GUILTY CA - Matthew Muller for kidnap, rape of 30yo woman, Vallejo, 2015

[RainCheck]

Wow, just wow! Just finished reading it, glad I did. What an ego!!! He wants credit for his crimes without having to do the time, and he took a guy's Mustang(not the boyfriend), because "the kid deserved to lose his toy"!!! Yet he kept it, what Chutzpah!!! I'd like to let this guy have a piece of my mind. Property crimes are not victimless, nor did I begin to recover the value and sentimentality of my mother's stolen jewelry!!! And he minimizes his crimes by treating his victims "compassionately"! So my big question is, did he act alone, or does he have a couple of accomplices like he alleges?
Oh, and I forgot to add- he reported peeping toms and drug dealers to the police. Like he is so much better??? He may have been a Harvard professor, a lawyer, and a Marine, but he's just a common criminal who is whacked out!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

He's worse than a common criminal because in his mind he's special and not like them at all. The way his mind works is baffling! I'm sure there are many criminal psychologist who would love to get a chance to talk to him. The story is so crazy it sounds like a made up back story for an evil comic book character. Lawyer turned demented "gentleman criminal".

 

[LinasK]

He's worse than a common criminal because in his mind he's special and not like them at all. The way his mind works is baffling! I'm sure there are many criminal psychologist who would love to get a chance to talk to him. The story is so crazy it sounds like a made up back story for an evil comic book character. Lawyer turned demented "gentleman criminal".

He rationalizes his crimes, appears to have sympathy for his victims, but he really doesn't because he raped DH twice, and continued to attack other victims that he broke into. He claims he drove DH to Huntington Beach to get comfort from her family, but I think it was because the heat was on him in Vallejo, and what about the sympathy for her boyfriend whom she was living with?? Vallejo was her home now, not Huntington Beach!

 

[RainCheck]

He rationalizes his crimes, appears to have sympathy for his victims, but he really doesn't because he raped DH twice, and continued to attack other victims that he broke into. He claims he drove DH to Huntington Beach to get comfort from her family, but I think it was because the heat was on him in Vallejo, and what about the sympathy for her boyfriend whom she was living with?? Vallejo was her home now, not Huntington Beach!

I don't think he does anything he doesn't feel also benefits him in some way. It's so bizarre how he says he feels sympathy for DH, not only for what he did to her, but another assault she apparently told him about while she was drugged and probably begging him not to rape her. How can he assault another human being like he did and then turn around and be sympathetic towards their suffering HE CAUSED? He may be crazy but not so crazy he hasn't been able to live and function in society and get away with elaborate crimes. Thank goodness his ego/other voice inside his head, couldn't handle the public not recognizing what he had done to DH and her boyfriend. He needed to be validated and it completely upset him everyone thought the story was made up because that meant they didn't think some amazing criminal was running around getting away with crimes.

 

[LinasK]

I don't think he does anything he doesn't feel also benefits him in some way. It's so bizarre how he says he feels sympathy for DH, not only for what he did to her, but another assault she apparently told him about while she was drugged and probably begging him not to rape her. How can he assault another human being like he did and then turn around and be sympathetic towards their suffering HE CAUSED? He may be crazy but not so crazy he hasn't been able to live and function in society and get away with elaborate crimes. Thank goodness his ego/other voice inside his head, couldn't handle the public not recognizing what he had done to DH and her boyfriend. He needed to be validated and it completely upset him everyone thought the story was made up because that meant they didn't think some amazing criminal was running around getting away with crimes.

He also lied about taking her to Huntington Beach being equidistant- as I posted earlier- Vallejo is less than 3 hours from Tahoe but 7 hours drive from Huntington Beach. Tahoe to Huntington Beach would take 10 hours.

 

[LinasK]

And another thing... he claims DH wasn't his intended victim, Quinn's ex-fiance was, then why rape DH anyway??? Just for the heck of it? She's here, might as well take advantage?:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Inthedetails]

And another thing... he claims DH wasn't his intended victim, Quinn's ex-fiance was, then why rape DH anyway??? Just for the heck of it? She's here, might as well take advantage?:banghead::banghead::banghead:

I'm not so sure I believe the "got the wrong girl" story. I think that was part of the ruse he was playing, to mess with the minds of the two victims and to play-act that he let her off easy because she wasn't the intended target. I don't think he messed up his plan but had that part scripted ahead of time.

JMO.

 

[LinasK]

I'm not so sure I believe the "got the wrong girl" story. I think that was part of the ruse he was playing, to mess with the minds of the two victims and to play-act that he let her off easy because she wasn't the intended target. I don't think he messed up his plan but had that part scripted ahead of time.

JMO.

Well... according to his "manifesto", which is rambling emails, he said he'd been in Quinn's apt. months before and a different girl was living there (true) so he assumed it would be her.:dunno:

 

[Inthedetails]

Well... according to his "manifesto", which is rambling emails, he said he'd been in Quinn's apt. months before and a different girl was living there (true) so he assumed it would be her.:dunno:

Okay, but I still think he knew and it gave him a more interesting "storyline" to follow and make himself look like a good-guy criminal following inaccurate orders. The couple had been a couple for a few months and I'm thinking he's the type to do his homework thoroughly..but maybe the genius mastermind has flaws!

 

[bessie]

ADMIN NOTE: Please snip the victim's name from news articles and use only initials in your posts.

Thanks.

Bessie

:bump:

 

[JerseyGirl]

could there be more women???

officials are looking for possible other victims of the suspect, identified as Matthew Muller, who may have a history of kidnapping women.

http://www.news10.net/story/news/lo...se-huskins-kidnapping-case-timeline/30096439/

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Images of the Vallejo kidnapping sent to San Francisco Chronicle

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Images-of-the-Vallejo-kidnapping-6387422.php#photo-8315544

 

[loveisthemovement]

Someone has to be writing a script out of this... It's incredible. And I am only halfway through the document.

 

[jjenny]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't blame LE for being suspicious at first. This guy is borderline genius. He and his cohorts did everything "right" to cast aspersion to victim M. And who in their right mind would believe that a common kidnapper would be using an anonymizer, recording soothing music, taking vitals, sending emails to the press, marking things with red duct tape and finally having compassion for victim F? Usually, if it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck (we do that here with spousal/baby murders all of the time), and I can see them thinking...NO WAY this happened like they said it did. This was an aberrant.

I am glad the FBI got involved. And I'm truly sorry for not believing the victims in this case. They did go through a ton of trauma during and after.

But shouldn't LE be darn sure before declaring something a hoax? Sounds like the victims went through a horrible ordeal, yet LE declared them liars instead of doing an actual investigation.

 

[jjenny]

I don't get the family. How can they still believe she was kidnapped when the "kidnappers" wanted a payment plan, released her without getting a dime to her mother's house, the bf could give no description of the supposed perps. And the kidnappers sending out emails to clear the victim of any wrongdoing. Crazy. I guess these are truly modern day kidnappers. So polite and responsible and concerned for their "victim." LOL

Maybe because kidnapper appears to have been very smart but mentally ill. So there is no rime or reason to what he was doing.

 

[jjenny]

Lt. Kenny Park appeared visibly upset as he addressed the media Wednesday night and said DH and her boyfriend, Aaron Quinn owe the community an apology. "If you can imagine devoting all of our resource, 24 hours a day, on what I would classify as a wild goose chase, it is a tremendous loss," he said.


http://www.news10.net/story/news/lo...napping-denise-huskins-orchestrated/70478294/

So it wasn't a goose chase, was it? In fact kidnapper allegedly involved in other crimes. Lots of eggs ended up on lots of faces. Did police analyze physical evidence before declaring it hoax? Sounds like they decided it was a hoax before actual investigation was done. It's a disservice to the victims and the community.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

But shouldn't LE be darn sure before declaring something a hoax? Sounds like the victims went through a horrible ordeal, yet LE declared them liars instead of doing an actual investigation.

ITA....and u can bet LE will pay dearly for their wrongful mis-characterization of this couple. I can't believe the public humiliation these two have had to deal with = $$$$$

 

[jjenny]

Not unusual with victims of sexual assault, for a whole bunch of reasons.
Maybe her name should be redacted from this thread? (I will alert my own post).
I'm of the opinion unless it's proven otherwise that the kidnapper acted alone, but created a false narrative about additional people in the room and involved in the plot. Reading the document, aside from what the victims were led to believe and believe they overheard in their panicking and drugged, blindfolded states, I believe everything could have been carried out by one person acting on his own.

I think it's very possible he acted alone. Sounds like he likes to play mind games.

 

[SophieRose]

ITA....and u can bet LE will pay dearly for their wrongful mis-characterization of this couple. I can't believe the public humiliation these two have had to deal with = $$$$$

City of Vallejo filed for bankruptcy protection in 2008 and it was reported last year they might be headed toward a second one. Ironically one of the big problems is pensions, especially those of fire and police; in 2013 all pensions were 18% of the general fund and growing every year.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703625304575115551578762006

The study also found that lavish pay and benefit packages were a root cause of the city's problems. In Vallejo compensation packages for police captains top $300,000 a year and average $171,000 a year for firefighters. Regular public employees in the city can retire at age 55 with 81% of their final year's pay guaranteed. Police and fire officials can retire at age 50 with a pension that pays them 90% of their final year's salary every year for life and the lives of their spouses.

 

[kammiemc]

Actually, the elaborate nature of the whole thing makes it seem realistic, truly.
It does sound like someone with "too much education" of the book kind, not the street kind.
I was watching a show where a man talked about being kidnapped -- his abductor let him go in front of a hospital and apologized in court!
So, the way these kidnappers are acting, doesn't really seem that strange.
But, they also seem like they do some kind of substance...and went to college

Wow, Jane, looks like you called this right! Not just college, Harvard!

 

[kammiemc]

I think it's very possible he acted alone. Sounds like he likes to play mind games.

Honestly, I can't imagine anyone even wanting to partner with him in crime. He seems beyond crazy. (Maybe there are more than one of him in his own head? The kidnappers like an Ocean's 11 gang?)

 

[kammiemc]

I don't find anything wrong with our reaction here. Sorry. The facts of the case were absolutely incredible. The definition of incredible. The story was bizarre and nonsensical and then the "victims" clammed up. But none of us would've said the "ugly" things we said on this thread if it wasn't for the fact that the police told us it was a hoax.

We are supposed to trust LE. They always have more information than us. Coupled with the fantastic facts of this case, I think the majority reaction was totally merited. At the time.

But I have zero problem admitting I'm wrong when the facts show that to be the case. And I was wrong here. I feel bad for this couple and their family, bearing the brunt of a disdainful, mocking and enraged police department and public. This unbelievable story actually did happen and almost no one found them credible. That must've been horrible.

I was not on this site at the time of this event, but, boy, I sure remember it. And I was joining in (in spirit) with the slamming of this couple for what came across as an obvious, and badly done, hoax. It was just so surreal. I feel so bad for them, particularly DH. To have gone through an ordeal like that and come out on the other side not being believed and instead being incriminated, and then being unemployable. Wow. Just wow.

I read that wholllllllllllllle doc. I wonder why the police didn't see any evidence in the dude's rantings that raised their eyebrows in terms of that he actually knew stuff not anyone would know.

Also, for anyone who hasn't read through the doc, DH did say that there were more perps involved than just Matthew and even was able to describe at least a couple of them and a car. It will be interesting to see if there are more arrests coming. The doc was sealed specifically as to not tip off those others being investigated that LE could be on to them.

Sheesh, I've learned a lot from this case. Anything can happen.