How many people would think about using those though? (I wouldn't)Ok, but those zip ties are widely available at stores like Home Depot in various sizes and colours. In fact I have some myself (and I ain't a killer)
How many people would think about using those though? (I wouldn't)Ok, but those zip ties are widely available at stores like Home Depot in various sizes and colours. In fact I have some myself (and I ain't a killer)
How many people would think about using those though? (I wouldn't)
: ( I did early on in these threads. And of course I googled the subject of zip ties used as ligatures. So I’m off to throw my phone into the ocean.
I didn't mean, 'how many would've thought about using zip ties for that purpose, after it was reported that zip ties may have been used on the hands', I meant.. 'how many would've thought about using zip ties for the purpose of strangling someone (or handcuffing someone)'. Everyone but me? Mind you, I'm not into construction, but many close to me are,.. I'll have to ask around to see how many use those zipties, and might have them on hand, or think about using them.: ( I did early on in these threads. And of course I googled the subject of zip ties used as ligatures. So I’m off to throw my phone into the ocean.
I didn't mean, 'how many would've thought about using zip ties for that purpose, after it was reported that zip ties may have been used on the hands', I meant.. 'how many would've thought about using zip ties for the purpose of strangling someone (or handcuffing someone)'. Everyone but me? Mind you, I'm not into construction, but many close to me are,.. I'll have to ask around to see how many use those zipties, and might have them on hand, or think about using them.
Don’t throw your phone! I also recall reading about other instances where zip ties were used to restrain victims of crime. It’s probably not really surprising considering zip ties have virtually replaced rope.
@deugirtniHow many people would think about using those though? (I wouldn't)
Just a few examples of zip ties causing death..
2013
''The killing weapon was a zip tie, a standard gray plastic strip that is used to hold together bundles of steel or hard plastic. The zip tie was pulled so tight that it left marks that resembled railroad tracks on Roberts’ neck.''
https://www.heraldonline.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andrew-dys/article12286187.html
Lakeville man strangled wife, self with plastic ties
2007
''LAKEVILLE — Heritage Hill Country Club owner William Raynor strangled his wife with a plastic “zip tie,” then killed himself the same way, the Plymouth County District Attorney’s Office said yesterday after reviewing an autopsy report.
Spokeswoman Bridget Norton Middleton said William Raynor, 59, and Barbara Raynor, 60, were found in bed together Friday. Both had the locking fasteners known as zip ties, wire ties or cable ties around their necks.''
Texas man accused of killing wife in bizarre zip tie crime
2015
''KATY, TX -- A man is charged with murder in the death of his wife, in a bizarre scene where authorities believe he tried to make himself look like a crime victim.
On Tuesday morning, a Katy woman called 911 when a bleeding man knocked on her window and passed out, according to court documents. Ion Stanciu and his wife Ancuta Stanciu were both taken to a hospital by EMS. Ancuta was not breathing at the time, and died by strangulation, choked by a zip tie around her neck.
Ion told a Harris County Sheriff's deputy that he came home from work around 7:30am, but that he couldn't remember anything after that. He claimed he woke up with a zip tie around his neck, one on his legs and one on his hands, which were bound behind his back. He said that he left his bedroom and fell down the stairs, when the tie on his hands fell off. He was then able to get a knife to cut the zip tie off his feet.''
Keep milking the cow Kevin!!! It will dry up soon.What do the mysterious cases of Barry and Honey Sherman and Jeffrey Epstein have in common? A U-shaped neck bone to which too much significance is attached during a death investigation
For anyone regretting the paywall, you're missing nothing you don't already know about the hyoid bone and strangulation. This article just reinforces my belief that TorStar will use anything as clickbait to keep the sensationalist headlines going.
Thank you for finding the cases.
I didn’t consider the ‘railway markings’ the straps would leave. Maybe if the zip ties were placed over another material they wouldn’t leave those marks?
In the article:If, like me, you're a fan of police procedural novels (esp. UK), the lead detective ALWAYS rushes to the crime scene, before single-handedly solving the case, of course. But I wonder if that's usual here in Canada? This struck me as the most outspokenly critical of TPS Donovan has been. Is it just to spin another article, or does it actually matter?
If, like me, you're a fan of police procedural novels (esp. UK), the lead detective ALWAYS rushes to the crime scene, before single-handedly solving the case, of course. But I wonder if that's usual here in Canada? This struck me as the most outspokenly critical of TPS Donovan has been. Is it just to spin another article, or does it actually matter?
If, like me, you're a fan of police procedural novels (esp. UK), the lead detective ALWAYS rushes to the crime scene, before single-handedly solving the case, of course. But I wonder if that's usual here in Canada? This struck me as the most outspokenly critical of TPS Donovan has been. Is it just to spin another article, or does it actually matter?
Watch Broadchurch and Shetland on Netflix- fantastic UK murder series.
Here is a quote I found interesting from today's article: (RBBM)
"...Veteran former homicide detectives told the Star that in their opinion the lead investigator on a case should attend a crime scene when the bodies are present. The former officers spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case..."
So who could these supposed "veteran former homicide detectives"(note: plural) be? If they are retired, or no longer with the force, why would they be "not authorized to speak about the case"? To me, this suggests the following set of alternatives:
a) they are former homicide detectives but employed by the TPS and therefore not allowed to talk about the case. This seems unlikely to me given the KD reference to more than one detective- how many former homicide detectives are with the TPS in another capacity?
b) former TPS homicide detectives who are no longer with the TPS but still for some reason not allowed to talk about the case. There are 2 alternatives here:
i) They used to work on the Sherman case while at the TPS, but are no longer with the TPS and cannot comment on the case because they worked on it. This also seems unlikely- how many homicide detectives worked on the Sherman case and are no longer with the TPS?So my conclusion is, if KD's article is factual, he got this information from more than one PI team member. There seems no other logical explanation, and if true, isn't it likely that they leaked stuff to KD or discussed the case with him before now?
ii) They worked on the Sherman case but were NOT TPS homicide detectives at the time. They are not allowed to discuss the case because they worked on in some capacity. IMO this points the finger directly at members of the Greenspan PI team.
What do others think?