CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #19

[citygirl]

The judge told the jurors he would see them on Monday, the 13th. Maybe the status meeting will take place before the hearing, if at all.

I have this feeling. I think McGee may show. I would if I had been falsely maligned.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I have this feeling. I think McGee may show. I would if I had been falsely maligned.

IF McGee has produced a medical certificate declaring him unfit for work, he doesn't have to show up at court tomorrow, regardless of what others have accused him of doing. I'm thinking the judge already knows that little outburst from Imes was just...well, Imes being spiteful. I guess we will see tomorrow. Whatever the outcome, if there is one, concerning McGee, I hope the PT remain in their seats instead of acting like they've ants in their pants and can't sit still lol. MOO

 

[missy1974]

So no jury tomorrow? I remember Imes requesting a "status meeting" regarding McGee at the earliest Monday.

I thought the judge said... "Uhhhhhh no, we will be back on the 21st" LOL

 

[Karinna]

I hope this Trial is done by Christmas 2019,

 

[citygirl]

IF McGee has produced a medical certificate declaring him unfit for work, he doesn't have to show up at court tomorrow, regardless of what others have accused him of doing. I'm thinking the judge already knows that little outburst from Imes was just...well, Imes being spiteful. I guess we will see tomorrow. Whatever the outcome, if there is one, concerning McGee, I hope the PT remain in their seats instead of acting like they've ants in their pants and can't sit still lol. MOO

Well, maybe not. McGee has thrown a monkey wrench in closing this out. He is calling the shots, IMO. Can't blame the PT for jumping out of their skin. They are ret to go. (in the words of the ugly girl from In Living Color) . MOO.

 

[Karinna]

Well, maybe not. McGee has thrown a monkey wrench in closing this out. He is calling the shots, IMO. Can't blame the PT for jumping out of their skin. They are ret to go. (in the words of the ugly girl from In Living Color) . MOO.

Yeah exactly, can you imagine if the PT were still dithering around with their part in this Trial, LOL.
How long since the PT rested their case? 2 or 3 months?

 

[la2cabo]

I hope this Trial is done by Christmas 2019,

Considering there is less than 20 hours per week of actual productive courtroom time I wouldn't hold your breath:
9:30 am - 12:00 = 2.5
12 - 1:30 pm = lunch
1:30 pm - 4:00 pm = 2.5
4 days per week (at BEST) x 5 hours per day (at BEST) minus "recess" for a total of LESS THAN 20 HOURS PER WEEK! Unfreakingbelievable.

 

[missy1974]

Considering there is less than 20 hours per week of actual productive courtroom time I wouldn't hold your breath:
9:30 am - 12:00 = 2.5
12 - 1:30 pm = lunch
1:30 pm - 4:00 pm = 2.5
4 days per week (at BEST) x 5 hours per day (at BEST) minus "recess" for a total of LESS THAN 20 HOURS PER WEEK! Unfreakingbelievable.

I am not sure there are any days that there were 5 hours of testimony lol Can't even use the video's to add it up because they edit them

 

[katydid23]

Two things Imes has yet to provide: proof that Chase is guilty; proof that McGee is not ill. What does he have? Nothing. Hopefully, he will not scream "objection" to McGee's doctor.

I don't think anyone questions whether or not McGee is ill. The question is, is he too ill to appear in court as CM's attorney?

If he was out partying on Saturday night, when his partner was emailing late reports to the prosecution, then I question McGee's claims that he is too ill to proceed.

If he felt well enough to go out and party, why wasn't he helping his partner finish the reoijts, and/or working on that edit needed for the Cd of the interview?

 

[la2cabo]

I am not sure there are any days that there were 5 hours of testimony lol Can't even use the video's to add it up because they edit them

Between recesses, side bars, bickering, etc. I'm positive there has never been a full 5 hours of testimony in the State vs Merritt trial. I do know that unless we are judges employed by San Bernardino County we're in the wrong line of work. Lol

 

[citygirl]

Between recesses, side bars, bickering, etc. I'm positive there has never been a full 5 hours of testimony in the State vs Merritt trial. I do know that unless we are judges employed by San Bernardino County we're in the wrong line of work. Lol

After all is said and done I hope the jury speaks out. Really curious to know if the length of the trial bothered them? Maybe not since they committed to 3/4 months in the beginning? It's like a grand jury, to me.

 

[la2cabo]

After all is said and done I hope the jury speaks out. Really curious to know if the length of the trial bothered them? Maybe not since they committed to 3/4 months in the beginning? It's like a grand jury, to me.

I'm actually quite impressed that only one juror has had to bow out. To me that speaks to their level of commitment and how serious they take their positions as a jurors in a quadruple murder case. I think we can count on them to come to the same conclusion that most have already come to and hand down a guilty verdict.

 

[citygirl]

I'm actually quite impressed that only one juror has had to bow out. To me that speaks to their level of commitment and how serious they take their positions as a jurors in a quadruple murder case. I think we can count on them to come to the same conclusion that most have already come to and hand down a guilty verdict.

Fingers crossed.

 

[MrsPC]

I sort of expect a "show-down" tomorrow on McGee's drinking & dancing. I can hear it now...."Judge, I emphatically deny that I am faking any sort of illness and I truly cannot handle my defense duties at this time. As for drinking & dancing - it was an alka-selzter I had...and by the way, I had to be escorted to the dance floor with a walker. And I used my cane the entire time I danced the Macarena."

Can you picture it? LOL

 

[wary]

I sort of expect a "show-down" tomorrow on McGee's drinking & dancing. I can hear it now...."Judge, I emphatically deny that I am faking any sort of illness and I truly cannot handle my defense duties at this time. As for drinking & dancing - it was an alka-selzter I had...and by the way, I had to be escorted to the dance floor with a walker. And I used my cane the entire time I danced the Macarena."

Can you picture it? LOL
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Rofl—priceless. No, I’m not losing sight of the seriousness of the occasion, but—might as well laugh.

 

[wary]

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#McStay - Prosecution tells the judge during arguments over Kavanaugh this morning, "There are reasons we didn't call him and those reasons are protected by work product."

This was discussed in the last thread, but I don’t think we had a decisive answer as to what work product meant.

I just ran across this—Nolo.com. Discovery: What and When the Prosecution Must Disclose

Does discovery mean that the prosecution has to reveal its case strategy?

No. Discovery rules generally distinguish between raw information like names of witnesses, police reports, and drug or alcohol test results, and attorney theories and strategies. The latter is called “work product.” Prosecutors don’t have to turn over their work product to defendants—otherwise, it just wouldn’t be fair. Lawyers would be incentivized to hide their work or do less of it

So—they didn’t call DK, and that was part of their trial strategy, which they don’t have to reveal.

 

[Niner]

Monday, May 13th:
*Trial continues (Day 52) (@ 9:30am PT) - CA - McStay Family: Joseph (40), Summer (43), Gianni (4) & Joey Jr (3) (Feb. 4, 2010, Fallbrook; found Nov. 11, 2013) - *Charles "Chase" Ray Merritt aka Charles Ray Mandel aka Charles Ray Morritt aka Chase Meredith (57/now 62) arrested (11/5/14) & indicted (11/7/14) of 4 counts of murder with special circumstance; plead not guilty. DP case.
Trial started 1/7/19. Dark on all Fridays. 7 women & 4 men & 1 ? (alternates include 4 men & 2 women-minus one).
Trial Days (1-50: 1/7/19 thru 5/7/19) reference post #1652 here:
CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #18
5/8/19 Day 51: Judge will allow certain portions of CM’s redacted 2014 interrogation tape related to Feb. 4th & 6th. Jurors viewed CM’s truck in the morning. Jurors back at 1:30pm & when they come back judge said portions of the tape with Merritt will be played. Tape played for jurors. Defense witness: Gary Robinson (Defense investigator). Court adjourned until Monday, May 13, when the defense will finish up with Det. Bachman & show video excerpts from Charles Merritt's police interview. Court will then be dark until Tuesday, May 21.
Schedule for week of May 13th thru May 17th: Court with jurors on May 13th (Monday). Rest of the week dark.
Tentative Schedule for week of May 20th thru May 24th: May 20th (Monday)-NO court. Court with jurors morning only on May 21st (Tuesday), full day of court on May 22nd (Wednesday), May 23rd (Thursday). Dark on May 24th (Friday).

 

[mrjitty]

This was discussed in the last thread, but I don’t think we had a decisive answer as to what work product meant.

I just ran across this—Nolo.com. Discovery: What and When the Prosecution Must Disclose



So—they didn’t call DK, and that was part of their trial strategy, which they don’t have to reveal.

Yes so for instance the prosecution may have developed the theory that DK, discovering the Joey was missing, took his chance to plunder the business, committing potential crimes. In which case, this would inform their belief he would plead the 5th if called.

i think what Daugherty was really getting at, is that the defence want to place before the Jury, the failure of the State to call the witness and to speculate about that.

The Judge didn't allow that. DK is the defence's witness.

 

[mrjitty]

It's interesting whether the Judge would have allowed the DK evidence at all if the defence wasn't producing the Riccobene confession.

DK has a strong alibi and no evidence links him to the murders. At most we have his paypal raids more a week after the disappearance.

The confession is the only thing that places him in the frame

It's also cray that the defence has made so many wild claims about the confession in the Opening - which it now won't substantiate.

I feel the Judge got played

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Actually Merritt's own criminal record proves he's a thief.

One can say he's not a murderer a zillion times but that doesn't make it true.

Exactly.

CM became a MURDERING THEIF just like so many others have done before him. and have done after he murdered the McStay family of 4.

I think its one of the worst motives. This motive is so cold, and calculating to murder anyone for this reason.

That is the very reason 'financial gain/greed' is listed among the required elements that rises murder cases up to the harshest punishment allowed under that state's law. In this CA case of course it's the death penalty.

The state only had to prove ONE element for the death penalty to be a viable option for the jury, and they chose 'multiple murders.'

But they had so many other elements to choose from in this case.

1. Multiple homicide victims.

2. Financial greed/gain Motive.

3. 2 victims are under the age of 12.

4. The quadruple murders were extremely cruel, and heinous.

Jmo