Disorganized offenders would generally leave personal affects with the body because they aren't considering potential identification. They dump the body and whatever else there is in the first convenient spot they find (i.e. the side of a deserted road).
Just wondering why Tricia said on Levi's show that there was evidence the bag and phone were thrown from a fast moving vehicle? is this something I have missed in MSM or info Tricia has been made privvy to or is it a misunderstanding?
I think it could be anything from her jumping in the car happily at the end of the driveway because it's someone she knew to one or more people getting her into a vehicle by force. It'd take under a minute to scoop someone smaller up with your hand over their mouth and chuck them in a securable part of the car, get in yourself and drive off. The biggest threat being a neighbour seeing the vehicle or struggle. If it looked like a reasonable "out of place" type of vehicle such as a tradesmans van etc it would only look suspicious in retrospect. If they used a weapon she most likely would have gone silently if told to do so.
Since there is no crime scene, we don't know what he left or didn't leave. There could be personal things with her and things could be a mess. Right now, he strikes me as disorganized. He appears to have been in a frenzy when discarding evidence.
I am just pondering and guessing at this point, But I cannot help but feel that she entered the vehicle willingly, and things went wrong almost immediately. I think he tossed the phone first enroute to where he was taking her, then out went the purse, question is where then, I notice that if you turn at Laguna where the purse was tossed you can get over the tracks, is there a way onto the hiway there or a way to a more desolate area. If he continued on straight from where the purse was tossed he would be getting into a city area, meaning people at that hour of the morning, I think where the purse was dumped is where he turned to head out.
I still think it is possible he returned back along the blv once he was done and just got rid of it somewhere close by...
Perhaps the phone was in pretty bad shape with significant skid marks on it. I left my cell phone sitting on top of my car and drove off. It stayed in place until I was going 30 - 35 MPH. Even then it was in really rough shape.
I think the condition of the cell phone was much as you describe...It was scratched-up at the very least. Sorry, I don't have a link to source my comment, but I believe one was posted way up.
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I am right there with you. I am horrified how some teens talk nowadays and put it all out on the internet for everyone to read.
Thank goodness all of our grandchildren that have a FB accounts have me as their friend and I would faint if I ever saw any of them say such vulgar things and talk about drugs and alcohol.
But I do feel teens are under a lot more stress now and may just talk the talk trying to fit in with their peer group. It is sad that it has come to that but I do believe a lot of them are just trying to act like they are worldly and thinks its the only way to be 'cool'.
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It seems pretty pointless to me to ditch a harmless bag of clothing, yet retain the girl...the bag could easily have been disposed of later, anywhere, and probably would never have been found, or linked to Sierra. I can't get what the big hurry to get rid of the bag could be. JMO
I am just pondering and guessing at this point, But I cannot help but feel that she entered the vehicle willingly, and things went wrong almost immediately. I think he tossed the phone first enroute to where he was taking her, then out went the purse, question is where then, I notice that if you turn at Laguna where the purse was tossed you can get over the tracks, is there a way onto the hiway there or a way to a more desolate area. If he continued on straight from where the purse was tossed he would be getting into a city area, meaning people at that hour of the morning, I think where the purse was dumped is where he turned to head out.
I think the reason to get rid of the bag is not the bag itself, but what it can contain. It could contain a gps, a weapon, another phone..... I hate to keep bringing in my personal experience, but the one attacker with me was very concerned if I had a weapon on me. He asked me several times if i was packing, however he dumped my purse and said he could not believe I wasn't. I wonder if he was just concerned about anything that could help her resist him at that time.
Whisperer,
If Marlene is holding something back, I am sincerely hoping its at the request of LE. I cannot see her holding anything back otherwise when everything and I mean everything is important in finding Sierra.
And I know I am going to get bashed but again, wish we knew more of the boyfriend. I know he has been cleared. But many have mentioned it could be a military man and from what I know the BF is/was Active National Guard, could it be one of his friends or associates?
Interesting observation. Was it removed to take away her beloved items from her and make her sad/cry/plea which all plays into power over the victim?
We know the phone was tossed and that is obvious why that was done. She had GPS on it. Now, for the bag, I don't see a male caring one way or the other about the bag, but again, it was either done for control and to instill fear in her, which is usually the main goal of a perp.
He may have thought she had another phone or device to track them..and tossed it.
Teens messing around with Stainless Steel Cuffs? :what:
Oh boy, I need to crawl under a rock somewhere. The things I am learning about teens is way too upsetting for me. I have a 21 yr old and have never heard such carp as I have in this case. I'm hearing her texting and tumbler is normal. This girl spoke of alcohol, drugs, foul language, rap, hip hop and I'm told this is normal.
What exactly is her group like? More, how many in her school are like this?
I am not naive enough to think there aren't kids who do drugs, drink, etc., but if this is the group she hangs with, there is a BIG problem. When my son and friends spoke of groups like this it was never in a good way. It has only been a few years since high school. Have things changed this much?