Canada - Bruce McArthur charged in murders of six men, Toronto, 2010-2017

[LoyalSleuth]

According to someone on Reddit (take with a grain of salt) the meta data shows a LARGE amount of editing and that's not including the background

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about his left eye, its possible the copied his right eye, flipped it and put it over the left because maybe his left eye was open when the pic was taken.

 

[andreww]

about his left eye, its possible the copied his right eye, flipped it and put it over the left because maybe his left eye was open when the pic was taken.

I'm a Photoshop professional and I see nothing to indicate that the eyes have been altered. Not saying they haven't, just that there is nothing that screams out to me. All I see is that the backgrounds has been removed and the shirt was added. The image could also have been cropped down as well. I say that because the resolution isn't good fro a photo taken so close. There would be more detail, even with an earlier model smartphone camera.

 

[SFB30]

I'm a Photoshop professional and I see nothing to indicate that the eyes have been altered. Not saying they haven't, just that there is nothing that screams out to me. All I see is that the backgrounds has been removed and the shirt was added. The image could also have been cropped down as well. I say that because the resolution isn't good fro a photo taken so close. There would be more detail, even with an earlier model smartphone camera.

With all due respect, I really think you should zoom in a little closer on that left eye.

On the left-hand side of the eye (from the perspective of looking at the picture), you can see a sharp line in the darkness. You see where they failed to give it a smooth transition. You see shadow, strong line, then skin tone.

IMO


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[Quinnergirl]

I'm a Photoshop professional and I see nothing to indicate that the eyes have been altered. Not saying they haven't, just that there is nothing that screams out to me. All I see is that the backgrounds has been removed and the shirt was added. The image could also have been cropped down as well. I say that because the resolution isn't good fro a photo taken so close. There would be more detail, even with an earlier model smartphone camera.

Hi Andreww. Could you please have a look at this link? https://mobile.twitter.com/jameswattie/status/970700746147721216?s=19

This guy has a picture of the photoshop breakdown. Not sure it is legit. Also wondering about the date stamp on it in the left hand/upper corner.

I hope this link works.

 

[Grey-St]

According to someone on Reddit (take with a grain of salt) the meta data shows a LARGE amount of editing and that's not including the background

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Yeah, I would actually agree. I can tell, personally.

Very sad to be honest, given what it might mean.

 

[Grey-St]

I'm a Photoshop professional and I see nothing to indicate that the eyes have been altered. Not saying they haven't, just that there is nothing that screams out to me. All I see is that the backgrounds has been removed and the shirt was added. The image could also have been cropped down as well. I say that because the resolution isn't good fro a photo taken so close. There would be more detail, even with an earlier model smartphone camera.

The eye is definitely photoshopped. Take another look carefully. It's like the image is cut a pasted there. There's a distinct line, no transition.

 

[dumpater]

The eye is definitely photoshopped. Take another look carefully. It's like the image is cut a pasted there. There's a distinct line, no transition.

There's also a weird yellow line on his neck. It looks like they tried to cover something up. The t-shirt if you zoom in to his left shoulder you can see the original image poking through.

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[dotr]

rbbm.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bruce-mcarthur-latest-body-toronto-police-1.4561794

Forensic pathologists have struggled to identify the remaining four sets of remains and determine the cause of death in each instance, according to Idsinga. While police completed their search of "up to 20" planters that McArthur was known to use weeks ago, it only recently became evident that remains of a seventh person were among those previously discovered.

"I can't really get into specifics about why we didn't realize there were seven remains there, but we had the planters several weeks ago," he told reporters

Idsinga said previously that investigators are probing missing persons cases dating back decades. There are also a number of other properties in the Greater Toronto Area that will get renewed attention from police as the weather warms and the ground thaws.

 

[MissUnderstood]

sidenote.... sadly i looks like this may be a trophy photo. the background has been erased and the detective won't comment on how they obtained it.. he also said he 'believes the individual is dead"

I think you’re right, and I suspect trophy photos is what was found and why murder charges were laid without bodies being identified. Just moo.


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[Wondergirl]

I'm a Photoshop professional and I see nothing to indicate that the eyes have been altered. Not saying they haven't, just that there is nothing that screams out to me. All I see is that the backgrounds has been removed and the shirt was added. The image could also have been cropped down as well. I say that because the resolution isn't good fro a photo taken so close. There would be more detail, even with an earlier model smartphone camera.

Very good point.

When you say cropped down, is that the same thing as zoomed in?

 

[Tealgrove]

To me the neck doesn't look right. I actually hate to venture a guess as to why.

This is just getting worse and worse. This guy is a MONSTER.

Wow.

 

[dotr]

rbbm.
http://canoe.com/news/local-news/sev...c-95aae886784d

Police also confirmed on Monday that they have recovered the seventh set of remains from the Mallory Cres. address where they’ve spent the last month.

But law enforcement sources told the Toronto Sun that there is an eighth victim. Sources said detectives determined the grim result through McArthur’s alleged treasure trove of victim trophy photos.

“This is all very complicated,” the source said. “Investigators are working backwards with these photos, missing persons reports, cold cases and anything else they can get their hands on.”



On Monday, Toronto Police said they were reluctant to release the photo — of a dark-skinned man in his early 40s — but had run out of options in identifying him.


As the Toronto Sun first reported, McArthur allegedly had a penchant for keeping twisted trophies.


“We still have four sets of unidentified remains,” he said. “We’ve gone through fingerprints and dental records and we’re now into the DNA process.”
He added that the profile of McArthur’s alleged victims “changed over recent years.”

 

[cnmccarthy]

rbbm.
http://canoe.com/news/local-news/sev...c-95aae886784d

Oh my gosh. This is like something out of a horror movie. Those poor men and their loved ones. [emoji17]

 

[DueSouth]

Oh my gosh. This is like something out of a horror movie. Those poor men and their loved ones. [emoji17]

Echoing those sentiments. RIP.

I hope this gentleman is identified and his family at least knows what became of him.

This is unspeakably horrible.

 

[Snoopster]

I've been away for the past week and occupied with personal matters in the days leading up to that. Now that I'm checking back in, I am so saddened for the family of the man whose photo was recently released. I'd like to pull them close for a hug.

BM is a vile man. No one deserved what his victims faced.

 

[JuneBug67]

There was an article in the National Post earlier today that detailed the extent and kind of Photoshop edits. There were a lot, and as a Photoshop user I can attest that they are the kind of edits that would serve to remove marks and cover them by copying nearby skin patches, and then blending and smudging those changes to hide any obvious transitions. There were a lot of changes, and that could mean a lot of marks to cover, large marks to cover, an unskilled user, or some combination of those things.

I’m wondering if the victim was perhaps beaten. It would be consistent with the kinds of Photoshop edits, and also with the known MO in McArthur’s previous arrest.

http://nationalpost.com/news/toront...o-of-dead-man-in-bruce-mcarthur-investigation

Editing to add that the changes could also be used to fill in or create a section that wasn’t there in the original by using parts of the skin or hair as the source.

So incredibly tragic.

 

[Satchie]

I think you’re right, and I suspect trophy photos is what was found and why murder charges were laid without bodies being identified. Just moo.

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Yes, that was rumoured from the start, but I was hoping he'd kept their names, too.

Police found them the first day they raided his apartment, but he must have had a way to keep them well hidden from his son, who might have been tempted to snoop around his computer.

 

[Satchie]

To me the neck doesn't look right. I actually hate to venture a guess as to why.

This is just getting worse and worse. This guy is a MONSTER.

Wow.

And yet police don't seem to know how they died. Or is that something they have to verify with the actual remains, photos aren't enough?

 

[aber]

I believe that police have an idea of the manner of death in some of the cases

https://globalnews.ca/news/4062255/bruce-mcarthur-first-degree-murder/

Investigators have yet to release the cause of death of the victims.

“I believe we have some evidence which would indicate the cause of death but it’s not something I’m going to get specific about right now,” Idsinga said.

re: photoshop edits - http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...y-believe-is-another-victim-of-bruce-mcarthur

The man in the graphic photo was already dead when it was taken, according to Idsinga. He admitted that the image of the man had been enhanced and altered to “remove artifacts,” and analyzing the photo’s history in Photoshop shows just how much it’s been altered from the original.

According to a Post analysis, it appears that police were working to modify the photo between Feb. 19 and Feb. 22. The eraser tool — to delete pieces of the image — was used 56 times. The smudge tool which blends and blurs together selected parts of the photo was used 76 times. The spot healing brush tool and the clone stamp tool were also used at least 25 times each to create a final product with nine layers.

 

[cstewart0985]

re: photoshop edits - http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...y-believe-is-another-victim-of-bruce-mcarthur

Regarding the photo metadata: when I pulled it, Feb 5th is listed as the date the file was created. Which is pretty close to the Jan18th arrest date (18 days to be precise, but created on the Monday afternoon around 1pm). They started the photo editing Feb 19th and the last modification was performed Feb 22nd. Idsinga says they showed this picture to some people in the community as well as exhausted other avenues (I’m assuming comparing him to local as well as national missing persons), but it had only been 14 days since photoshop had been started and 11 days since the last edit by the time of yesterday’s conference. Is that enough time to investigate this part?


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