CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #9

[Deleted member 102539]

Remembering:

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2259959-if-audrey-gleave-s-dogs-could-speak-/

One thing detectives have said is that the homicide was not, as police originally speculated, a random attack. That had been the reason police initially urged Audrey’s neighbours to be “vigilant.”

Togi and Schatze have played a role in the investigation. Detectives took DNA samples from the dogs — blood and hair — but it is unclear why.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6...d-after-report-of-sexual-assault-at-grey-cup/

Brantford man arrested after report of sexual assault at Grey Cup

I stumbled upon the last name. - Of course, sex assault and killing isn't comparable except the brutality someone maybe able of.

 

[dotr]

Posting this recipe in honour of Ms.Audrey Gleave.

[h=1]How to make an epic, edible gingerbread chess set[/h]

https://www.thestar.com/life/christ...ake-an-epic-edible-gingerbread-chess-set.html

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Kinsman said he prefers to remember his dear friend for her depth, sweetness, giving and friendly nature.

While private was the word many people used to describe Gleave, Vanstone said she was many things: animal lover, someone who loved her smokes and candies, coffee groupie, bargain shopper, car-buff, funny and stubborn.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2183648--that-s-so-audrey-/

:xmastree::xmastree::xmastree::xmastree::xmastree:

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/2182067-a-complicated-vicious-killing/

A complicated, vicious killing

Audrey was complicated. So too is her murder.

There are items missing from Audrey's house, he says. What they are, he won't say. Valuables? Trophies?

Some items have been found during the ground searches. He again won't say what they are and adds detectives do not know for sure they relate to the homicide.

Mrs. Gleave stood out among the Hill Park staff.

“She had red hair, red lipstick, red fingernails and high, high heels,” he says. “She was quite a striking woman. And she had a real love for cars. She drove a bright yellow Rover.”

De Graaf was falling behind in math and Audrey wouldn't have that. So she tutored him. Three nights a week he would stay late for extra help. And since he lived on the way to her Ancaster house, she would drop him off at home.

“Textbook open on her steering wheel, down the Mountain we'd drive, Mrs. Gleave explaining a concept or two. But that's the kind of teacher she was! Loved teaching and loved her subject.”

“What she did for me was very kind,” he says emotionally.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

“We're a close community,” he said. “We're all brainstorming about how and why it happened.”

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/2183375-derelict-barn-scoured-for-clues/

 

[deugirtni]

Merry Christmas FromGermany, hope you had a happy day!

A moment of silence to remember poor Audrey on the 5th anniversary of her brutal murder.. and still no arrest.

Wow, I guess tomorrow marks SIX years since AG's brutal murder, and still no suspects and seemingly no progress in the investigation. Very disappointing.

 

[Snoopster]

I will be thinking of Audrey over the New Year. It still surprises me that this case has not been solved yet. Surely there are clues for LE to work with.

:notgood:

Who walked up to Audrey's house that day? What did they want? Did they get what they wanted??

 

[dotr]

https://www.crcpress.com/Crime-Scene-Staging-Dynamics-in-Homicide-Cases/Pettler/p/book/9781498711180

[h=1]Crime Scene Staging Dynamics in Homicide Cases[/h] Laura Gail Pettler

• Includes many case examples that explore how and when staging is done and why a criminal does it
• Touches on forensic victimology and explores the reasons why a person might become a victim and why staging may be performed based on this
• Covers the complications and challenges that crime scene staging presents
• Identifies the various types of crime scene staging explaining behavioral patterns and the intent of staging
• Presents crime scene reconstruction techniques to synthesize the physical and behavioral evidence in investigations and test hypotheses

[h=3]Summary[/h] Individuals who perpetrate murder sometimes pose or reposition victims, weapons, and evidence to make it look like events happened in a different way than what actually transpired. Until now, there has been scarce literature published on crime scene staging.

Crime Scene Staging Dynamics in Homicide Cases is the first book to look at this practice, providing a methodology of identifying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating the evidence of each case by learning to marry the physical evidence to the behavioral evidence.

 

[dotr]

Not related, but does support the possibility that a young person could be the perp ie. the " sexual component " in Audrey's case.
Dec 30/16
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/12/30/1514415/

A 14-year-old boy has been charged with sexually assaulting an 80-year-old woman while she was walking on a public trail in Nova Scotia’s Annapolis Valley.

 

[deugirtni]

Not related, but does support the possibility that a young person could be the perp ie. the " sexual component " in Audrey's case.
Dec 30/16
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/12/30/1514415/

Hearing about cases such as the one linked here is so gross; it's unimaginable to me how things like this would ever happen. Such a young boy, and such an elderly woman.. wow.

In AG's case, I hate thinking of the possibility that too much time was lost in the beginning of the investigation, while officers were pursuing a certain direction, in error. Tunnel vision, and stereotypes, instead of digging deeper and letting the evidence and the facts before them, and the statements made, guide them. Will nothing ever break in this case and allow the facts to come to light?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

“Our dad kept telling us that we weren’t going to write the year 2000.”

In 1999, as others joined the paranoia over the possibility of a Y2K bug that would bring down the world’s computers, Robert and Frank Nadler’s parents stockpiled food and covered their windows in tinfoil. The foil was to protect them from radiation.

“That’s when the tinfoil went up and it stayed up,” said Frank.

“It filtered down to us.”

Bob most of all, he said.

“He picked up on some of that paranoia — don’t trust the government, don’t trust your neighbour, don’t trust anyone. Don’t trust, period.

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgu...ved=0ahUKEwip14vdrp7RAhXecFAKHcyLAZcQ9QEINTAF

Apropos "tinfoil" I thought of Audrey. There was some mention of reasons of putting tinfoil onto her windows like "sunshine" and "heat insulation" or something other. Now I'm thinking of another reason like fear for radiation perhaps? AG was a super intelligent woman (LV said), maybe because of that she didn't trust the stupid rest of the (computer handling) world?

 

[Simply Caustic]

“Our dad kept telling us that we weren’t going to write the year 2000.”

In 1999, as others joined the paranoia over the possibility of a Y2K bug that would bring down the world’s computers, Robert and Frank Nadler’s parents stockpiled food and covered their windows in tinfoil. The foil was to protect them from radiation.

“That’s when the tinfoil went up and it stayed up,” said Frank.

“It filtered down to us.”

Bob most of all, he said.

“He picked up on some of that paranoia — don’t trust the government, don’t trust your neighbour, don’t trust anyone. Don’t trust, period.

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgu...ved=0ahUKEwip14vdrp7RAhXecFAKHcyLAZcQ9QEINTAF

Apropos "tinfoil" I thought of Audrey. There was some mention of reasons of putting tinfoil onto her windows like "sunshine" and "heat insulation" or something other. Now I'm thinking of another reason like fear for radiation perhaps? AG was a super intelligent woman (LV said), maybe because of that she didn't trust the stupid rest of the (computer handling) world?

Interesting reference you shared, thanks! I missed that AG had tinfoil over her windows, but excellent point that a fear of radiation could've been the reason (I had read prior that others thought the same thing, back in '99).


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[dotr]

Did Audrey keep the tinfoil up all year long, if so,she might have just said it was to keep out the heat, imo.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2216816-audrey-s-story-continues/
Sep 19, 2011

[h=1]Audrey’s story continues[/h] [h=2]Part II - Eyes wide open: Jon Wells looks at the intensely private, enigmatic woman[/h] Hamilton Spectator By Jon Wells

She married the wrong man — three times. She had a career as a high-school science teacher, but could well have become a renowned nuclear physicist.

“She was a very smart person,” said Rita Poder, who sat at the card table with Audrey many times. “She built her own TV and was a computer whiz. I understand she was up all night on the computer, probably played bridge on it, too. And then she slept most of the day. In many ways, she was a bit strange. But a lovely person, a very private person.”

Her favourite show was The Big Bang Theory, a sitcom with characters that included genius physicists/geeks who interact with a waitress and aspiring actress

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/7...a-technology-in-effort-to-solve-1998-slaying/

COLD CASE: Sudbury cops use new DNA technology in effort to solve 1998 slaying

 

[dotr]

Bumping for Audrey Gleave, her interest in codes and cyber security was quite possibly well ahead of her time, wonder if she was aware of this type of alleged operation near her area?
imo, speculation.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/7...of-being-a-contract-hacker-for-russian-spies/

Hamilton man accused of being a contract hacker for Russian spies

 

[dotr]

Thought of Audrey after reading about this recent crime not far from her home.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/7...bbed-at-gunpoint-forced-to-drive-around-town/
Apr 14, 2017

An Ancaster woman in her 80s endured a ride of terror Thursday as a man forced her at gunpoint to drive him around the city as he rummaged through her purse and made her withdraw cash from an ATM.

At 3:45 p.m. the woman entered her vehicle, parked in the Best Buy parking lot at 14 Martindale Crescent. The suspect was already in the back seat. He put a gun to her side and demanded she drive him around.

 

[whiskers]

Could Israel Keyes be responsible for Audrey's murder?

Apologies if you all have discussed this before. You probably did. I don't have a Keyes timeline.

 

[dotr]

It may take time,but there is always hope that a case will solved.
Might as well wonder if this guy might have passed through Audrey's neighbourhood, imo, just speculation.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/james-gray-cold-case-dorothy-darnel-1.4094402

[h=1]Cold case: Charges laid 20 years after grandmother beaten, sexually assaulted[/h]
[h=3]Man accused of beating and sexually assaulting 79 year-old grandmother arrested after DNA link[/h] CBC News Posted: May 01, 2017

On Oct. 4, 1996, a man broke into the home of Dorothy Darnel, 79, and "viciously attacked" her in her home when she was sleeping, police said.

She was beaten so severely, her cheekbone was shattered and she lost sight in one eye. When she lost consciousness, the attacker sexually assaulted her, according to police.

"The case resonated throughout the community," said Chief Const. Dave Jones, who was part of the investigation at the time.

"There were a lot of seniors who were then afraid to live in their own homes. In fact, Ms. Darnel never returned to her own home."

Last year, Coquitlam RCMP collected DNA at the scene of a break and enter and got a hit in the database from the 1996 file.

James Gray, 48, of Vancouver has been arrested and charged

 

[deugirtni]

It may take time,but there is always hope that a case will solved.
Might as well wonder if this guy might have passed through Audrey's neighbourhood, imo, just speculation.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/james-gray-cold-case-dorothy-darnel-1.4094402

Hopeful that *some day* this crime will be solved. Not sure if this guy was in AG's area, but amazing how they have the capability to link crimes up via DNA, even decades later. They must have some kind of evidence like that in AG's case, since the original homeless suspect was freed when results came back to police with results not as they had expected/hoped. Or perhaps it was the other way, in that there was nothing about that suspect (such as the knife he was carrying) having any evidence of AG, and none of the suspect's hair or other DNA was found on AG's property/person.

Conversely however, any hairs or other DNA (other than perhaps semen) that had been found on AG's property or person which may have belonged to someone who was known to have visited her home/garage, would be inconclusive, since it could have been shed there prior to the crime. Too bad DNA can't also tell us the date when it was shed!
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2011/06/03/police-ran-out-of-straws