CA CA - Mitrice Richardson, 24, Malibu, 17 Sep 2009

[UCLAEigenguy]

I don't think she was actually living out of her car. This is the first time I have seen this mentioned, so I was a little surprised.

About living in the car? I think there are a few articles stating that, but her whereabouts that day do not seem to support it.

It's one thing to have a bottle of wine, thermos with cocktails or beer if your going somewhere to partake, but this was gallons of vodka and other goodies. That why I wondering if this was what she was taking from the vehicle in the parking lot.

Sorry to nitpick, but this is what is confusing me. Where does it mention rummaging through a car? That is news to me as well. Could it have been her own??? Maybe I am misreading something.

She could have taken it from the bar she worked also. Do you ride around with this in your trunk? I don't. I just think it is peculiar it was there

If she stole it, that would be the best bet I'd think. I could see someone riding around with it if they had just bought it and she was going to do some major partying (or is an alcoholic). Even more so if it was a discount store or something. Unfortunately not all of the facts are there like were they dusty or in a bag with a discount store name on it etc.

We have not been told a lot in this case. Nothing of a timeline really. Especially her whereabouts between say 4-6, before the incident. Nothing of who she may have been calling, texting, etc.

Nooope. It is really frustrating. If I could know the answer to just one question in this case, it would be how the heck she got to where she was found. Of course, if I could ask a second one, it would be "what happened?"

Dumb question I should know answer to but don't. Are Latice and Mr. Sutton still married or divorced? Are they living in the same house? TIA

[/QUOTE]

Not 100% sure, pretty sure they're divorced. Michael is referred to as the biological father in a blog post about Mitrice's funeral (he flipped out over something said in a sermon). At the funeral, with Lattice, was another man that spoke (I think his name was Sutton unless that is her maiden name). They do not live in the same house, that I am sure of. Here is the article: http://malibusurfsidenews-blog.blogspot.com/2010/08/biological-father-storms-out-of-mitrice.html

 

[Paulette]

Sorry to nitpick, but this is what is confusing me. Where does it mention rummaging through a car? That is news to me as well. Could it have been her own??? Maybe I am misreading something.

I remember reading somewhere that she was caught in the parking lot of Geoffrey's in an employees car going through his CD's.

I wish every thread had a page where all the articles were stored, then I could find it with ease.

 

[hollyblue]

Sorry to nitpick, but this is what is confusing me. Where does it mention rummaging through a car? That is news to me as well. Could it have been her own??? Maybe I am misreading something.

I remember reading somewhere that she was caught in the parking lot of Geoffrey's in an employees car going through his CD's.

I wish every thread had a page where all the articles were stored, then I could find it with ease.

That's what I was referring to. I don't think she had permission to be in that car....or it doesn't seem so, since no one is coming forward to say so.

 

[hollyblue]

Snipped:

About living in the car? I think there are a few articles stating that, but her whereabouts that day do not seem to support it.

No, I was referring to the alcohol found in the trunk. First time I had read anything about it.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Mitrice! Now the Real Investigation Begins

Sheriff Lee Baca has already publicly stated that his officers acted properly but maybe could have done some things differently. In one section of the report the bartender claimed that 'a customer (Mitrice) ... was "sounding crazy" and possibly on drugs ...' In another section, the report stated, 'In the trunk of Ms. Richardson's car, deputies observed full gallons of vodka, a half-bottle of tequila, and a half-case of beer.' She may not only have been high but somewhat intoxicated. And that may lend some validity to Sutton's lawsuit.

http://newamericamedia.org/2010/08/mitrice-now-the-real-investigation-begins.php

I'm just wondering if she didn't know someone there and they were sneaking alcohol out of this place or maybe that what she was doing in the parking lot in the other car....., but something is hinky here.

Also, <snipped>
Some years ago, Friends Outside, an statewide organization, through one of its local offices, complained to Sybil Brand Institution, a Sheriff's facility for women, that they were releasing women at 12:01 a.m. on their release dates without transportation or a way to their destinations, and that it was a hazardous undertaking. Working with the sheriff's department, it stopped. Women were only released at that time if they had proper transportation to take them away from the facility.
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All the Sheriff's dept had to do is at least release Mitrice to this facility instead, or taken there instead. Me thinks the Malibu Sheriff's office was not on their game at ALL that evening.

 

[MandiJayne]

Also, <snipped>
Some years ago, Friends Outside, an statewide organization, through one of its local offices, complained to Sybil Brand Institution, a Sheriff's facility for women, that they were releasing women at 12:01 a.m. on their release dates without transportation or a way to their destinations, and that it was a hazardous undertaking. Working with the sheriff's department, it stopped. Women were only released at that time if they had proper transportation to take them away from the facility.
<snipped>

All the Sheriff's dept had to do is at least release Mitrice to this facility instead, or taken there instead. Me thinks the Malibu Sheriff's office was not on their game at ALL that evening.

Funny that no one has even mentioned this before now! The whole situation reeks to high heaven. They are morally culpable even if not criminally or civically so. To find out that this had even been a known issue with a suitable resolution makes it even more disgusting to me!!! I sincerely hope those people who could have made a difference but instead showed their indifference by releasing her in an unstable condition without any resources have nightmares every night! If they didn't keep coughing up their, "we didn't do anything wrong" speech, I do not think I would have nearly the amount of hostility towards them. If you make a mistake, just own it. It's not like you can change the situation either way by denying it or claiming it, but it could go a long way in changing the way people are viewing their attitudes of nonchalance.

 

[rossva]

Sybil Brand Institution closed in 1997. They couldn't have sent Richardson there. Not too mention, it was aprox 60 miles away from the Malibu jail.

The Sybil Brand Institute was completed in 1963 as a minimum- to high-security jail and prison for women, and it was the primary Los Angeles County women's correctional facility. Though designed to hold 900, its peak occupancy was 2,800. It was located at 4500 East City Terrace Drive, in Monterey Park, California.

The Sybil Brand Institute is perhaps best known as the jail where Susan Atkins admitted to fellow inmates Virginia Graham and Ronnie Howard that she and other members of the Manson "family" were responsible for the notorious Tate-LaBianca murders. Another noted inmate of this jail and prison was Susan McDougal, of Whitewater scandal fame. In addition, Chelsea Handler, a prominent comedian, was sent to the Sybil Brand Institute based on fraud charges after her sister reported that Chelsea had stolen her I.D. card and had been using it to get into alcoholic beverage establishments.

The buildings of the Sybil Brand Institute suffered extensive damage in the Northridge earthquake in 1994, and that damage caused it to be closed, belatedly and indefinitely, in 1997. Its buildings have yet to be reopened or remodeled due to persistent governmental budget shortfalls affecting both Los Angeles County and the State of California.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_Brand_Institute

Also, <snipped>
Some years ago, Friends Outside, an statewide organization, through one of its local offices, complained to Sybil Brand Institution, a Sheriff's facility for women, that they were releasing women at 12:01 a.m. on their release dates without transportation or a way to their destinations, and that it was a hazardous undertaking. Working with the sheriff's department, it stopped. Women were only released at that time if they had proper transportation to take them away from the facility.
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All the Sheriff's dept had to do is at least release Mitrice to this facility instead, or taken there instead. Me thinks the Malibu Sheriff's office was not on their game at ALL that evening.

 

[hollyblue]

Just wanted to bring the map forward and bump her case up. I did add the LA Probation Center to the map...only as a possibility and for thoughts????

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...4.092473,-118.695259&spn=0.13306,0.21904&z=12

 

[LanieB]

I attended Matrice's candlelight vigil to commemorate the passing of one year since she was last seen. Her mother spoke with such grace and dignity; first, about moving the case forward and finding answers as to why Mitrice died, and secondly to use her daughter's case to change the policy of the Lost Hills Sherrif's Department with releasing inmates out into the rural countryside without cab vouchers or means of transportation.

I am glad that the family has found their daughter. They did express some relief from the horrible anxiety they felt not knowing where she was. Now they want to inform the public that if this could happen to their daughter, it could happen to any of us.

My family lives 10 miles from where Mitrice was found and about 12 miles from the Hucsted family lived in Oxnard.

 

[Betty P]

The LA Sheriff's Dept. admitted to moving the remains of Mitrice Richardson after they were discovered. It was allegedly done w/o the permission of the Coroner's office, though the LASD claims an unnamed representative gave permission.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201010/201010140006.html

Winter also declined to respond to information that when the remains were allegedly illegally moved, not all of the bones were collected at the crime scene, and coroner crews had to return to the site several times, and at each of these times found additional bones, which may have been overlooked or dropped by LASD during its handling of the remains.

The news story also reports that the toxicology reports are in and a final report is expected in the next 2 weeks.

Hopefully, this report will shed some new light on the case and answer some questions. Even the LASD admits the area where Mitrice's body was found was inaccessible to anyone who didn't have special training.

 

[Fairy1]

The LA Sheriff's Dept. admitted to moving the remains of Mitrice Richardson after they were discovered. It was allegedly done w/o the permission of the Coroner's office, though the LASD claims an unnamed representative gave permission.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201010/201010140006.html



The news story also reports that the toxicology reports are in and a final report is expected in the next 2 weeks.

Hopefully, this report will shed some new light on the case and answer some questions. Even the LASD admits the area where Mitrice's body was found was inaccessible to anyone who didn't have special training.

O.M.G. This leads me to believe there is and has been a huge cover-up all along. Shame, shame, shame on them. I hope it all comes out!

 

[Paulette]

Does anyone know how close Mitrice's remains were to the graffiti site?

 

[Betty P]

O.M.G. This leads me to believe there is and has been a huge cover-up all along. Shame, shame, shame on them. I hope it all comes out!

I started out thinking the whole incident was a tragic accident and a case of neglect/incompetence by LASD. That may still be true, but there's something about this case - all the pieces don't fit together like they should. The lack of information from the LASD, their failure to follow up after releasing her, their failure to conduct a real search once she was reported missing, the remote location where her body was found.

Ultimately, it may be proven a tragic accident, but it might be something else.

 

[Fairy1]

The LA Sheriff's Dept. admitted to moving the remains of Mitrice Richardson after they were discovered. It was allegedly done w/o the permission of the Coroner's office, though the LASD claims an unnamed representative gave permission.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201010/201010140006.html



The news story also reports that the toxicology reports are in and a final report is expected in the next 2 weeks.

Hopefully, this report will shed some new light on the case and answer some questions. Even the LASD admits the area where Mitrice's body was found was inaccessible to anyone who didn't have special training.

The more I think about this, the angrier I get! IMO, there was NO reason to move Mitrice other than to hide the crime scene. If that is the case every single LEO from Malibu should be FIRED - NOW! And any LASD personnel working her case should be fired as well.

The toxicology reports will not prove a COD. This beautiful young woman was murdered and it's being covered up. Period.

 

[Betty P]

Coroner says he can't determine cause of death. Report to be released soon.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201010/201010290001.html

Also, more information from local witnesses in this article from yesterday's Malibu Surfside News. BBM

Of particular interest to many following the Richardson case is whether the DOC report can in any way address statements made by some residents in the Calabasas neighborhood where the woman was last seen alive and near where her remains were found.

These residents reported hearing a woman talking to herself at several locations in the area for two days after Richardson was released from Lost Hills. Residents then reported that they heard cries, or screams, for help the night of Sept. 21, 2009, which some of them now think might have been when she was killed.

The residents, whose identity currently is not being disclosed, say they heard a cry for help, then the start of a second cry that was stopped midway as if the person crying out was being muffled or choked.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/20101/201010280001.html

 

[UCLAEigenguy]

This article shows that toxicology testing showed no alcohol or drugs in her system when she died.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201011/201011040001.html

The article states that her remains were found in a location prone to flooding, so it's possible she died at the top of the ridge and was washed down. Or, was running from something near the house.

"[The GPS coordinates they gave put Richardson's remains] about 1000 feet (or less than two-tenths of a mile) from the house at 25575 Piuma, and each item of clothing gets closer and closer to the house, with the belt found about 500 feet from the house."

I imagine it's ok to post the address since it was in the article.

 

[dreamweaver]

This article shows that toxicology testing showed no alcohol or drugs in her system when she died.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201011/201011040001.html

The article states that her remains were found in a location prone to flooding, so it's possible she died at the top of the ridge and was washed down. Or, was running from something near the house.

"[The GPS coordinates they gave put Richardson's remains] about 1000 feet (or less than two-tenths of a mile) from the house at 25575 Piuma, and each item of clothing gets closer and closer to the house, with the belt found about 500 feet from the house."

I imagine it's ok to post the address since it was in the article.

Wow. She is found, but the answers are still not there.

 

[SuziQ]

Can this case get anymore screwed up? WTH?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mitrice-richardson-remains-20101107,0,1664971.story


(snips below and more at the link)
A Los Angeles County coroner's official criticized sheriff's deputies for removing the remains of Mitrice Richardson from a rugged ravine without permission, saying the deputies' actions may have violated the law and undermined the thoroughness of the coroner's investigation.
Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said he was "very clear" with sheriff's officials and could not think of another case in which a police agency had moved entire skeletal remains without coroner's approval.

and

Coroner's investigators, he said, are trained in conducting detailed skeletal recoveries and keeping tabs on minutiae like nearby insect movement that might be factored into later analysis.
When coroner's investigators were taken by helicopter to the area the next day, they could not find the site where the bones were discovered. It wasn't until about two weeks later, he said, when coroner's officials again searched the ravine, that they found several bones left behind by detectives.

 

[cluciano63]

Good grief...this poor family...

 

[Texas Mist]

Can this case get anymore screwed up? WTH?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mitrice-richardson-remains-20101107,0,1664971.story


(snips below and more at the link)
A Los Angeles County coroner's official criticized sheriff's deputies for removing the remains of Mitrice Richardson from a rugged ravine without permission, saying the deputies' actions may have violated the law and undermined the thoroughness of the coroner's investigation.
Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said he was "very clear" with sheriff's officials and could not think of another case in which a police agency had moved entire skeletal remains without coroner's approval.

and

Coroner's investigators, he said, are trained in conducting detailed skeletal recoveries and keeping tabs on minutiae like nearby insect movement that might be factored into later analysis.
When coroner's investigators were taken by helicopter to the area the next day, they could not find the site where the bones were discovered. It wasn't until about two weeks later, he said, when coroner's officials again searched the ravine, that they found several bones left behind by detectives.

I know there are some states where it is law that bodies can't be moved, even to roll them over, until coroner/ME says OK...so I went looking - California is one of those states....this can't be new 'news' to the investigators!

<snip>

This would be a violation of California Government Code 27491.2(b), which states that a dead body "shall not be disturbed or moved from the position or place of death without permission of the coroner or the coroner's appointed deputy. Any violation of this subdivision is a misdemeanor."

The county coroner's office is on record as stating that law enforcement personnel cannot move a body or remains without the express authorization of the coroner's office.

The News also learned that the decision to move the remains was allegedly made by the lead LASD homicide detective on the Richardson case, Michael Rosson. Rosson has not responded to an email from the newspaper requesting a response to the allegation.
...................
Winter stressed that the coroner's department is "independent of the sheriff's department," and added that "the final report will pull no punches" in addressing any problems with procedure or process.

http://malibusurfsidenews.com/stories/201010/201010140001.html