Eloise
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I don’t know didn’t Chris Watts snap?
absolutely not
I don’t know didn’t Chris Watts snap?
Are the other children still in the home with the parents?
Well, that's what he claimed but the evidence showed that he planned the murders. I think it's a common defense, though. ImoI don’t know didn’t Chris Watts snap?
We don’t know but the implication from the medium posts from extended family was that they were still working on it. This is the part of cases that makes me the most mad.To some extent, I get it. But I was in a situation where we, extended family out of state, called in concerns of awful abuse. Kids were removed and isolated from us and one another in institutions for months during investigation. Never make a CPS report without first consulting a lawyer. After the fact, all the lawyers in the world couldn’t speed up the process. We should have come up with a scenario for a visit before calling it in.Are the other children still in the home with the parents?
No way!! I have kids under 9. Believe me!! You would be taking those kids outside. If your neighborhood wasn’t walkable you would drive them to parks and hikes and bike trails - even parking lots. I did all of those things this spring. I took my kids fishing and to parks, beaches, hikes. The rest of the time yes lots of screen time but also lots of yard time and neighborhood walks and bike rides. Did you know in the pandemic it became impossible to get a bike for children or adults for a while? I ran into it! It’s true. People were getting out of their closed quarters when they could. Out of necessity!!If you had 6 kids in an apartment complex and they were all under 9, plus a pandemic, I may not let them outside either. Little kids touch everything !
We don’t know but the implication from the medium posts from extended family was that they were still working on it. This is the part of cases that makes me the most mad.To some extent, I get it. But I was in a situation where we, extended family out of state, called in concerns of awful abuse. Kids were removed and isolated from us and one another in institutions for months during investigation. Never make a CPS report without first consulting a lawyer. After the fact, all the lawyers in the world couldn’t speed up the process. We should have come up with a scenario for a visit before calling it in.![]()
No way!! I have kids under 9. Believe me!! You would be taking those kids outside. If your neighborhood wasn’t walkable you would drive them to parks and hikes and bike trails - even parking lots. I did all of those things this spring. I took my kids fishing and to parks, beaches, hikes. The rest of the time yes lots of screen time but also lots of yard time and neighborhood walks and bike rides. Did you know in the pandemic it became impossible to get a bike for children or adults for a while? I ran into it! It’s true. People were getting out of their closed quarters when they could. Out of necessity!!
Also, they didn't live in an apartment complex and there is a big back yard for the kids to run around in.No way!! I have kids under 9. Believe me!! You would be taking those kids outside. If your neighborhood wasn’t walkable you would drive them to parks and hikes and bike trails - even parking lots. I did all of those things this spring. I took my kids fishing and to parks, beaches, hikes. The rest of the time yes lots of screen time but also lots of yard time and neighborhood walks and bike rides. Did you know in the pandemic it became impossible to get a bike for children or adults for a while? I ran into it! It’s true. People were getting out of their closed quarters when they could. Out of necessity!!
I can’t get past the lack of recent photos and the police chief stating NONE of the children were seen in Cal City. Those poor kids.Also, they didn't live in an apartment complex and there is a big back yard for the kids to run around in.
I would think the kids would be asking and pleading to go outside if the parents tried to keep them inside all the time.
Did the extended family say that the children were still in the state's care? I got the impression that they were with them since they said they were trying to protect and shield them from all that has happened. I only read their first statement, though. Is there another one?We don’t know but the implication from the medium posts from extended family was that they were still working on it. This is the part of cases that makes me the most mad.To some extent, I get it. But I was in a situation where we, extended family out of state, called in concerns of awful abuse. Kids were removed and isolated from us and one another in institutions for months during investigation. Never make a CPS report without first consulting a lawyer. After the fact, all the lawyers in the world couldn’t speed up the process. We should have come up with a scenario for a visit before calling it in.![]()
bbmAgree again. The more outside the better lately. Hiking, playing games. Staying inside, is a bad idea if people are crowded with "rambunctious" children.
Might be wrong but I think they were still struggling with it. As I did in a similar scenario.Did the extended family say that the children were still in the state's care? I got the impression that they were with them since they said they were trying to protect and shield them from all that has happened. I only read their first statement, though. Is there another one?
I didn't hear him mention the other kids at all in the most recent video, unless I missed it. The only time I remember him saying they were in protective custody was a month ago in the first statement to the media.No, they are in protective custody and the parents are staying "somewhere in B'field" according to Jon Walker.
Actually I think we're in agreement; but we're coming at this case from different perspectives ?
I'm not saying corporal punishment is fine.
However-- and this is speculation -- what IF someone(s) lost their schizzle and crossed a line ?
It seems like some event precipitated Orrin and Orson's 'vanishing'.
So what happened ?
My first guess was that they've been gone for a while now -- and some family get together (Christmas) was coming up where their absence would be noticed ?
Or like I said -- someone lost patience and a coverup ensued.
What I don't think happened is : that they weren't being looked after and wandered off; or that an abductor has them.
Which leaves few alternatives that are hopeful.
I think by now LE have spoken to the person(s) in charge of the older kids while they were on their 'vacation', as the adoptive dad put it.
Odd wording, imo.
MOO.
Also, they didn't live in an apartment complex and there is a big back yard for the kids to run around in.
I would think the kids would be asking and pleading to go outside if the parents tried to keep them inside all the time.
Snipped for focusUnless I'm misunderstanding you, we are definitely not in agreement. I don't believe someone lost their shizzle and that's certainly not a legal defense. A person can say they snapped or lost it, but we as a society, according to our laws, don't care. If you hurt someone, for whatever reason, unless it was self defense, it was a crime. In the case of these babies, there was nothing they could possibly do, to warrant being murdered or fatally harmed.
Yes, but the house they were referring to was the one they lived in at the time. They said the kids were not allowed on the dirt and they tried to stay inside. They didn't mention whether or not the kids went outside when they lived at their old apartment. ImoUnless I'm misunderstanding you, we are definitely not in agreement. I don't believe someone lost their shizzle and that's certainly not a legal defense. A person can say they snapped or lost it, but we as a society, according to our laws, don't care. If you hurt someone, for whatever reason, unless it was self defense, it was a crime. In the case of these babies, there was nothing they could possibly do, to warrant being murdered or fatally harmed.
They did to live in an apartment complex. The family have only been in that house 3 months. Before that, they lived in an apartment in Bakersfield.
Finally!"Cal City Police Chief Jon Walker confirmed the Wests were asked to take the test, the day after the couple reported 3-year-old Orson and 4-year-old Orrin West missing."
But did they take the test? It says the tests were requested but didn't say they cooperated.
"Authorities confirm that a polygraph test was requested from Trezell and Jaqueline West, the adoptive parents of the toddler brothers reported missing in California City on Dec. 21."
https://www.turnto23.com/news/local...-city-boys-adoptive-parents-officials-confirm