CA CA - Valencia, 2 WhtFems UP4388 & 4389, 17-35, in riverbed near I-5, Jan'80

[Romulus]

Bumping for these girls... They've been unidentified for too long!
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UP4388

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Exclusions:
1.) Elaine Marie Robertson - Missing Since 05/27/1979
2.) Jane Ellen Wakefield - Missing Since 09/06/1975
3.) Sherry Elizabeth Roach - Missing Since 06/08/1976
4.) Angela Mae Meeker - Missing Since 07/07/1979
5.) Connie Gail Minchaca - Missing Since 06/09/1978
6.) Lucinda Lynn Schaefer - Missing Since 06/24/1979
7.) Debra Lynn Kidwell - Missing Since 05/04/1979
8.) Benita Gay Chamberlin - Missing Since 02/23/1978 (Excluded based on my submission)
9.) Marcia Lynn Joyce - Missing Since 08/30/1978 (Excluded based on my submission)
10.) Cheryl Schille Wyant - Missing Since 05/28/1978 (Excluded based on my submission)
11.) Wanda Lee Ann Priddy - Missing Since 08/29/1978 (Excluded based on a submission sent by HmmMysterious)

UP4389

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Exclusions:
1.) Mary Frances Gregory - Missing Since 02/18/1978
2.) Patricia Evans Gomez - Missing Since 12/26/1979
3.) Rebecca Jean Dunn - Missing Since 04/01/1979
4.) Andrea Joy Hall - Missing Since 07/08/1979
5.) Judy Lynn Smithson - Missing Since 10/01/1979 (Excluded based on submission sent by taramarie)
6.) Connie Gail Minchaca - Missing Since 06/09/1978 (Excluded based on submission sent by taramarie)

Great to see that at least some is being put into the submission we're sending in.
UP4389 Exclusions:
1.) Mary Frances Gregory - Missing Since 02/18/1978
2.) Patricia Evans Gomez - Missing Since 12/26/1979
3.) Rebecca Jean Dunn - Missing Since 04/01/1979
4.) Andrea Joy Hall - Missing Since 07/08/1979
5.) Judy Lynn Smithson - Missing Since 10/01/1979 (Excluded based on submission sent by taramarie)
6.) Connie Gail Minchaca - Missing Since 06/09/1978 (Excluded based on submission sent by taramarie)
7.) Wendy Susan Byron - Missing Since 08/26/1978

Anita Qvist?

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[John/Jane Doe]

¿Anita Qvist?
https://www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/43520/details

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4311DFCA - Anita Anne Qvist

 

[DS2021]

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/missing-persons/unknown-suspect----aurora-colorado

Has anyone looked into the possibility of the 2 magic mountain express jackets belonging to these two?

The pictured clothing/belongings were recovered during a search of a serial offender’s tractor trailer cab (additional items were recovered that are not pictured). The offender has been linked to multiple homicide/missing person cases from the late 1970s to the early 1990s. As a long-haul truck driver, the offender has been through over 30 states at various times. Therefore, investigators are asking the public to review the items and notify authorities if they recognize any.

CO - CO - Aurora, FBI seeks ID of items found in serial predator's vehicle, active late 70s - early 90s

FBI website posted article seeking info about items found in serial predators vehicle. Article is listed as Aurora Colorado but states perp was long haul truck truck driver with victims in over 30 states from late 1970s to early 1990s.......wonder if this peep has been identified publicly...

www.websleuths.com

 

[carbuff]

You could be onto something. Magic Mountain Express was a rollercoaster in Valencia, 1973 to 1980. I think it was a Six Flags? I wonder if they worked there.

Mountain Express - Six Flags Magic Mountain (Valencia, California, United States)

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[SimsGuy67]

You could be onto something. Magic Mountain Express was a rollercoaster in Valencia, 1973 to 1980. I think it was a Six Flags? I wonder if they worked there.

Mountain Express - Six Flags Magic Mountain (Valencia, California, United States)

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It's a possibility. Great work @DS2021! I've also thought about them being tourists, which would explain the lack of matching missing persons reports in California. If so, they could be from anywhere.

I do admit the tourist theory doesn't really jive with the Magic Mountain Express Logo, so being workers is the stronger possibility. I wonder if there's still records of employees in the park from the late 70s.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Jane Doe's profile was updated recently. I can finally say that we have ruled Lisa Sprague out as being Jane Doe. The news is very bittersweet for me. I believed with my whole heart that this Jane Doe was Lisa, but I'm glad that we finally have an answer.

On the other hand, I wonder why Andria Bailey was never ruled out.

 

[SimsGuy67]

So everyone's on the same page, the family of Pem Yates-Briggs believe that UP4389 could be Pem. She was reported missing last month and DNA has been submitted to compare. Fingers crossed!

	Valencia Jane Doe UP4389	Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs MP118850
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White	White
Age	17 - 24	16
DLC/DOD	1979	1979
Height	5'5 - 5'9	5'3 - 5'6
Weight	115 - 130 pounds	110 - 125 pounds
Hair Color	Unknown	Blonde
Eye Color	Unknown	Brown
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None	Crooked front tooth, cleft chin.
Circumstances	Found with UP4389.	Last known to be in California in 1979.
Distance	Unknown	Unknown

 

[DS2021]

So everyone's on the same page, the family of Pem Yates-Briggs believe that UP4389 could be Pem. She was reported missing last month and DNA has been submitted to compare. Fingers crossed!

	Valencia Jane Doe UP4389	Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs MP118850
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White	White
Age	17 - 24	16
DLC/DOD	1979	1979
Height	5'5 - 5'9	5'3 - 5'6
Weight	115 - 130 pounds	110 - 125 pounds
Hair Color	Unknown	Blonde
Eye Color	Unknown	Brown
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None	Crooked front tooth, cleft chin.
Circumstances	Found with UP4389.	Last known to be in California in 1979.
Distance	Unknown	Unknown

I think its possible

 

[MadMcGoo]

Anita Qvist?

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I think the resemblance, especially to this reconstruction, is uncanny and the stats line up. The telephone contact with her by a family member in 1984 can’t be verified, so I think that leaves her open as a potential match.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I think the resemblance, especially to this reconstruction, is uncanny and the stats line up. The telephone contact with her by a family member in 1984 can’t be verified, so I think that leaves her open as a potential match.

Yeah, I take those with a grain of salt after Perrean Gray's case.

 

[SimsGuy67]

One of my major questions about this case, besides the identities of the women, of course, is why they would only take DNA from one of the sets of remains. They had two skulls so they knew there were two sets of remains, so why was only one sample taken.

I'm wondering if it's possible that UP4388 may have DNA available after all. It's wishful thinking, but a possibility.

 

[SleutherGirl]

I think the resemblance, especially to this reconstruction, is uncanny and the stats line up. The telephone contact with her by a family member in 1984 can’t be verified, so I think that leaves her open as a potential match.

She's a bit young and far away, yes?

 

[subaw0067]

She's a bit young and far away, yes?

Not too much younger and she was last known to be in California.

 

[SimsGuy67]

She's a bit young and far away, yes?

Anita was last seen by her family at a family event, so it seems like she was already estranged from them? From what I've seen and heard, the Los Angeles area is an attractive area for teenage runaways (even if Anita wasn't one, she was on her own.)

Age is also not too far off. I've seen larger discrepancies turn out to be a match.

 

[carbuff]

Anita was last seen by her family at a family event, so it seems like she was already estranged from them? From what I've seen and heard, the Los Angeles area is an attractive area for teenage runaways (even if Anita wasn't one, she was on her own.)

Age is also not too far off. I've seen larger discrepancies turn out to be a match.

Age is +/- two years, pretty close.

In the 70s and 80s, everybody was heading to Hollywood hoping to be discovered and become a big star, and people who weren't into the star thing were still thinking lots of good jobs, warm climate, beaches! beaches! It's still a big thing but back then it was a big shining beacon of dreams.