking about. Clearly, cell phone wasn’t at the graves.

LOL

That opening contains so much "testimony" that was never introduced.

I have no idea if this is OK in US trials - but I can't imagine getting away with this in the NZ High Court. Back home the judge would note all this. I hope the prosecution get into it!
 
I've been reviewing and transcribing Ryan Baker's testimony (QuickBooks). I'm not sure if I got a handle on it at the time because it was done over Skype and the audio quality wasn't too good.

Baker is the customer support rep who took the call on Feb 9th asking for the account to be deleted from their servers.

Joey had different email addresses associated with each QB account (which came from Hanke's testimony) - he had contact @earthinspiredproducts.com and custom @earthinspiredproducts.com.

The contact account is where Joey maintained all his records and the custom account is where Merritt wrote and deleted cheques.

When Merritt called on the 9th to get them to delete everything from their servers (a couple of hours before he went to Susan Blake's house) he gave them Joey's custom email address. I was expecting that he may have given them Joey's contact email address to purchase desktop but Rodriguez put this question to him -

P: Ok. So if somebody else had ordered a new version of QB on the JosephMcStay69 @hotmail.com would that information populate over to the custom @earthinspiredproducts.com account?

The upshot of testimony was that the purchase of desktop didn't appear on Baker's screen because a different email address had been used.

I'm pondering some questions -

Why did Merritt use the hotmail email address to purchase desktop?
Would it have even been linked by QB to Joey's eip QB accounts when the call was made to purchase desktop on the 8th?
Why didn't he use his own email/bank card on the 8th? - is it because the bank hadn't issued him a card yet with his new bank account opened on the 3rd?

It's still unclear to me whether QB would have deleted Joey's contact and custom QB's accounts, or just the custom account, if they'd had a response to the emails.

This was devastating testimony for the defense though:

P: Now if somebody puts a desktop version on, there’s also the ability to access that online, is that correct?

RB: That is correct, yes ma’am.
 
I've been reviewing and transcribing Ryan Baker's testimony (QuickBooks). I'm not sure if I got a handle on it at the time because it was done over Skype and the audio quality wasn't too good.

Baker is the customer support rep who took the call on Feb 9th asking for the account to be deleted from their servers.

Joey had different email addresses associated with each QB account (which came from Hanke's testimony) - he had contact @earthinspiredproducts.com and custom @earthinspiredproducts.com.

The contact account is where Joey maintained all his records and the custom account is where Merritt wrote and deleted cheques.

When Merritt called on the 9th to get them to delete everything from their servers (a couple of hours before he went to Susan Blake's house) he gave them Joey's custom email address. I was expecting that he may have given them Joey's contact email address to purchase desktop but Rodriguez put this question to him -

P: Ok. So if somebody else had ordered a new version of QB on the JosephMcStay69 @hotmail.com would that information populate over to the custom @earthinspiredproducts.com account?

The upshot of testimony was that the purchase of desktop didn't appear on Baker's screen because a different email address had been used.

I'm pondering some questions -

Why did Merritt use the hotmail email address to purchase desktop?
Would it have even been linked by QB to Joey's eip QB accounts when the call was made to purchase desktop on the 8th?
Why didn't he use his own email/bank card on the 8th? - is it because the bank hadn't issued him a card yet with his new bank account opened on the 3rd?

It's still unclear to me whether QB would have deleted Joey's contact and custom QB's accounts, or just the custom account, if they'd had a response to the emails.

This was devastating testimony for the defense though:

P: Now if somebody puts a desktop version on, there’s also the ability to access that online, is that correct?

RB: That is correct, yes ma’am.
BBM, From what i read Merritt wanted all the quickbooks stuff wiped and deleted.
(quote)
Rodriguez asked Baker about the “tone and tenor” of the caller’s request.
The caller “wanted to remove all of the business records from our system, wanted it purged directly from our QuickBooks servers so we had it removed altogether,” Baker said.
Rodriguez asked if the caller had given a reason for doing so.
“No,” responded Baker. “They were just very adamant they wanted it taken off of our servers.”
“Did the call appear to be unusual to you?” Rodriguez asked.
“Yes, ma’am,” said Baker. “It was very unusual.”
“Why was it unusual?” Rodriguez asked.
“Business owners are not trying to get rid of their records,” said Baker. “Business owners very much want to protect their data. And even when they are worried about other employees seeing things or having it removed for protection purposes, it is very very unlikely you are going to get a call where someone is very insisting of having it removed from the system itself.”

QuickBooks Rep: Merritt Masqueraded As McStay In Try To Commandeer Account | SBCSentinel
 
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Has Merritt ever admitted it was him on the phone to Quick Books considering he rung on his own number?


ETA - maybe he can blame his “wife” she rung quick books on his phone. DK was blackmailing her and she just had to do what he told her to do.
 
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And it states here
(quote)
Merritt then printed and deleted any record of the checks from the QuickBooks ledger, according to the prosecution.
(unquote)
So wasn't the ledger the Contact account? Where JM kept all his personal information in regard to his EIP business?
 
BBM, From what i recall reading Merritt wanted all the quickbooks stuff wiped and deleted.
Yes that's what he testified, but Joey had a different email address for the contact account so it's not clear to me if Merritt only wanted the custom account deleted and Baker assumed that was all the records for that business.

This is another part of testimony:


P: Now if a customer would have more than one account does the customer have to specify which account they’re calling about?

RB: Yes they would.

P: And so is that delineated by email address?

RB: Yes ma’am.

[...]

RB: The caller wanted us to remove all of the business records for the business from our system, they wanted it purged directly from our QB servers, so they could have it removed altogether.

P: And did the caller provide you with any information as to why they wanted that deleted?

RB: No they were just very adamant that they wanted it taken off of our servers.
 
Has Merritt ever admitted it was him on the phone to Quick Books considering he rung on his own number?


ETA - maybe he can blame his “wife” she rung quick books on his phone. DK was blackmailing her and she just had to do what he told her to do.
The QB's rep.'s would of identified a male caller though.
 
Has Merritt ever admitted it was him on the phone to Quick Books considering he rung on his own number?


ETA - maybe he can blame his “wife” she rung quick books on his phone. DK was blackmailing her and she just had to do what he told her to do.
This was what he told DuGal on Feb 17th -


CM: And then talked about QuickBooks…

TD: QuickBooks Online, decided to delete and start QuickBooks Pro 2010, credit card for purchasing QuickBooks,

CM: He gave me the credit card number.

TD: What’s the, do you know his credit card number?

CM: I, you know, I did the QuickBooks Pro, and I threw the credit card, that’s all I needed it for.

[snip]

TD: Was it prior to February 4th?

CM: No, no, no it was 2, 3 or 4 days after February 4th that I actually bought the QuickBooks. Joseph and I sat down and talked about the QuickBooks because Summer um Summer didn’t know how much money Joseph actually made, she never did um and one of, one of Summer’s biggest problems is credit cards I mean she, she was, she spent a lot of money um, she goes to Ross all the time, things like that, so it was, it’s a big thing, it was, it had become a big thing um, with Joseph not letting her know exactly how much money he was making because when she…
 
And it states here
(quote)
Merritt then printed and deleted any record of the checks from the QuickBooks ledger, according to the prosecution.
(unquote)
So wasn't the ledger the Contact account? Where JM kept all his personal information in regard to his EIP business?
Merritt wrote and deleted cheques in the custom account. Joey used the contacts account for cheques and vendors, well everything.
 
This was what he told DuGal on Feb 17th -


CM: And then talked about QuickBooks…

TD: QuickBooks Online, decided to delete and start QuickBooks Pro 2010, credit card for purchasing QuickBooks,

CM: He gave me the credit card number.

TD: What’s the, do you know his credit card number?

CM: I, you know, I did the QuickBooks Pro, and I threw the credit card, that’s all I needed it for.

[snip]

TD: Was it prior to February 4th?

CM: No, no, no it was 2, 3 or 4 days after February 4th that I actually bought the QuickBooks. Joseph and I sat down and talked about the QuickBooks because Summer um Summer didn’t know how much money Joseph actually made, she never did um and one of, one of Summer’s biggest problems is credit cards I mean she, she was, she spent a lot of money um, she goes to Ross all the time, things like that, so it was, it’s a big thing, it was, it had become a big thing um, with Joseph not letting her know exactly how much money he was making because when she…


Chase seemed to do a lot of stumbling almost like he was making up a story as he went along.
 
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