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[YaYa_521]

Do You Know These Women? Police Ask Public to Help Identify 21 Photos Found in Home of Accused Killer

Mona Lisa Lincoln – The Charley Project

IMO, the woman in photo #12 resembles Mona Lisa Lincoln who was last seen in 1987 in San Diego when she left to cash a check. She took a bus to Inglewood, CA. then was never seen again.

It appears Mona Lisa has a widow's peak but the angle of the pose and the hairstlye (worn down rather than pulled back) doesn't show it as defined as lady #12's. Their eyes, mouth, jawline, and nose all seem similar. I wish we could see the pendant on the necklace Mona Lisa is wearing, if there is one.

 

[Bit of hope]

Do You Know These Women? Police Ask Public to Help Identify 21 Photos Found in Home of Accused Killer

Mona Lisa Lincoln – The Charley Project

IMO, the woman in photo #12 resembles Mona Lisa Lincoln who was last seen in 1987 in San Diego when she left to cash a check. She took a bus to Inglewood, CA. then was never seen again.

It appears Mona Lisa has a widow's peak but the angle of the pose and the hairstlye (worn down rather than pulled back) doesn't show it as defined as lady #12's. Their eyes, mouth, jawline, and nose all seem similar. I wish we could see the pendant on the necklace Mona Lisa is wearing, if there is one.

Yes! @YaYa_521 Thanks! I thought so too this could be Mona Lisa, but I was still looking for "some kind of" more conformation for myself. Also the widow peak of Jane Doe......The necklace same thing here......

 

[Bit of hope]

No, not Tara's case. But, Bit of Hope I could hugh you right now, after few days, yes, it is Amy Bradley's case and photo of her found years later. Thank You!

Just rereading some details of her case now and it seems there were about 3 photos of woman on bed sent to her family. I remembered only one. However, I see now it was not 100% confirmed if it was really her. I thought of resemblance of woman on the bed to our photo here of girl number 4. Now, after seeing it again I am not so sure anymore.

(on left is Amy Bradley and on right is woman in the photo on bed who they think was/is Amy)

Link to some brief details of Amy Bradley's case who disappeared in 1998 - Shocking Facts About Amy Lynn Bradley, The Woman Who Disappeared At Sea

and WS thread - VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #3

Still, woman in photo number 4 reminds me of someone.

@Al Ka and others.....what age we think this woman/girl is approx?

I still have Michele Luise Costantino in my mind, she could be placed in West Hollywood in 1999, but she was already 40 and according to CP had red hair....(not shown in picture) There is only one picture of her and her records on genealogy sites is pretty "messed up" or unfindable. I thought I found her mother's obituary but something is off, nothing about her missing or the like. Michele Luise Costantino – The Charley Project

 

[Bit of hope]

DECEMBER 13, 2019 08:54 AM

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Horace Vaultz Jr., 64, was connected to the cold-case killings through genealogy, the Los Angeles Times reported.

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Vaultz has connections to Justin, Texas, and Fort Worth dating back to 2012, the Fort Worth Police Department said Thursday. He lived in the 1900 block of Stonehill Drive in Justin, according to public records.

Bringing this over from my timeline

2015 1913 Stonehill Dr, Justin, TX 76247 The Texas connection "Vaultz has traveled “all over Southern California” since the 1980s, according to Kay, who said the defendant’s permanent residence is in Bakersfield but that he “has a connection to Texas.”

2014 16204 Shawnee Trail, Justin, TX 76247, lived here in 2014 Denton County, TX

Thanks for the additional info on Fort Worth and the dating back to 2012. Records show that he officially was registered in Bakersfield, CA.

 

[Bit of hope]

Just wondering.... does a killer stop killing due to a certain age....? Or did he changed his "hunting ground" to Texas? Around 60 you could still be strong and maybe even looking less threatening because of the age....I don't know....

 

[YaYa_521]

#11

Dena Viola McHan – The Charley Project

I'm not convinced on this potential but I can't seem to ignore the visual similarities either. Is it possible Dena McHan is a younger version of Lady #11? I see it but don't at the same time. Also, her circumstances tend to match in that she was last seen at a store. It loses my vote though when it mentions two men harassing her rather than just one.

 

[Bit of hope]

#11

Dena Viola McHan – The Charley Project

I'm not convinced on this potential but I can't seem to ignore the visual similarities either. Is it possible Dena McHan is a younger version of Lady #11? I see it but don't at the same time. Also, her circumstances tend to match in that she was last seen at a store. It loses my vote though when it mentions two men harassing her rather than just one.

Yup.....I almost think you hacked into my working file.

 

[dotr]

CRIME HUNTER: Do photos hold key to Cali serial killer case?

Do you know these women? They may have been the victims of a suspected serial killer. BURBANK POLICE
''There are no names, just a stash of photos of young women.

It’s not much but it could be the path to justice for a suspected serial killer who cops believe has terrorized southern California for decades.

Detectives allegedly came upon the photos during a search of Horace Van Vaultz’s Bakersfield home.

“I don’t know who they are,” Burbank Police Dept. Det. Aaron Kay told NBC News.

“My concern is that either they’re missing or dead. They could be the victim of something.”

While killers like Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy hogged the headlines, it’s alleged Van Vaultz was quietly eviscerating women in Cali.''

Cops like Horace Van Vaultz for a series of grisly murders in California. BURBANK POLICE
Cops claim genealogical DNA databases fingered Van Vaultz, 64, and he was arrested in late 2019.

The death tally may be staggering, cops fear.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Feel like we should have a subforum for Vaultz and his victims, but I asked for the same to be done for Little and his victims, and nothing was done

 

[YaYa_521]

@Al Ka and others.....what age we think this woman/girl is approx?

I still have Michele Luise Costantino in my mind, she could be placed in West Hollywood in 1999, but she was already 40 and according to CP had red hair....(not shown in picture) There is only one picture of her and her records on genealogy sites is pretty "messed up" or unfindable. I thought I found her mother's obituary but something is off, nothing about her missing or the like. Michele Luise Costantino – The Charley Project

My guess is she'd be at least 25 but maybe about 28-32yo.

 

[YaYa_521]

Feel like we should have a subforum for Vaultz and his victims, but I asked for the same to be done for Little and his victims, and nothing was done

Do you know how many confirmed victims? Imo, a subforum wouldn't be a bad idea especially given all these different pics of potential victims. It's going to get confusing and messy in here. Moo I also wonder if there are other pics not released yet?

 

[Romulus]

A case very similar to that of Rodney Alcala's photos, we hope we can identify the other women

 

[Bit of hope]

A case very similar to that of Rodney Alcala's photos, we hope we can identify the other women

I have troubles opening and seeing it.

 

[Romulus]

I have troubles opening and seeing it.

My error, sorry! Nothing opening

 

[Bit of hope]

Do you know how many confirmed victims? Imo, a subforum wouldn't be a bad idea especially given all these different pics of potential victims. It's going to get confusing and messy in here. Moo I also wonder if there are other pics not released yet?

I'm not sure I understand your question. Horace Vaultz is linked through DNA to two homicides: Duggan and Keough. So there are two confirmed murder victims. There were more victims and a possible other murder but he was acquitted for that one. I summed it all up in the timeline, by year, I posted. Maybe more info will come along.

This thread I thought was especially for the pictures that were found in his last residence, being possible victims too. He didn't elaborate on this pictures yet, in itself a little strange because if there is nothing wrong why not telling who they are. IMO I don't think it's messy at all......

 

[YaYa_521]

I'm not sure I understand your question. Horace Vaultz is linked through DNA to two homicides: Duggan and Keough. So there are two confirmed murder victims. There were more victims and a possible other murder but he was acquitted for that one. I summed it all up in the timeline, by year, I posted. Maybe more info will come along.

This thread I thought was especially for the pictures that were found in his last residence, being possible victims too. He didn't elaborate on this pictures yet, in itself a little strange because if there is nothing wrong why not telling who they are. IMO I don't think it's messy at all......

Got it, yes. Ty. I thought maybe there were more confirmed victims that hadn't been discussed in this thread which is why a subforum was suggested.

By messy I meant that there are so many pics it seems this thread will end up being a mishmash of back & forth posts. In a subforum there could be a thread for each numbered pic (or multiple pics that are expected to be of the same person). Either way, it'll work out I'm sure. WSleuthers are the best at bringing order to chaos. Just look at that timeline you created. Thanks again, btw.

 

[Bit of hope]

My guess is she'd be at least 25 but maybe about 28-32yo.

Andrea Jerri White? She was 22 years old when she disappeared from Humboldt County, California, on July 31st, 1991. Justice for Native Women: Andrea White, Missing from California since 1991.

 

[Bit of hope]

Got it, yes. Ty. I thought maybe there were more confirmed victims that hadn't been discussed in this thread which is why a subforum was suggested.

By messy I meant that there are so many pics it seems this thread will end up being a mishmash of back & forth posts. In a subforum there could be a thread for each numbered pic (or multiple pics that are expected to be of the same person). Either way, it'll work out I'm sure. WSleuthers are the best at bringing order to chaos. Just look at that timeline you created. Thanks again, btw.

I understand and thanks....I'm not sure it would work one way or another.....if you look at the Alcala pictures threads it's very hard to become not messy...the hardest thing is to keep track of who is identified by now and who is not. Just the other day there was still a woman identified, she recognizes herself after years and years this pictures were published....happily she was alive and kickin'.

I couldn't find anything about Vaultz's occupation....could some of the women be co-workers?

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Do you know how many confirmed victims? Imo, a subforum wouldn't be a bad idea especially given all these different pics of potential victims. It's going to get confusing and messy in here. Moo I also wonder if there are other pics not released yet?

Sorry, YaYa, I forgot to answer you. AFAIK, there are two confirmed victims, as BoH mentioned upthread, but I fear the real number is substantially higher seeing this man's life has been basically a history of violence, and he's been more or less free to whatever he wants for at least 35-40 years already. I guess the only "good" thing coming out of this is that there might be families who will finally have some answers to what has happened to a missing loved one.

 

[Kano]

i checked a few of these addresses i found interesting. The one on Balboa Blvd looks to be a giant facility associated with the city. There a youth rec center, water treatment facility etc there. Wonder if there a mistake or this entire complex built after the fact? Also i guess no info on where he lived in the 80s? Looked like he was roaming a little rough ground in the early 90s by ingelwood. Seems he was also pulled over and arrested in ingelwood in this current case. Could be another area he has a strong relation to.

I have seen him called a widower. What do we have on the wife? Name and what did she pass from?