Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #20 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

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Wow. That article has made my heart skip a beat. Holding my breath until identity is made.

I think of Sierra and her family often, and have followed here since the beginning. This is the case where I discovered websleuths, even tho this is my first post on this thread.
 
I hope it is Sierra

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MHPD investigates body found in business park
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news...cle_13602cc4-f4e3-11e4-99f1-af5310ce3727.html

photo & more at link.

This link is no longer working. I ran a google search and found this.

This isn't Sierra.
:candle:

Morgan Hill: Landscape worker finds body in field | abc7news.com

MORGAN HILL, Calif. (KGO) --A landscape worker found a body of an adult male in a Morgan Hill field Thursday morning, a police sergeant said.
http://abc7news.com/news/landscape-worker-finds-body-in-morgan-hill-field/703281/

My heart goes out to this man's family.
:rose:


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Sadly, I think he put her in a dumpster, and she ended up in the landfill. Ironically, the way landfills work, her remains would be quite preserved. However, I don't know if there are any means to escavate through that. Highly unlikely I would think.
 
Sadly, I think he put her in a dumpster, and she ended up in the landfill. Ironically, the way landfills work, her remains would be quite preserved. However, I don't know if there are any means to escavate through that. Highly unlikely I would think.

You and I have been in agreement about that since way back -- his connection to where he worked... the "mothership" as you aptly described.
My instinct says he left her purse in the field by the metal shed either deliberately or instinctively as a ruse to keep LE searching the fields and streams...
So sad to think about her young life taken like it was... cannot imagine or even understand this kind of evil. Thank goodness there are good people like you Rose in the world.
 
Articles says adult male now. I don't want Sierra to be dead, but given the evidence they have, it would be an absolute blessing to find her.


She was kidnapped at the beginning of the day, he had no place to restrain her as he lived in a small space with his wife, mother and daughter. So whatever he did to her was done someplace he didn't have full control over, but presumably where he had little chance of someone coming across him. Why would he bring her back to potential witnesses and CCTV to put her in a safeway dumpster?
 
Sadly, I think he put her in a dumpster, and she ended up in the landfill. Ironically, the way landfills work, her remains would be quite preserved. However, I don't know if there are any means to escavate through that. Highly unlikely I would think.

It's very difficult, but they can and have done so in other cases, like Lori Hacking's- if they know what day and where the trash pickup was, the dump is usually organized by quadrant.
 
My mind still keeps going back to that comment the monsters wife (or is she his girlfriend?) made on Facebook about Sierra, suggesting and leading to speculation that perhaps the monster was cheating on her with Sierra. It just always stuck out to me how cold and callous this woman was about what was and still is a missing 15 year old girl! JMO. What do you guys think?


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My mind still keeps going back to that comment the monsters wife (or is she his girlfriend?) made on Facebook about Sierra, suggesting and leading to speculation that perhaps the monster was cheating on her with Sierra. It just always stuck out to me how cold and callous this woman was about what was and still is a missing 15 year old girl! JMO. What do you guys think?


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Yes, early on the media and many others noted the unbelievable vitriol coming from his wife. I have long believed the wife and mother know where Sierra was dumped. The wife, in particular, is highly suspect IMO. But for all we know, she might have ratted on him in the end.
 
Yes, early on the media and many others noted the unbelievable vitriol coming from his wife. I have long believed the wife and mother know where Sierra was dumped. The wife, in particular, is highly suspect IMO. But for all we know, she might have ratted on him in the end.
My feeling is she knew he killed her, but they didn't want to know what he did with her... if he did tell, I feel he would lie; figuring if she goes and tells LE, they would find nothing and it would discredit anything else she mentioned.... along that line, he may have told her he went fishing at the time of the disappearance and she mentioned that to LE when initially questioned about his whereabouts (remember all the water searching that was done) when in fact he did not go fishing .
 
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So, now it looks the next court hearing is May 13th, instead of May 4th, which of course has pasted... :gaah:

What is taking so long... Defense drawing this out??

I'll be back on the 13th and will "see" what happens then! :wave:
 
(knock knock) can i be one of those people we hate (notice i said we :D) and ask for the cliff notes version of this case? i'm following about 20, strike that, 40 right now and noticed when doing some research for some other cases that this case has a status hearing upcoming this week and has been ongoing since 2012 and this is the 19th, strike that, 20th thread fgs and now curiosity has gotten the better of me (as usual)....

and if that sentence wasn't long enough i'll take a deep breath and keep going :)......i hate asking this and i always hate when others ask this because i'm usually the one doing my own research so forgive me please but i'm waist deep in cases right now....

ok i'll stop now and rely on the kindness of websleuthers (please don't roll your eyes as you respond :giggle:)
:tyou:
 
borndem said:
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California's death row -- the largest in the country -- is expanding beyond the capacity of San Quentin State Prison to hold it. In response, Governor Jerry Brown has proposed a $3.2 million expenditure to make about 100 new cells available to incarcerate death row inmates.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/cate...tes/california

:gaah: Why expand?? :waitasec: They have been sentenced to "death" - let's do it for cripes sake!! There are 754 men there on death row...
 
(knock knock) can i be one of those people we hate (notice i said we :D) and ask for the cliff notes version of this case? i'm following about 20, strike that, 40 right now and noticed when doing some research for some other cases that this case has a status hearing upcoming this week and has been ongoing since 2012 and this is the 19th, strike that, 20th thread fgs and now curiosity has gotten the better of me (as usual)....

and if that sentence wasn't long enough i'll take a deep breath and keep going :)......i hate asking this and i always hate when others ask this because i'm usually the one doing my own research so forgive me please but i'm waist deep in cases right now....

ok i'll stop now and rely on the kindness of websleuthers (please don't roll your eyes as you respond :giggle:)
:tyou:

Okay - let's see what I can do... :D

Sierra was walking to her school bus stop from home, when she disappeared. Or I believe she did reach her bus stop, which was just around the corner from her house and was waiting for the bus, as I believe some people driving by had seen her on previous days waiting for her bus. Her purse was found by an abandoned shack and I believe her phone was found off another street in an open field. (I'll see if I can find the map on where things were found.)
They have Torres seen on video driving by the area she went missing. He said he was fishing. They found Sierra's DNA in his car, and I believe that is why they arrested him.
If someone else want to go into more detail - be my guest! LOL!
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edited to add: here's a map of where her home, bus stop and phone where found:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...4,0.030041&z=14&mid=zqQF6cy7x7Lw.kLHVcDRkhmFs
 
My feeling is she knew he killed her, but they didn't want to know what he did with her... if he did tell, I feel he would lie; figuring if she goes and tells LE, they would find nothing and it would discredit anything else she mentioned.... along that line, he may have told her he went fishing at the time of the disappearance and she mentioned that to LE when initially questioned about his whereabouts (remember all the water searching that was done) when in fact he did not go fishing .

I have a feeling she knows.. Andrhey may use it as a den fence for him when it comes to trial.. Stating he and the victim had some sort of relationship,(involved with an older man etc) yet the girlfriend\wife found out when this all came out in the news yet still chooses to "stand by her man" so to speak. What do you guys think?


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QueenBee - here's a timeline compiled by askfornina on one of the back threads:

Timeline

Timeline is current as of 5amCT March 21st. The Nancy Grace transcript was not yet available online at the time of this post.

Saturday, March 17, 2012:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/...ng-teen/nLWgf/

March 17 More @ link

"We've flown most of these fields, as far as the eye can see in this direction, all the way up to the foothills on the west side as well," said San Jose Sheriff Sgt. Brett Moore.

Working off her scent, police dogs have traced Sierra's half mile long walk to her bus stop, but the trail goes cold beyond her driveway, suggesting she was picked up. http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/morg...-co-for/vGZ6t/

March 17 From video @ link:

Marlene Lamar: I talked to her, said goodbye, and gave her a hug. and things were- were good. And I told her I loved her.

Marlene Lamar: I can't believe that she would not contact her friends and let them know that she's okay and- and do this. She would never want us to go through all this pain.

Steve Lamar: Come home, baby. Please come home. You're not in trouble. Everyone-everyone wants to see you.


Sunday, March 18, 2012

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/invest...n-hill-/nLXFk/

March 18 more @ link

The ground and air search is finished in Morgan Hill for now, unless new leads develop.

Detectives said they are turning their attention to interviews with Sierra's friends. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video/#!/n...Girl/143284416

March 18 From video @ link:

Marlene: It's really hard.

We gave each other a big hug goodbye and said we loved each other. And she's been in a great mood.

Reporter: Lamar says she didn't suspect anything was wrong until 6 o'clock Friday night about 12 hours after Sierra left. Staff at Sobrato High school emailed her to tell her Sierra hadn't been to any of her classes.

Marlene: I wasn't happy when I was notified that late.

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/frem...-former/vGbDr/

March 18 From video @ link:

Danielle Lamar (Sierra's sister): Sierra has a lot of friends down there that she still keeps in contact with.

Danielle Lamar: She's always in contact with family, friends, and she wouldn't leave everyone out of the loop.

Friend of Sierra: Like, I hung out with her last week. She was happy and she celebrated my birthday with me and we were all-she's full of energy, yeah.

Marlene Lamar: We don't understand what is going on. It doesn't make sense.

Marlene Lamar: We're hoping, you know. We're hoping that- that she's alive and that's the most important thing right now.

Monday, March 19, 2012

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...143104226.html

March 19 more @ link

The Santa Clara Sheriff's Office is asking for the public's help in locating a missing Morgan Hill teenager who was last seen leaving for school Friday morning.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...143347556.html

March 19 From video @ Link:

Q: There is no way she could have run away?

Marlene: I don't think so. I don't think so. Even though, I wish it was. Um, and I would, you know, I'd- come back home, I love you very much, you're not in trouble.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...rgan-hill-girl

March 19

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8587464

March 19 From video @ link:

Danielle Lamar: I don't know. It's just not like her. Doing this for this long..

Marlene Lamar: When I gave her a hug goodbye that morning she was happy and excited about writing an English paper that she was doing research on the night before and she was telling her sister about it and everything so- her mood was positive.

Danielle Lamar: I just have a hard time believing that she wouldn't tell me anything if she was planning something.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8587192

March 19 From video @ link:

Marlene Lamar: I'm just worried. I'm worried for her and she has- she has asthma and she-she doesn't have her inhaler and I just want her to be safe.

Danielle Lamar: I just can't imagine Sierra would be gone for this long unless it was against her will.

Marlene Lamar: I love you so much Sierra and your family and your friends are really worried about you.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...rticle-8586615

March 19 more @ link

Investigators in Santa Clara County are going door-to-door of sexual predators looking for a missing girl.

15-year-old Sierra LaMar left her Morgan Hill home last Friday morning and didn't show up for school. There are 55 registered sex offenders in the Morgan Hill zip code alone under Megan's Law. The sexual assault unit is talking to those people as well as others in South San Jose to make sure that no one on that list is a possible suspect in Sierra's disappearance.
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

March 19 From video @ link:

Deborah Padilla, Sobrato Principal: Well, I brought this out because I wanted to make sure we could get a picture of her on camera in case you didn't have it. And um, what I'd like to say is that our school community is working very hard to locate Sierra. We want to find her safe and bring her back home. Some of our students and our community members were out yesterday helping with the search, and we're continuing to post flyers, and work with our community to help to bring her back safe and sound.

Q: As an administrator, what does this- what kind of toll does this take on you personally?

Deborah Padilla: It is devastating for me any time we have any type of student in any type of dangerous situation. And, whenever a student is missing it's obviously extremely dangerous. It makes my heart sink and I just want her to be brought back safe.

Q: Have students come to you or anyone in the office or counselors "we found out about this-we heard this, we heard that"- any information coming from the students?

Deborah Padilla: We've actually been working with the Sheriffs department all weekend and they have been working with our families and with the family of Sierra to try to get as much information as possible from friends and acquaintances. We're continuing that today. We have encouraged all of our students- if they have any information, even if they don't think it might be very important, to come up and let us know so then we can follow up on any lead that we might have.

Q: (INAUDIBLE)

Deborah Padilla: In Morgan Hill, we have two systems to notify parents. Our parents have whats called a home access center where they have real time access to attendance so they can see whether or not their child is in school that day. We also have a phone dialer that goes out in the evening as another way to notify parents.

Q: Is that how her mother found out that she didn't go to school or?

Deborah Padilla: I have not talked to the family. Sorry, I'm not sure about that.

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Sgt. Jose Cardoza: Because we didn't receive any new information since her disappearance, what we are concentrating on today is interviewing- uh,
re interviewing family, school personnel, as well as students here at the school. Our investigators are out here this morning actually talking and conducting some of those interviews. The updated information that we do have at this time is that there was a cellphone that was located about a half mile away from Sierra's house Saturday evening, about 7pm. We have confirmed that that cell phone does belong to Sierra. So, we're doing some forensics on that cell phone, trying to get any information that we can off of that cell phone as well as her laptop. We do have her laptop that we are doing some forensics on as well. She does have a Facebook account and a twitter account, unfortunately there has been no activity on any of those social network accounts since her disappearance.

Uh, so again, this is a missing persons case. So we'll just rely on information as it comes in, and uh, directing our resources toward that.

Q: Since she is a minor, why wouldn't an Amber Alert be issued?

Sgt. Jose Cardoza: Uh, because we don't have anything suspicious to confirm that there was a crime. Usually an Amber Alert is um, when we have an abduction, or, you know, we can confirm that there was a crime on top of the actual missing- you know, disappearance. We don't have that at this time. So, it's-you know- we don't want to- we need more information before we can lean in that direction.

Q: Can you talk a little bit about the Fremont connection and her previous life- peer groups, etc?

Sgt. Jose Cardoza: We can. That information that we do know- she was new to Sobrato high. Uh, I believe in October. October of last year, 2011, is when she transferred over to Sobrato. Prior to that she was a student at Washington High school, in the city of Fremont. We are working with the Fremont officials, specifically at Washington High school, for any information. At this time we can't confirm if she may be in that area or not.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...high-schooler/

March 19 From video @ link:

Marlene Lamar: We have to be. There is no other way to be right now, you know, just keep our faith and keep praying.

Marlene Lamar: I was more worried when I heard that because she's attached to the cell phone. That cell phone is attached to her hip. So- I got even more worried.

Danielle Lamar: Me and my sister, we're really close. And so, it's definitely hard. And like, each day it's harder because it makes it more real.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...high-schooler/

March 19 more @ link

Cardoza said that while investigators have found no signs of foul play, they have also not seen signs that are common in a runaway situation.

According to Cardoza, there have been no fights at home or any sign that Lamar was unhappy.

“Everything was status quo at home,” he said. http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ss&cid=dlvr.it

March 19 more @ link

The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office, which led the weekend search efforts for 15-year-old Sierra Lamar, on Monday morning confirmed the girl's cell found was discovered Saturday shortly before 7 p.m. about three-quarters of a mile from her house at Dougherty and Palm avenues, according to Sgt. Jose Cardoza.

Sierra's phone was located at the northeast corner of Scheller Avenue and Santa Teresa Boulevard. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/19...est=latestnews

March 19 From video @ link:

Friend of Sierra: Now that all these days have gone by, we're getting really worried. Like, we know that she didn't run away because she's just not the kind of person to do that.

Marlene Lamar: She was in an optimistic mood. She was very cheerful. She wished me a good day at work and I told her I loved her before she left for school.

Friend of Sierra: I know she's going to come home. I know it. I don't want to think of anything else.

Marlene Lamar: I appreciate all the efforts. God bless everybody that is trying to help. Even the people that don't know her, I hear that they are chipping in and they are trying to help and I appreciate everything. God bless you all.

http://www.kron4.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=3457

March 19 From video @ link:

Marlene Lamar: I felt that she was in a good state of mind and that everything was going fine that morning.

Danielle Lamar: It's just weird that none of us have any idea or like, can't think of like, anything that she's recently told us that, you know, that we can put together that maybe she did run away. There is just nothing any of us that are really close to her can think of.

Friend of Sierra: It finally hit me that this is actually happening and that something that I thought could never really happen to anybody that I knew happened to like, one of my best friends. And like, it like almost broke my heart. And I just, I didn't know what to think. And I didn't know what to do and it made me feel helpless.

She wanted to stay with me instead of moving and continue going to Washington but her mom wanted her to move to Morgan Hill with her so- she really didn't want to go. But she comes to Fremont as much as she can because she really misses us.

If anything- she wouldn't run away. If she were to ever like, run away from Morgan Hill, she would come to Fremont because she knows this place. She knows everyone here. She wouldn't run away to some place she wouldn't know. She wouldn't feel safe.

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/frem...ssmates/vGbms/

March 19 From video @ link:

Friend of Sierra: She would never run away. She wouldn't feel safe being alone. She loves being with friends and being with a lot of people.


Tuesday, March 20, 2012

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/morg...rch-for/vGcSg/

March 20 video @ link

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...ll-teen/nLYSt/

March 20 more @ link

According to the same registry, Sierra's father, Steve Lamar, who lives in Fremont, is himself a registered sex offender who was convicted of charges of lewd acts with a child under 14 years old.

Sheriff's officials have said, however, that Steve Lamar was not considered a suspect in the case. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...143507446.html

March 20 more @ link

The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department said it will search the Morgan Hill home of a missing teenager Tuesday.

Investigators listed the search as a new detail in their search for Sierra Lamar, who has not been seen since leaving for school last Friday.

Sheriff's investigators said they will also conduct more interviews with Sierra's friends. They said the interviews on Monday did not reveal any useful information. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8588876

March 20 From video @ Link:

Marlene: Somebody might have seen something that normally drives on this road around that time period. And that- you know, they might have seen something out of the ordinary.

Reporter: Sierra's father told ABC news his daughter was looking forward to a visit with him in Fremont this coming weekend.

Steve Lamar: She wanted me to make her a hair appointment. Um, she wanted to get her hair dyed so, she was all excited about doing that.

Reporter: ABC news discovered after this interview that Steve Lamar is an RSO. He says he is innocent of any crime and pled guilty based on bad legal advice. Authorities say Steve Lamar is not a suspect. Family and close friends are frustrated by the distraction.

Family friend: He's not a suspect. He loves his daughter. He wants her to come home. So, lets just focus on Sierra and just, you know, keep our attention on where it should be. Bringing her home.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...bay&id=8587864
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8588337

March 20 From video @ link:

(mother is handing out flyers at bus stop intersection)

Man in car: And it just seemed odd, um, cause he was just-

Marlene: Please report it to the police department. Because that- that's the biggest thing I've heard so far.

Marlene: They might have seen something out of the ordinary and I was just trying to tell 'em to kind of remember what happened when were driving through on March 16th on Friday.

Reporter: Now we are getting word that Sierra's father, Steve Lamar, was convicted in 2007 of lewd or lascivious acts with a girl under the age of 14. He spent 8 months in Alameda County jail. Last night, before reporters learned of his record, he spoke with ABC news about his last conversation with Sierra.

Steve: Thursday night, she sounded really good, you know. She was excited about a paper she was writing and she was telling me about that. And, uh, her other sister.

Reporter: Mr.Lamar says he only pleaded guilty to child molestation at the advice of an attorney. He says he is innocent, but is still officially a sex offender....
...We asked Mrs. Lamar about her ex-husbands criminal record.

Marlene: No, I don't want to talk about that because that has nothing to do with my daughter right now. We're searching for her and that's the focus right now. Okay? Thank you.

http://www.kron4.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=3472

March 20 From video @ link:

Q: What are you asking the drivers, ma'am?

Marlene: I'm asking if they saw anything during this time period because this is the time period that she usually catches the bus. She's the only one at this particular bus stop. So I'm hoping that they remember something suspicious or out of the ordinary and if they frequently come through this area to go to work then maybe they'll remember. And I've been trying to tell them about the day of week that it's occurring.

Reporter: She is stopped everybody that she possibly can. You have tears in your eyes. What are they telling you, ma'am?

Marlene: They are telling me that they've seen her at the bus stop a lot. Um, you know, and um, that tells me that you know, as far as, you know, they said something about the scent stopping at the driveway, well, that tells me that um, you know, she did walk to the bus stop. You know?

Reporter: Can you give us her routine? There is speculation that she walks in the dark.

Marlene: She doesn't, no no no, she gets up at 6 o clock but she isn't leaving the house until 7:15. And she's here around this time.

Q: And she is here, by herself, catching the bus?

Marlene: Yes. Yes. At 7:25, usually it comes here, but I don't think it came here today because the bus driver is aware of what happened.

Q: About 3/4ths of a mile away from this location is where they found her cell phone. Any reason why she would be at the intersection?

Marlene: I have no idea. I have no idea.

Q: Any idea of how she disappeared? You absolutely think she was abducted? This is not a runaway.

Marlene: It's looking like that to me. It really is. Um, I- I just have to try everything. Get the word out and hopefully somebody has seen something.

Q: She was last seen at 6am- that is not the time-?

Marlene: No, no no. That's not absolutely true. That's the time she wakes up in the house to start getting ready for school.

Q: But she would leave the house just like this- this condition?

Marlene: Around this time. 7:15 she would leave the house.

Q: Okay, so she is never in the dark by herself?

Marlene: No, not in the dark.

Q: And she does walk?

Marlene: Yes, that's right.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-cou...ce=most_viewed

March 20 more @ link

"She's always been a happy person who wears her emotions on her sleeve," said J*****, 17. "If she was upset, she would cry. So, she wouldn't want to run away and just be by herself. If she just wanted to run away from Morgan Hill, she would have come here to Fremont and told her friends here or contacted her dad." http://www.gilroydispatch.com/articl...439b75ec7.html

March 20 more @ link

“(Steve LaMar) has been very cooperative and forthcoming with any and all information requested from him,” Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Lt. Troy Smith said. “We are still looking into the case at this time and there has not yet been any indication that a crime has occurred.” http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=8589198

March 20 From video @ link:

Marlene: Because I'm always worried about where she is and, if you can hear me, just realize how much I love you and I want you back. I want you back.

Steve: Sierra, we love you and we can't wait for you to come home.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video/#!/n...erra/143606086

March 20 From video @ link:

Marlene: If you can hear me, just realize how much I love you and I want you back. I want you back. I love you and I just want you back.
It's like, right now I have this emptiness inside of me, and I know if I keep my faith I can go on, it's just hard. I feel like- it's hard for me to eat, I just feel guilty about doing anything.

Danielle: We're not going to give up until she comes home. I just- things just aren't the same without her.

Steve: And you have to get home before Saturday because you have a hair appointment. So, we can't wait for you to come home, Sierra. We love you.

Marlene: I just really appreciate all your efforts. Cause I don't-I mean, I have wonderful family and friends, but I realize the circle is large and it's growing and it's keeping me stronger. And I appreciate everybody's efforts. God bless you.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...disappearance/

March 20 video @ link

Community members held a candlelight vigil for missing Morgan Hill teen Sierra Lamar Tuesday night as authorities continued to search for her. http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/...a4bcf6878.html

March 20 Pictures from vigil @ link

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/morg...gil-for/vGcXM/

March 20 More video coverage of prayer vigil @ link
 
Niner and askfornina
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niner you are WONDERFUL AND :yourock:

:tyou: for taking the time to do this for me, you're a honey :D

at least i have an idea what happened, it's a start......

you didn't roll your eyes while you did it, did you? :hilarious:

everyone else, please feel free to pipe up with tidbits....no need to go to any trouble with links.....i just want an overview to what happened to get us to where we are now.....

niner, again thank you so much, first my beautiful queenbee orchid picture for posting tweets during trials and now this, you're my new bestest buddy :loveyou:

:rose: sierra.....may there be justice
:rose: strength to those that love her
 
four quick questions....how old is danielle(linked above), her sister? when/by whom was sierra found? when and why was this person arrested? what was the COD? (almost all of the video links are dead now).....

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