Since the chief noted in the long Bayan interview that the last sightings by non parents were by grandma and another source and both were in Bakersfield, I decided to do a little sleuthing there.
There was a crime involving a white van a few months ago. The location will be familiar to those following YTers but white vans are a dime a dozen. I can’t tell from this tv image if it’s as big as the West’s.
But seeing this and another nearby shooting and gang arrest in the spring, it did get me pondering another potential theory. Could the babies have been shot in gang violence and the whole family was threatened/scared into silence?
Seems unlikely, but just tossing it out there.
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Thanks for your post
@MoeInVA. Very interesting theory. I suppose anything’s possible at this point.
LE doesn’t seem to be handling this case as a random abduction or kids walking/running out of yard and got lost near the home. They can’t even confirm/place the boys in the backyard- boys scent not found anywhere outside the home, so......
I had previously considered the boys never made it to Cal City, but the other 4 children saying they saw O & O on the 19th, if true, kinda throws a wrench into the boys disappearing prior to the move to Cal City.
I thought about how the only way I could see O & O still being alive is if they were sold/trafficked, and AP’s aren’t coming clean due to the “powers that be” within the trafficking network threatening to do serious harm to them and/or their other children if TW/JW exposed them/their network. This scenario is way down my list of probabilities, but not completely out of the question as we know it can and does happen in real life, albeit with less frequency than children who go “missing” due to neglect/abuse by someone(s) that’s supposed to protect and love them most, like we see over and over again here on WS.
I do get a sense the AP’s know more than they are saying, and I’m leaning more toward something happened to the boys due to neglect/physical abuse by one or both parents, and possibly someone else in familial circle knows what happened, maybe parents confided in someone?, and they aren’t coming forward due to protecting parent(s), vs. the boys being sold. Idk, but have a feeling whatever happened, it’s possible other people know and it’s being covered up, especially with the knowledge now that various people have been asked to take LDT.
If O & O left the home with parents and the other children on the 19th without neighbor’s camera picking them up getting into van, all went shopping then to Grandma’s to drop off other kids, O & O could have been handed off to someone after dropping other kids off at Grandma’s, so handed off either that night, the 19th, or anytime from the evening of the 19th up until they were reported missing on the 21st. It’s possible but lower probability. Or more probable, is something happened to the boys inside of the home (neglect/abuse) between arriving home on the 19th up until they were reported missing on the 21st.
If either of the above scenarios happened, the question remains, why would the parents report the boys missing? Well as we know, plenty of other parent’s have reported their children “missing” after something nefarious they did, due to knowing they will have to produce the child/children at some point. It’s not easy to hide children, at some point someone is going to be asking about them/to see them. Even though they know the spotlight will be directly on them, how could they possibly think they can get away with it? Well dumb criminals do dumb things all the time. we see it over and over again that they fail to cover their tracks as well as the think they did. Some think they are smarter than everyone including LE, and that everyone will just buy the narrative they are selling and eventually it will all go away. Fortunately most are caught in the end due to their arrogance and stupidity.
Anyhoo, if not sold, and boys perished inside the home between the 19th-21st due to some sort of parental neglect/abuse, what did they do with the bodies in such a short period of time?
With all that said, I’m still not 100% convinced that the boys were seen on the 19th by anyone, as LE has confirmed only that Trezelle
claimed all 6 children left the home on the 19th to go shopping, and that neighbor’s video surveillance showed only 4 kids getting into the van, and only TW and JW getting out of van upon returning home, and that the other 4 children said they last saw O & O on the 19th, but there’s an outside (slim?) chance the other 4 kids were coached to say they last saw the kids on the 19th. Idk who interviewed them, special forensic police investigator?/cps child advocate investigator?, and whether they would be able to tell if the kids were coached.
I’m sure LE would have checked out TW’s story and if he really left the home on the 19th with 6 kids, 2 of whom didn’t show up on camera either getting into or exiting the van, O & O should have been picked up on surveillance cameras in the store, if not, LE isn’t releasing that info. At the same time, seems if O & O weren’t caught on store CCTV, would have blown TW’s story out of the water and someone has some explaining to do. Unless one of the parents stayed in the van with O & O while others went into the store shopping. Same if one of them stayed in the van with O & O while the other brought the 4 kids in to Grandma’s when they dropped them off, so any surveillance cameras outside Grandma’s wouldn’t have picked them up on surveillance at Grandma’s either if they stayed in van with parent.
It’s hard when we don’t know what other info LE knows and not releasing, but I respect they have to keep it close to the vest to protect the integrity of their investigation.
Sorry for the long and rambling post, I have so many thoughts running through my head.
Ugh this case.
All of the above IMHO