Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #18

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Not really anything discussed recently here in this post, but an interesting question. I don't think this was the situation, as where would KL had lived? Not Mexico or Evansburg alone, she would probably stay in Calgary close to JO/NO and according to everyone AL/KL were happy and had no problems, but definitely an interesting question to pose. Repost from LayzeeDayzee Thread #1 Pg.16

"Maybe they sold the home with intention to split equity proceeds and each go their separate ways........thus the diversely different stories about where relocating to. ?"

Given they were staying in the house together the night of the disappearance, and that NO stayed for a sleepover, it's somewhat safe to assume they were not in the midst of a separation or divorce.

Not many parents would let their young child stay in a potentially strained situation, and not many separating couples would want to stay in the house together at all. Even if it was an amicable split, playing house and family with a young child wouldn't be the norm.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Are you STILL lamenting over my betrayal? Good grief man! Get over it already! [emoji174]

... but it's so hard to accept. It feels like it ended before it even really got started.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Given they were staying in the house together the night of the disappearance, and that NO stayed for a sleepover, it's somewhat safe to assume they were not in the midst of a separation or divorce.

Not many parents would let their young child stay in a potentially strained situation, and not many separating couples would want to stay in the house together at all. Even if it was an amicable split, playing house and family with a young child wouldn't be the norm.

Oh yes, I agree, I do not think this was the case personally. I just found it interesting, that no one (that I can recall) had thought of this scenario on the forum.

It just goes to show, sometimes we think that we've thought of everything, but we haven't always.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

... but it's so hard to accept. It feels like it ended before it even really got started.

OOTD+news.talk=LoveFest2014…. I wonder if this is a WS first? lol! :loveyou::floorlaugh:

 

[LoisLane]

http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Whitemark_Homes_Inc_(WTMK)/Filing/8-K/2008/Ex-2.1/D2157401

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/42284/000114420408043094/v121499_ex2-1.htm

So I have read these documents and I am lost. Can you explain very simply so that I may understand? What has happened here and what were the gains and losses?

Is this link related? What happened to AL in the process?

http://www.marketwired.com/press-re...ditional-board-members-otcqb-fcps-1852696.htm

 

[Tinkerbel1]

There are 28 missing people in Alberta right now, including the Liknes' and NO. That's 28 too many!

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Alright Ms. Lane, you and I are the only ones on now...I'm off to bed. fftobed:

Sleep with angels (if you're not up sleuthing all night)

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Does anyone remember who owned the Cessna that was mentioned in a thread back in July off-the-top-of-their-head? If not, I shall go looking for it.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Does anyone remember who owned the Cessna that was mentioned in a thread back in July off-the-top-of-their-head? If not, I shall go looking for it.

I want to say AL had one or was it another Liknes? I thought AL had one in his name at one point, not positive. AL did have his flying licencse IIRC.

 

[Sillybilly]

I want to say AL had one or was it another Liknes? I thought AL had one in his name at one point, not positive. AL did have his flying licencse IIRC.

Here's the start of discussion re the Cessna:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...algary-30-June-2014-6&p=10734167#post10734167

Link to the registration info:

http://www.regosearch.com/aircraft/ca/GVZI

hth

 

[Sillybilly]

FWIW, the addy on the Cessna registration tracks back to a business / a Ron L in Veteran, so not AL.

 

[LoisLane]

FWIW, the addy on the Cessna registration tracks back to a business / a Ron L in Veteran, so not AL.

The Liknes family tree has roots from Veteran.

 

[Sillybilly]

The Liknes family tree has roots from Veteran.

For sure ... not saying they aren't relatives, was just to point out who the craft was actually registered to.

 

[stan laurel]

Does anyone know if there is footage to match this older article? Link below and also the piece that confuses me.

http://www.timescolonist.com/police-have-other-leads-for-missing-calgary-boy-grandparents-1.1198087

Police investigators prepare to search a hay field north of Airdrie, Alta., Monday, July 7, 2014, looking for clues to the disappearance of five-year-old Nathan O'Brien and his grandparents. Calgary police say the man taken in for questioning in the case is not the only person of interest in their investigation. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

and this bit too

CALGARY - Calgary police say a man taken in for questioning in the case of a missing five-year-old boy and his grandparents is not the only lead in their investigation. But spokesman Kevin Brookwell isn't willing to discuss what other angles police are pursuing. "There are other investigative leads we are following up on, so he is not the only person of interest that we are looking at," Brookwell told reporters Tuesday. Asked to clarify, Brookwell backed away from suggesting there were other persons of interest in the case. "He's ... a person of interest that we have interviewed, but there are other investigative leads that we are following up on." - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

I get that thing evolve early in investigations but I wonder who the "other" is/was?

 

[LoisLane]

For sure ... not saying they aren't relatives, was just to point out who the craft was actually registered to.

Thanks for posting the thread for the cessna info. It is quite informative especially as I scroll through that particular thread. Looks like the details were forwarded to LE from a WS Sleuth. The threads in the beginning are sure helpful! I wish we had an easy way to download and print!

 

[LoisLane]

Does anyone know if there is footage to match this older article? Link below and also the piece that confuses me.

http://www.timescolonist.com/police-have-other-leads-for-missing-calgary-boy-grandparents-1.1198087

Police investigators prepare to search a hay field north of Airdrie, Alta., Monday, July 7, 2014, looking for clues to the disappearance of five-year-old Nathan O'Brien and his grandparents. Calgary police say the man taken in for questioning in the case is not the only person of interest in their investigation. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

and this bit too

CALGARY - Calgary police say a man taken in for questioning in the case of a missing five-year-old boy and his grandparents is not the only lead in their investigation. But spokesman Kevin Brookwell isn't willing to discuss what other angles police are pursuing. "There are other investigative leads we are following up on, so he is not the only person of interest that we are looking at," Brookwell told reporters Tuesday. Asked to clarify, Brookwell backed away from suggesting there were other persons of interest in the case. "He's ... a person of interest that we have interviewed, but there are other investigative leads that we are following up on." - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

I get that thing evolve early in investigations but I wonder who the "other" is/was?

Even in the last press conference the wording around the possibility of another POI or suspect has always stuck out for me. It felt like it was a safe way to say no they don't but IIRC they said "not at this time" as in they may have someone later.

ETA: Trying to find the transcript, will post the comments once I do.

I wonder if the defence lawyer has reviewed the evidence and he thinks there is a good chance DG is not guilty or there are errors in evidence presented can they appeal to the courts prior to May?

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Does anyone know if there is footage to match this older article? Link below and also the piece that confuses me.

http://www.timescolonist.com/police-have-other-leads-for-missing-calgary-boy-grandparents-1.1198087

Police investigators prepare to search a hay field north of Airdrie, Alta., Monday, July 7, 2014, looking for clues to the disappearance of five-year-old Nathan O'Brien and his grandparents. Calgary police say the man taken in for questioning in the case is not the only person of interest in their investigation. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

and this bit too

CALGARY - Calgary police say a man taken in for questioning in the case of a missing five-year-old boy and his grandparents is not the only lead in their investigation. But spokesman Kevin Brookwell isn't willing to discuss what other angles police are pursuing. "There are other investigative leads we are following up on, so he is not the only person of interest that we are looking at," Brookwell told reporters Tuesday. Asked to clarify, Brookwell backed away from suggesting there were other persons of interest in the case. "He's ... a person of interest that we have interviewed, but there are other investigative leads that we are following up on." - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

I get that thing evolve early in investigations but I wonder who the "other" is/was?

Interesting you should ask, I've often wondered what happened with "the other person of interest". It seems that this fell off the grid after this comment was made...never heard another word, at least I haven't. Maybe they brought their "other POI" in for an interview and it turned out to be a false lead...or, perhaps there wasn't one after all; it may be LE just thought they might have one at that point and it turned out to be a dead end shortly thereafter.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Even in the last press conference the wording around the possibility of another POI or suspect has always stuck out for me. It felt like it was a safe way to say no they don't but IIRC they said "not at this time" as in they may have someone later.

ETA: Trying to find the transcript, will post the comments once I do.

I wonder if the defence lawyer has reviewed the evidence and he thinks there is a good chance DG is not guilty or there are errors in evidence presented can they appeal to the courts prior to May?

I imagine there may be some intervening agency should this be the case...if not before the preliminary hearing, then at the very least, this may be presented at the preliminary hearing.

"During a Preliminary Hearing, a judge may proceed with the charges, drop the charges, downgrade the charges or upgrade the charges". In most cases the judge will find that there is enough evidence to proceed with the charges and order a trial. If the judge does not find that there is enough evidence to try the accused on the charges that have been laid, the charges against the accused will be dropped."

See Page 19 of the below document:
http://crcvc.ca/docs/Navigating-the-Canadian-CJS.pdf

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Thanks for posting the thread for the cessna info. It is quite informative especially as I scroll through that particular thread. Looks like the details were forwarded to LE from a WS Sleuth. The threads in the beginning are sure helpful! I wish we had an easy way to download and print!

Yes thanks sillybilly for the links, excellent info!

ITA Lois, the early threads are full of tons of good info from some awesome sleuthers. I only started trying to go back in time to them because there's a saying that when you reach a dead end or hit a road block its good to go back to the beginning and start over so to speak. And with what we know now, it's definitely interesting to read.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Does anyone know if there is footage to match this older article? Link below and also the piece that confuses me.

http://www.timescolonist.com/police-have-other-leads-for-missing-calgary-boy-grandparents-1.1198087

Police investigators prepare to search a hay field north of Airdrie, Alta., Monday, July 7, 2014, looking for clues to the disappearance of five-year-old Nathan O'Brien and his grandparents. Calgary police say the man taken in for questioning in the case is not the only person of interest in their investigation. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

and this bit too

CALGARY - Calgary police say a man taken in for questioning in the case of a missing five-year-old boy and his grandparents is not the only lead in their investigation. But spokesman Kevin Brookwell isn't willing to discuss what other angles police are pursuing. "There are other investigative leads we are following up on, so he is not the only person of interest that we are looking at," Brookwell told reporters Tuesday. Asked to clarify, Brookwell backed away from suggesting there were other persons of interest in the case. "He's ... a person of interest that we have interviewed, but there are other investigative leads that we are following up on." - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/police...y-grandparents-1.1198087#sthash.OojJ1RDO.dpuf

I get that thing evolve early in investigations but I wonder who the "other" is/was?

If there is a second person involved, it's either:

1. Someone *very close* to KL/AL or;
2. An associate/friend of DG

If there is someone LE is currently and secretly surveilling, no one would hear about it until an arrest is made regarding that person.

JMO.