CA CA - Quartz Hill, WhtFem UP4348, 17-23, in creek bed, possible name Cathy, Mar'81

[Bit of hope]

I was also thinking about her name could be Ekaterina....no matches found

 

[Romulus]

Old newspaper articles from officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestig...291-Unidentified-Female-Found-1981-California

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AAIBAJ&pg=6347,140324&dq=sunset-murders&hl=en

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&pg=6763,6687559&dq=sunset-murders&hl=en

https://news.google
.com/newspapers?id=wW8RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=XuIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5738,5982810&dq=sunset-strip-slayings&hl=en


and an old article

MASS KILLER'S LOVER ADMITS 2 SLAYINGS SAYS SHE SHOT MAN, DECAPITATED CORPSE
Miami Herald, The (FL) - Wednesday, May 4, 1983
Author: UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL

In a surprise confession, a lover of Sunset Slayer Douglas Clark has admitted decapitating her former sweetheart and killing a prostitute.

Carol Mary Bundy, 40, a vocational nurse from suburban Burbank, tearfully pleaded guilty to two first-degree murder counts moments before her trial was to begin.

She had previously pleaded innocent and innocent by reason of insanity to charges she shot and decapitated her former lover, John Robert Murray, in 1980, and that she helped Clark kill a still-unidentified prostitute.

Murray was shot to death by Bundy, who told officers "it's really fun to do." She decapitated his body with a boning knife so police could not trace the bullet. The head has never been found.

She once told investigators she was "sort of half-way in love" with Murray, but decided to kill him to make sure he did not testify against Clark, her live-in lover.

Bundy was also charged with helping Clark kill a prostitute whose skeleton was found in a rural canyon in 1981.

Clark, 34, a former factory worker from Burbank, was sentenced in March to die for the murders of six young women. Prosecutors said some of the killings involved necrophilia, and the head of one victim was kept at Clark's home in a freezer.

Bundy, who testified against Clark, will be sentenced May 31. She faces terms of 52 years to life.

If this girl was really a prostitute is likely that no one has even denounced his disappearance; how many girls bicker with their parents, they go out of the house, maybe they end up involved with a gang, without the same family do not know anything more? and maybe out of pride they do not even want to know anything more children? I know it is a sad reality, but it happens often.

 

[Dr.Strangelove]

I was also thinking about her name could be Ekaterina....no matches found

Wait did I miss something? Why Ekaterina

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[Romulus]

Wait did I miss something? Why Ekaterina

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A Russian variant of Cathy name

 

[Dr.Strangelove]

A Russian variant of Cathy name

Oooooooh ok thank you haha

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[Romulus]

Cathy Marie Moulton missing from Maine since 24 September 1971?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moulton_cathy.html

 

[Bit of hope]

Bumping :cuckoo:

 

[Romulus]

I double checked the profile of this case to see if along with the remains had also found the head or the skull in order to make possible in the future if a facial reconstruction; by Namus data seem to you, we hope that sooner or later you can do.

 

[Bit of hope]

Cathy Marie Moulton missing from Maine since 24 September 1971?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moulton_cathy.html

I'm not sure wouldn't they have noticed that there were 4 eyeteeth removed in our Cathy Jane Doe? Of course we don't know what the state of the skeleton was and if there were any teeth left..... I really think that out Cathy girl was more likely to be a runaway, trying to survive on the "street". Concluding that Cathy Wilcox http://www.nampn.org/cases/wilcox_kathy.html would be a more likely candidate.... :thinking: See my earlier post with the stats compared.

 

[Romulus]

I'm not sure wouldn't they have noticed that there were 4 eyeteeth removed in our Cathy Jane Doe? Of course we don't know what the state of the skeleton was and if there were any teeth left..... I really think that out Cathy girl was more likely to be a runaway, trying to survive on the "street". Concluding that Cathy Wilcox http://www.nampn.org/cases/wilcox_kathy.html would be a more likely candidate.... :thinking: See my earlier post with the stats compared.

Yes her is a good candidate;you submitted a match

http://www.doenetwork.org/forms/index.php/945274?lang=en

 

[Bit of hope]

Yes her is a good candidate;you submitted a match

http://www.doenetwork.org/forms/index.php/945274?lang=en

You know by now that the CA LE is a very ''closed fort" but I will try to put her there anyway....if I have checked every thing known on the DNA etc. and if she is not really ruled out at, this time...pffff.

 

[Romulus]

Romulus, according to Catherine Lynne Sjoberg
Stats are totaly ok. Also she seems to have a slight overbite. She has had a broken collarbone...I wonder if you can see that on a skeleton? Only the story sounds strange, from a prom ball ending up in LA as a prostitute...but stranger things have happened. If case file on namus found on 2 march is this Cathy Jane Doe, than they can only do a check on the dental information, because this UID DNA is insufficient to use.

From the Namus missing persons file

65.0 - 165,1cm
115.0 to125.0
There is dental information, also DNA

• 
  [*=center]Date Of Birth: January 15, 1957
  [*=center]Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old 22 years in 1980
  [*=center]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5" (165 cm); UID between 5’2” – 5’5”
  [*=center]115-125 lbs (54 kg)
  [*=center]Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair long and straight and parted in the middle; green eyes. Freckles on cheeks.
  [*=center]Marks, Scars: Both ears pierced. Catherine broke her collar bone at the age of 14.
  [*=center]Clothing: A light blue flowered prom dress, a corsage and high heeled shoes. She was wearing a gold chain and a gold pin.
  [*=center]AKA: Cathy
  [*=center]Dentals:Not Available
  [*=center]DNA: Available

​

I submitted this profile in Doe Network match section for this UID

 

[Romulus]

Doe Network update the link case page

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1363ufca.html

Date of Discovery: March 2, 1981
Location of Discovery: Quartz Hill, Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: 2 months - 2 years prior
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Homicide by gunshot
[h=2]Physical Description[/h]Estimated Age: 16-25 years old
Race: White
Sex: Female
Height: 5'3"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: High forehead; small boned, slight build.
[h=2]Identifiers[/h]Dentals: Available. Lower right side molar missing; upper left side molar missing. Slight overbite.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Insufficient DNA for profiling
[h=2]Clothing & Personal Items[/h]Clothing: No clothing located, but possibly wore a maroon sweater-type dress, with a white bolero jacket over it. Little red hearts or flowers on the dress. White cowboy boots. (Clothing described by suspects.)
Jewelry: None.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown.
[h=2]Circumstances of Discovery[/h]The victim was located 9/10 of a mile East of Bouquet Canyon Road, on Artesian Springs Road, Quartz Hill, CA. She is a victim of the Sunset Murders.
The suspects picked the victim up near the intersection of Highland and Franklin streets, in Hollywood, CA. She allegedly said her name was "Cathy." The victim was shot, and the remains found strewn along a riverbed in a very remote area.
Other victims of this span of murders include 1322UFCA.
[h=2]Investigating Agency(s)[/h]Agency Name: Los Angeles County Coroner
Agency Contact Person: Daniel Machian
Agency Phone Number: 323-343-0512
Agency E-Mail: dmachian(at)coroner.lacounty.gov
Agency Case Number: 813004
Agency Name: Los Angeles County Homicide Unit
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 323-890-5500
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: Jane Doe #28; 81-02512-1156-011
NCIC Case Number: U770525570
NamUs Case Number: 4348
Former Hot Case Number: 1157
[h=2]Information Source(s)[/h]NamUs
Los Angles County Coroner
LASD

 

[Bit of hope]

So sad. Per Namus:

DNA: Complete - Insufficient DNA for profiling @@@grrrr#$

 

[Bit of hope]

I submitted this profile in Doe Network match section for this UID

And nothing? No reaction?

 

[Romulus]

And nothing? No reaction?

Nothing, sad! probable is ruled out!

 

[Bit of hope]

Nothing, sad! probable is ruled out!

I have the motivation to search until I can't search anymore, but there is so little help from the CA government or LE, even the Namus contacts....not given anything away, policy of CA according to their site: talk to the public, but they don't.. I don't know the law in CA about privacy..some states and country's are different like The Netherlands and Canada, and that is in a away totally ok...not exposing a lot about missing persons....You have the right to disappear...If had wanted this I wouldn't like everything spilled out about my life either....

 

[Romulus]

Look Bit of Hope, I do not know how privacy laws work in the US, but I remember that Carl had asked for photos for another case that had a recognizable face (this https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...6-20-30-drug-overdose-maybe-name-Patty-Dec-75), and he was not given permission to have them.

 

[Bit of hope]

Am I paranoid? I'm sure I posted something here....but it's gone.....!

 

[MelmothTheLost]

So sad. Per Namus:

DNA: Complete - Insufficient DNA for profiling @@@grrrr#$

I'm somewhat surprised by this as DNA can often be extracted from teeth even if it has degraded in bone, since the teeth are effectively a closed capsule protected from the environment.