JayFriend
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Yes. And my next question was : WHY ? Why hang her body from the pool railing ? Something important here, imo.
To make a statement? Similar to a mob execution?
Yes. And my next question was : WHY ? Why hang her body from the pool railing ? Something important here, imo.
I can't believe they would have an open house while still living there in this high-end home! Anyone could have come in. Someone could have cased the place or even one of his lawsuit enemies could have come in and checked the camera locations and maybe someone who came in shut off that camera in the pool area. You have to put down your name, but they could make that up.
So two robe belts then ?
I am observing that the cousins who got millions are now going after the estate.
Apparently millions are not enough
You cant just shut off a camera on a security system. Have to have access to codes whether on a phone, iPad and/or a control panel etc
You can yank the cable, unless it's wireless.
You can yank the cable, unless it's wireless.
Otto, Hard to figure out the belts being used ? If the belt was wrapped around someone's neck, how would whatever belt length was left fit around the railing, and be tied to keep it from slipping off ? Would there be enough belt length ? A necktie might have worked better ?
Half sitting could mean your bottom is off the ground and your hands can't reach the ground, but you could still be in an L shape position, legs out, with heels on the ground. If a rope or belt has suddenly and violently cut off your breathing, I would imagine that total panic sets in and there's no easy way to just pop right back up. Even if you got your feet up under your bottom and tried to stand, the noose may not be "loosenable" at that point, and it might not be long enough for you to stand all the way up. Suppose you forcefully stood up with only 2 feet of slack--you would strangle yourself in the other direction. By then, you may already have lost consciousness. I'm sure it's terrifying and debilitating.I would say murdering someone by hanging them in a sitting position would be virtually impossible as all they would have to do is sit up and take the strain off the belt. They would have to physically hold them down which would cause secondary injuries that would be quite evident. If you are going to hang someone intentionally you have to get their feet off the ground. Anybody that is hanged from such a low bar has done it intentionally or accidentally. Thats just common sense.
Usually with expensive homes the only people allowed to look are preapproved. No one needs looky loos which are often the case with an open house
I agree 100% with MMJ above. Also, could the family have wanted media coverage to cease or be vague so mourning and burial under Jewish religion could proceed (since suicide is a sin)
I read that they both died by ligature compression to the neck. And it was assumed that this meant the hanging. But, it was also stated that Honey died elsewhere in the house, and her body was moved to the pool area. So, she was strangled someplace else in the house ? With the doors locked ?
Honey had arthritis. An article mentioned pior to that she skied & was a tennis player. I would think an elevator would be helpful especially if the episodes were chronic & debilitating.We're not sure the elevator is actually there.
It shows up in the house plans...which means nothing...apparently construction problems galore...hence, 20 years of lawsuits against builders.
The RE listing mentions "Potential For Elevator".
AND then allegedly since there was some staff present within this household when all this happened-? Surely they would have heard or noticed the sound of a scuffle or some screaming...
Would that then make the staff member(s) implicated as an accomplice somehow? I know, that is basically a rhetorical question I'm asking.