CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #19

[branmuffin]

So before LE arrived, there were 8 individuals roaming around various parts of the home:

1)cleaning lady Macatangay
2)personal trainer Megan Young
3)furnace service call man Allan Caruk
4)homebuyer's realtor
5/6)two potential homebuyers
7)seller's realtor Stern
8)'gardener' Claire Banks

Seems like a lot

It doesn't seem that unusual to me considering they were going to be gone for an extended holiday in Florida. Lining up all the individuals who normally do their part to keep the home running smoothly (including the personal trainer) seems like something Honey would have organized. I'm sure BS was pretty oblivious to the mundane aspects of keeping a house running smoothly, especially one that was on the market.

 

[branmuffin]

It is kinda strange. JS had a lot of his own money. Apparently Millions, so why on earth would BS pay for the surrogacy? Was JS that bold to even ask BS to foot the bill for that especially since BS has given him millions previously for other things?

It is kinda strange. JS had a lot of his own money. Apparently Millions, so why on earth would BS pay for the surrogacy? Was JS that bold to even ask BS to foot the bill for that especially since BS has given him millions previously for other things?

From reading many articles and comments, it appears that many are pointing their fingers at him. However, it doesn't make sense that he would be offering more reward money; if that were the case.

It makes perfect sense in a "Squirrel!!" sort of way.

 

[branmuffin]

Thank you. Why take a pic of it on the night of the murders? I know less than nothing about crypto so maybe one needs to photo it for some reason. Way beyond me.

Yes, why take a picture of that at all as an alibi. And on a good night with clear roads, it wouldn't take that long to get from JS's home to his parents home on the 400 or 404.

 

[deugirtni]

It doesn't seem that unusual to me considering they were going to be gone for an extended holiday in Florida. Lining up all the individuals who normally do their part to keep the home running smoothly (including the personal trainer) seems like something Honey would have organized. I'm sure BS was pretty oblivious to the mundane aspects of keeping a house running smoothly, especially one that was on the market.

I didn't mean that it was unusual, just that, imo, it was a lot to have been traipsing through the crimescene, potentially contaminating whatever evidence there may have been.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Found this FWIW

Where Was Barry Sherman's Son On The Night Of His Billionaire Parents' Unsolved Murders?

Jonathon Sherman, the son of late billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman, has spoken out following reports of an alleged request for him to repay his dad tens of millions of dollars.

okmagazine.com

As for why he'd taken that photo, Jonathon said he needed a “seed code” for his cryptocurrency account (accounts like Bitcoin utilize such methods as backup in case a user's system becomes corrupted). He confirmed that the hand in the photo was his own, and that he has a second photo on his phone taken the next morning at 8:30 a.m., with the location at his home.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I didn't mean that it was unusual, just that, imo, it was a lot to have been traipsing through the crimescene, potentially contaminating whatever evidence there may have been.

I also thought there had been too much traipsing around the house. JMO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

"The Bank of Barry"

Many lined up at the ‘Bank of Barry’ Sherman: Inside the $10 billion succession battle

Sherman daughter says her life is more tragic than a Shakespeare play; Son Jonathon says of his sudden wealth, at some point it is just ‘extra zeros.’

www.thestar.com

 

[deugirtni]

They must be around 4, I would think. One child is JS's, the other is his spouse's through two different surrogacies. They are around the same age. I could never understand why BS, who had given JS in excess of 125 million bucks would even entertain paying for the surrogacy. Apparently, he still paid for both, though. BS was quixotic, he was such a hard nosed business man with a ruthless streak but seemed like a soft touch with his kids. Honey was the hardliner.

I was surprised when you wrote this as I don't recall ever hearing that each offspring had their male donation come from each of the separate 'fathers'. .... nor do I recall ever hearing there were two different surrogacies.... nor that these two were born at separate times/dates. What have I missed?? Is there a link?

 

[deugirtni]

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08:56
Donovan: Well I mean, one hopes it, that it will be solved. This is not a case where there is anything forensically at the scene, as it's not one of these DNA cases where they're gonna discover something, as far as I know. ...

Just some food for thought....

So WHY is it NOT a case where there is anything forensically at the scene and it's NOT one of those DNA cases where they're gonna discover something?

The killer was in the Sherman home, possibly for quite awhile... possibly in various areas of the home.. being close and personal with his victims, not one, but two of them!.. so why would there NOT be forensic evidence including DNA? Is it because the killer was just THAT good that he perfectly took every precaution, covering every inch of his body to ensure no skin or hair cells were shed? Or is it because any DNA, fingerprints, etc., at the crimescene could've been there from that night, or from awhile before that, because the killer was known to have been in the home at some point(s)?

 

[dotr]

Two legacies, one dark mystery: Toronto elite reeling after violent deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman

A mystery that has possessed the city’s business and cultural elite unlike any in recent memory

nationalpost.com

Dec 22, 2017 rbbm.
''He was always politically connected, but I believe he saw this as a form of, perhaps, protection.”

'It’s remarkable that despite such high-profile controversies, the Shermans’ public image was only burnished over the years — in no small part because while Barry was collecting enemies, Honey was charming Toronto society, extending the couple’s philanthropic reach and making the family friends in high places.'

 

[Window21]

The killer was in the Sherman home, possibly for quite awhile... possibly in various areas of the home.. being close and personal with his victims, not one, but two of them!.. so why would there NOT be forensic evidence including DNA?

My guess is that they thought it was a murder/suicide so they never tried to take any DNA. By the time they figured out it was murder the whole place was contaminated and there was no point in trying to obtain any DNA. JMO

 

[branmuffin]

I was surprised when you wrote this as I don't recall ever hearing that each offspring had their male donation come from each of the separate 'fathers'. .... nor do I recall ever hearing there were two different surrogacies.... nor that these two were born at separate times/dates. What have I missed?? Is there a link?

Well, where ever I read it, I can't find it now. It was quite awhile ago. I guess I'll just say at this point in time, IMO.

 

[dotr]

Word getting around..

$35m reward to help catch killer of billionaire couple found strangled

The deaths of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in 2017 remain a mystery on the five year anniversary of the killings. The couple's son has upped the reward money to $35 million.

www.dailymail.co.uk

18 December 2022

''Reward to catch killer of billionaire couple is raised to $35 MILLION after they were found strangled beside their swimming pool in 2017: Son says 'I am forever haunted by what happened to them'​

• The deaths of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in 2017 remain a mystery on the five year anniversary of the killings
• The couple's son has offered an additional $25 million for information leading to an arrest, bringing the total reward money to $35 million
• Couple was found beside their indoor pool in their Toronto mansion, fully dressed with belts tied around their necks and attached to the pool railing
• When they died, none of their friends or business associates had heard from them in two days and there were no signs of forced entry into the home
• Initial speculation suggested Shermans may have died by suicide, but autopsy report indicated cause of death as strangulation, fueling theories of murder
• The Shermans' wealth, philanthropy work, and connections to Canada's business and political elite, has kept the mystery in the public eye''

'I think the kids are doing the right thing by continuing to keep this story alive, the investigation alive and the pressure alive on law enforcement and the investigation,' Avi Abraham Benlolo to CBC earlier this week.
Putting more money in place — perhaps it will provide the lead that is necessary. We really have a longing for closure,' he said. 'We still don't feel that we have the answers that we need. What happened to them? Who's responsible? We need to bring them to justice.'''

Canadian billionaire offers $35 million for information to catch parents murderer five years later

Jonathon Sherman bumped the reward from an initial $10 million Canadian dollars.

www.fox2detroit.com

December 17, 2022

Family of billionaire couple found strangled beside swimming pool, offering $35 million to find killer

Barry and Honey Sherman, two Canadian billionaires, were found dead mysteriously.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Word getting around..

$35m reward to help catch killer of billionaire couple found strangled

The deaths of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in 2017 remain a mystery on the five year anniversary of the killings. The couple's son has upped the reward money to $35 million.

www.dailymail.co.uk

18 December 2022

''Reward to catch killer of billionaire couple is raised to $35 MILLION after they were found strangled beside their swimming pool in 2017: Son says 'I am forever haunted by what happened to them'​

• The deaths of Canadian billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman in 2017 remain a mystery on the five year anniversary of the killings
• The couple's son has offered an additional $25 million for information leading to an arrest, bringing the total reward money to $35 million
• Couple was found beside their indoor pool in their Toronto mansion, fully dressed with belts tied around their necks and attached to the pool railing
• When they died, none of their friends or business associates had heard from them in two days and there were no signs of forced entry into the home
• Initial speculation suggested Shermans may have died by suicide, but autopsy report indicated cause of death as strangulation, fueling theories of murder
• The Shermans' wealth, philanthropy work, and connections to Canada's business and political elite, has kept the mystery in the public eye''

Canadian billionaire offers $35 million for information to catch parents murderer five years later

Jonathon Sherman bumped the reward from an initial $10 million Canadian dollars.

www.fox2detroit.com

December 17, 2022

Family of billionaire couple found strangled beside swimming pool, offering $35 million to find killer

Barry and Honey Sherman, two Canadian billionaires, were found dead mysteriously.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

The DM was accurate with this story (!!)

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

No forensic evidence is difficult to believe. What about snowy, salty bootprints. The killer must have worn a hazmat suit in order to pull this off. Did someone pay someone to ignore evidence?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/sherman-investigation-update-1.4464062

 

[ldlager]

My guess is that they thought it was a murder/suicide so they never tried to take any DNA. By the time they figured out it was murder the whole place was contaminated and there was no point in trying to obtain any DNA. JMO

I recall early on discussion here about seeing photos of the bodies being removed by the funeral home staff that didn’t have any protective foot coverings on. And also, long time posters will recall that police were so lax about securing the property that an Apotex employee who came to pay their respects simply walked right into the house after police had supposedly taken possession of the property. Windows guess may be very close to the truth, at least in the early days.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

But I can’t even understand how anyone could think it was murder suicide. So B killed H, tied her up, strangled himself then tied himself up. Crazy.

 

[branmuffin]

No forensic evidence is difficult to believe. What about snowy, salty bootprints. The killer must have worn a hazmat suit in order to pull this off. Did someone pay someone to ignore evidence?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/sherman-investigation-update-1.4464062

Don't forget that the home was being tidied and cleaned up constantly because it was on the market. It was also being staged to declutter the place. Believe me, the last thing I would think of is that TSP is somehow in collusion with the killer(s). They already have egg on their faces because of the initial missteps (the murder/suicide theory, not getting camera evidence, etc). I just don't see that as a viable consideration.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I recall early on discussion here about seeing photos of the bodies being removed by the funeral home staff that didn’t have any protective foot coverings on. And also, long time posters will recall that police were so lax about securing the property that an Apotex employee who came to pay their respects simply walked right into the house after police had supposedly taken possession of the property. Windows guess may be very close to the truth, at least in the early days.

Yes, I’m still puzzled by how they removed the remains, what they were wearing in terms of crime scene wear, and why this was done in full view of the media. They removed both of the deceased at the time.


Booties off:

Police Investigate ‘Suspicious’ Death of Prominent Toronto Couple (Published 2017)

Barry Sherman, founder of the pharmaceutical company Apotex, and his wife, Honey, were among Canada’s wealthiest couples.

www.google.ca

Booties on:

Billionaire 'may have killed wife before committing suicide', police say

Police are now investigating the deaths of Barry Sherman and his wife, Honey, as a murder-suicide

www.google.ca

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Yes, I’m still puzzled by how they removed the remains, what they were wearing in terms of crime scene wear, and why this was done in full view of the media. They removed both of the deceased at the time.


Booties off:
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Police Investigate ‘Suspicious’ Death of Prominent Toronto Couple (Published 2017)

Barry Sherman, founder of the pharmaceutical company Apotex, and his wife, Honey, were among Canada’s wealthiest couples.

www.google.ca

Booties on:
View attachment 388475

Billionaire 'may have killed wife before committing suicide', police say

Police are now investigating the deaths of Barry Sherman and his wife, Honey, as a murder-suicide

www.google.ca

So, to me, it looks like the cop told them to put booties on if for no other reason to look good for the media? They are looking right at the cop when they are without booties.