CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #1

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JReed said:
NikB- Glad you're a local too! I tell people I live in the Roseville Ghetto! I don't feel "rich" enough here either! I've lived here since it was crappy!

It's not the freeways that bother me here, it is the railroad. Tommy Lynn Sells came through here before he was caught and we've had more than our share of serials in the Sacramento area because of the railroad. Well, in my opinion...
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I'm sorry I know this situation that brought us all here isn't funny but I had to laugh a little at your description - I don't think of any of Roseville as particularly "Ghetto" but I know what you mean! I know every city has its cultural and economic differences but I haven't seen anywhere quite as dramatic within relatively short distances before.

I hadn't thought too much about the railroad, although it's a good point. For those wondering it'd be roughly a 10 minute drive from the Raley's shopping center to the railyards (give or take, particularly depending on where along the railway). I can't really see someone kidnapping Susan and taking her there (JMO), but it's certainly a place one could hide or use to get away after committing a crime.

Coincidentally my husband and I met up with a couple of friends in Roseville last night. Can't believe I didn't think to ask these two sooner - we don't see them all that often and I forgot they'd moved to the area a couple of months ago. Anyway the guy works as a mechanic for the railroad, and they live not far from the Sun City area - probably about halfway between the railyard and Sun City. He works mostly nights (11pm to 8am). I was sad to find out neither of them had heard much about Susan other than what I've shared on Facebook.

After I asked about it they seemed to vaguely remember seeing a news story about Susan "awhile ago" but otherwise weren't very familiar with her story and didn't realize she's still missing. With the guy in particular he may have just not really noticed the flyers/signs although I think he probably would have - he wasn't too sure though. I was thinking it might be worth checking to see if there could be more signs at/near the railyard. I imagine many of the people who work there probably live pretty locally too, so it could be good exposure on multiple fronts. I also asked him to check for any posters or flyers next time he goes in to work. The wife of the couple is a student and they're out on break right now, so not much she could do in terms of checking at the school, but she said she'll keep Susan in mind and keep an eye out.

I so hope for some kind of good news, good leads, SOMETHING, soon.
 
JReed said:
Hi all!

Long time lurker; first time poster...

I registered here specifically to post in the Susan Jacobson thread. I live in Roseville, and have been trying to keep up with her case daily. It is frustrating that there is hardly any media coverage. While it is true that our city is pretty safe, there is a seedy underbelly like most other cities. I think we are all lulled into a false sense of security here. I grew up in Roseville so I have seen the city grow exponentially. Everyone has this impression that it is a white bread upper middle class city, but let me assure you there are pockets of uber nice and pockets of crap.

Anyway, I doubt highly that my story is related to Susan's, but I want to tell it...

About two weeks (give or take) before Mrs. Jacobson went missing, my mother went out to have coffee with a friend. At the end of her outing, she dropped her friend off at her apartment complex (the Woodcreek ones... Heritage Oaks I think it's called...). She and her friend were finishing their conversation in the lot, and out of nowhere a man tried to open the back door of her car. She always keeps her doors locked, and when the guy couldn't get it open, he started saying that he needed a ride and to let him in. My mom and her friend started screaming "NO!" and her friend got out and ran to her apartment and my mother drove off. My mother got home a few minutes later and told me what had happened and I made her phone the police. She told the dispatch the story of what just took place, and they told her that they'd investigate. She hasn't heard back about the incident or anything. Skip to Susan's disappearance not that far down the road, and I about fell over! Like I said, I don't think it's connected, but It's one of those things that do make you think... No matter how safe we think our cities are, there can be danger hanging around. And, we women need to be ultra mindful about our surroundings.

Not a day goes by where I don't think about her and her family. I hope she is found safe and sound. I do love the idea of a candle light vigil though to get some awareness and press coverage. If the family decides to have one; count me in.
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JReed - thank you for your post. I agree that the probability is low that it is related - but could you ask your mom to consider calling the tip line at 916-774-5080 set up for Susan? Or, if you are okay with, I can forward the detectives your mom's story (as above) and see if they have interest in following up with your mom? Let me know your thoughts. We obviously don't have much to go on right now, and the police should probably check out anyone in that complex (it is also pretty close to the shopping center) that they can (i.e. people on probation, etc.). But thanks for your info.
 
JReed said:
My mom didn't follow up with anything, and the police didn't either... She gave them a description of your basic creepy white guy. I'll see if she or her friend can remember more specific details.

Not to sound like a conspiracy nut or anything (but here goes), it seems like all sort of big crime here is totally blacked out by the city. Like we have to keep up with the all American city image. It's strange. And, I am like Susan in the way that I love doing my errands early in the morning. The traffic gets so bad in the mid morning to afternoon. It is ridiculous and horrible. But even in the daytime I am careful to let my husband know where I'll be.

Roseville is just a super odd city. I always thought they had cameras everywhere. We also have an absolute jumble of people. From transient people who ride the rails to the spiffy richy-rich types and everyone in between.

We also have a weird abundance of UFO sightings.

I just cannot believe no one saw anything that morning. There are people out 24/7. Even the bike trails are well traveled. There's always someone around...
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Yes - I'm not sure who is responsible for or why, but I have found that it seems like crime information is not publicized very well in Roseville.
 
I am glad to see Susan's thread more active!! :) Yay!!!
Where are you Ms. Susan??
 
I am wondering if Susan colored her own hair, or went to a hairdresser/salon.
Most women will talk, if not a lot, then somewhat to their hairdresser when getting their hair cut, colored, etc....
 
Kjac, I am so incredibly sorry that you and your family have to go through something as horrific as this. I think about her every day and always keep my eyes peeled and ears open.

Yes, absolutely tell the investigating officers and I'll tell my mom to phone the tip line. You can message me and I'll give you whatever information you need. I am on Facebook, so I'll head over to your page too.
 
K, has LE given you any clue as to what they are thinking? Probably not...but wondering if they have seemed to have accepted she left on her own, which seems fairly unlikely, or that they believe she was abducted?
 
Kjac22 said:
JReed - thank you for your post. I agree that the probability is low that it is related - but could you ask your mom to consider calling the tip line at 916-774-5080 set up for Susan? Or, if you are okay with, I can forward the detectives your mom's story (as above) and see if they have interest in following up with your mom? Let me know your thoughts. We obviously don't have much to go on right now, and the police should probably check out anyone in that complex (it is also pretty close to the shopping center) that they can (i.e. people on probation, etc.). But thanks for your info.
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I agree with both of you that the probability of them being related is low, but it did keep bugging me last night that your Moms seem to fit a fairly similar description (age, height, mistaken for being younger). I know it's probably a fairly remote possibility but I wonder if there's someone out there targeting that particular area and something about the potential victim, whether it's based on age, height/size, or something similar

I guess people who are smaller and appear more frail (not saying they ARE more frail, just maybe appear that way) might be a more obvious target anywhere, but it does stand out to me that they're so close together and similar in appearance.
 
I'm not sure who is responsible for or why, but I have found that it seems like crime information is not publicized very well in Roseville.
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Actually, I would tend to disagree. I have been to two Roseville Neighborhood Association meetings and a Neighborhood Watch meeting in the last six months. At every meeting they strongly encouraged people to sign up for Roseville Public Safety Bulletins (crime alerts) via City of Roseville E-notify.

Roseville crime data is in CrimeMapping.com, Crime information by Beat is also available weekly on the RCONA.org website and usually rocklintoday.com. Roseville Patch has quite a bit of coverage of local crime stories. I imagine there is coverage in other sources (including print media) that I don't follow.

Time critical updates are sometimes announce via @RSVL_Pub_Safety on twitter.

Shortcut to page with links to E-Notify, Crimemapping, and crime historical stats.
 
cluciano63 said:
K, has LE given you any clue as to what they are thinking? Probably not...but wondering if they have seemed to have accepted she left on her own, which seems fairly unlikely, or that they believe she was abducted?
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They haven't said anything outright. I think like everyone, they don't really know. There really is not much to go on, so it's hard. It's possible that in the back of their minds, or as a more likely scenario in their minds, they think she just left on her own. If you don't know my mom personally, this is a decent possibility. But as I've said, while possible, I think it's very unlikely - unless it was connected to some mental breakdown - but even then she would have no where to go. So I can understand them leaning this way in general, but I hope it hasn't influenced their actions in other areas.

I'm not sure what their MO is on the abduction/kidnapping stuff. They have said they think it is unlikely and low on the scenario scale for them, but haven't really told us why. It would be easier if they were more open to us as to the reasons why. I understand Roseville, and specifically Sun City are safe areas - but there are some red flags with the facts we know, and it only takes one sicko who sees an opportunity. Without knowing more information - the scenario should be on the table with the rest of them.

LE has worked hard on this, and we are thankful for that. Sometimes there are no answers, no matter who looks. But we have to keep looking and we have to keep trying - especially as LE "moves on". At some point there is nothing productive they can do. I just hope that, as this becomes "colder" for them, they begin to pass on more info to us so that we can keep it alive with the best available information. I understand they are bound by certain things as far as what they can tell us, but I hope that we can begin to get more information as they move on to other matters.
 
Wildcat said:
Actually, I would tend to disagree. I have been to two Roseville Neighborhood Association meetings and a Neighborhood Watch meeting in the last six months. At every meeting they strongly encouraged people to sign up for Roseville Public Safety Bulletins (crime alerts) via City of Roseville E-notify.

Roseville crime data is in CrimeMapping.com, Crime information by Beat is also available weekly on the RCONA.org website and usually rocklintoday.com. Roseville Patch has quite a bit of coverage of local crime stories. I imagine there is coverage in other sources (including print media) that I don't follow.

Time critical updates are sometimes announce via @RSVL_Pub_Safety on twitter.

Shortcut to page with links to E-Notify, Crimemapping, and crime historical stats.
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Thanks Wildcat. Maybe it's just me, but I wanted to mention it seems like most of these sources are ones you have to seek out as opposed to things you (general you) see on the regular local news. I honestly don't know if there are factual #s to back this up so it's MOO, just sharing my general impressions from living in the area most of my life. I guess I feel like the info IS available, but you have to look for it as opposed to it being publicized. It bothers me that Susan's story isn't all over the place every time I look, I suppose... of course I know it'd be nearly impossible to have every story be front and center all the time. I still can't believe she isn't home yet!

I also wanted to say thank you for sharing the places where you've gotten more info! I've signed up for the notifications in my area, which are similar to those available in Roseville, and I appreciate it as I didn't know some of those were available before.
 
Kjac22 said:
They haven't said anything outright. I think like everyone, they don't really know. There really is not much to go on, so it's hard. It's possible that in the back of their minds, or as a more likely scenario in their minds, they think she just left on her own. If you don't know my mom personally, this is a decent possibility. But as I've said, while possible, I think it's very unlikely - unless it was connected to some mental breakdown - but even then she would have no where to go. So I can understand them leaning this way in general, but I hope it hasn't influenced their actions in other areas.

I'm not sure what their MO is on the abduction/kidnapping stuff. They have said they think it is unlikely and low on the scenario scale for them, but haven't really told us why. It would be easier if they were more open to us as to the reasons why. I understand Roseville, and specifically Sun City are safe areas - but there are some red flags with the facts we know, and it only takes one sicko who sees an opportunity. Without knowing more information - the scenario should be on the table with the rest of them.

LE has worked hard on this, and we are thankful for that. Sometimes there are no answers, no matter who looks. But we have to keep looking and we have to keep trying - especially as LE "moves on". At some point there is nothing productive they can do. I just hope that, as this becomes "colder" for them, they begin to pass on more info to us so that we can keep it alive with the best available information. I understand they are bound by certain things as far as what they can tell us, but I hope that we can begin to get more information as they move on to other matters.
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It must be so frustrating that no good leads have materialized as yet. Without something to go on, it makes it hard for LE to figure out what happened. Sometimes I think that they should listen to the family more, and not always assume that someone just wanted to get away. This happens with missing teens as well. LE thinks of them as runaways and don't take it seriously in the very beginning, when we all know that the first 48 hours is a crucial time in any missing case. Sometimes clues are missed because people forget critical information after a few days pass.
I am praying that they find your mom soon, and this mystery will be cleared up. My thoughts and prayers for you and your dad as well as all the family, that something good will happen with this situation. Hang in there, and thanks for keeping us updated.
 
Kjac22 said:
They haven't said anything outright. I think like everyone, they don't really know. There really is not much to go on, so it's hard. It's possible that in the back of their minds, or as a more likely scenario in their minds, they think she just left on her own. If you don't know my mom personally, this is a decent possibility. But as I've said, while possible, I think it's very unlikely - unless it was connected to some mental breakdown - but even then she would have no where to go. So I can understand them leaning this way in general, but I hope it hasn't influenced their actions in other areas.

I'm not sure what their MO is on the abduction/kidnapping stuff. They have said they think it is unlikely and low on the scenario scale for them, but haven't really told us why. It would be easier if they were more open to us as to the reasons why. I understand Roseville, and specifically Sun City are safe areas - but there are some red flags with the facts we know, and it only takes one sicko who sees an opportunity. Without knowing more information - the scenario should be on the table with the rest of them.

LE has worked hard on this, and we are thankful for that. Sometimes there are no answers, no matter who looks. But we have to keep looking and we have to keep trying - especially as LE "moves on". At some point there is nothing productive they can do. I just hope that, as this becomes "colder" for them, they begin to pass on more info to us so that we can keep it alive with the best available information. I understand they are bound by certain things as far as what they can tell us, but I hope that we can begin to get more information as they move on to other matters.
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Thanks Kjac. You are a hero for your mom. I am sure your head swirls with thoughts and ideas, and they may even change from day to day. I admire that you just keep up the fight. Hoping for answers for your family.
 
Where is Susan ? Who besides hubby was the last to see her or talk to her?
 
Eileen730 said:
Where is Susan ? Who besides hubby was the last to see her or talk to her?
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And what did she do on the previous days? That could be a clue(s), too, maybe??

Also, if someone followed her from her home that morning, I would think that they would have had to have been in a car (not hers), because how would they know she would be at the parking lot to the shopping center. It would seem odd that she would have been abducted from home, taken to the parking lot and transferred alive to another car in the parking lot....so did she even arrive at the parking lot? Her car was there......It arrived, but did she?
Maybe there is footage of her leaving her home, if neighbors had a security system. I wonder if Susan had a security system at her home? Was that discussed before? Then there could be video of her leaving in her car, and at the very least it would give a time that she left, or a time that "her car" left her home. And if somebody abducted her from outside of her home, then it would show that and show a perp taking her car.... Just random thought I have, In My Opinion Only.....
 
Bumping for Susan.......It's sad to see her on the bottom of the second page, close to starting the third page on Websleuths..so BUMPING for Ms. Susan to put her back on the first page......... I think about Susan all the time.......where are you Susan dear??
 
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