Canada - Canadian hockey team fatal bus accident tragedy, 6 April 2018

[Jealoushe]

..............................................or pissing in a bottle.

yep, that one too.

The police would not comment on the "dangerous" part as "it is going to court" which is a total cop-out - pun not intended lol

 

[JayFriend]

16 charges dangerous driving causing death, 13 charges dangerous driving causing bodily injury. LE said the act was enough to place the Dangerous driving charge and not just a traffic charge.

My pure speculation - drunk or texting.

It was specifically stated that the charges were for dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing death and/or injury. Of course there could be other charges laid later but after three months of having their feet held to the fire, the RCMP have at least come up with this. I'm sure they had to have all their i's dotted and t's crossed in case someone comes up with some super-lawyer and gets the case thrown out on a technicality.

 

[JayFriend]

Okay so what did he do that was 'dangerous operation'?

It's a catch-all that can include anything, like distraction, not stopping, proceeding when unsafe, etc.

 

[Gardenista]

I can't find a mugshot of this guy. Does Canada do mugshots and, if so, do they release them?

 

[bluesneakers]

Canadian Criminal Law/Offences/Dangerous Operation of a Motor Vehicle
249. (1) Every one commits an offence who operates

(a) a motor vehicle in a manner that is dangerous to the public, having regard to all the circumstances, including the nature, condition and use of the place at which the motor vehicle is being operated and the amount of traffic that at the time is or might reasonably be expected to be at that place;

In addition to the essential elements of time, location, and identity, the Crown should prove the following:

1. the accused operated a motor vehicle
2. the manner the accused operated the vehicle was dangerous to the public in the circumstances
   1. driving over the road lines / driving over curbs
   2. failure to obey road-signs, including stop signs, stop lights and speed limits
   3. driving in close proximity with other vehicles (i.e. "tailgating")
   4. collision with other car(s), bikers, pedestrians / collision with inanimate objects
   5. swerving while driving
3. the accused knew or ought to have known that the manner of driving was dangerous

 

[dyannaON]

I can't find a mugshot of this guy. Does Canada do mugshots and, if so, do they release them?

They sometimes release them but not very often. Usually I think media finds a picture. I think. They do mugshots though and that picture is also used on the inmates ID card.

 

[missy1974]

yep, that one too.

The police would not comment on the "dangerous" part as "it is going to court" which is a total cop-out - pun not intended lol

Not sure if it's a cop-out... we have so pretty strict laws with releasing information before preliminary hearings, and even then, usually don't get details until the actual trial. Just our laws here in Canada, not necessarily a bad thing, but it's frustrating when we want to know more ;-)

 

[missy1974]

I can't find a mugshot of this guy. Does Canada do mugshots and, if so, do they release them?

I'm sure the media will get a picture of him when he goes to court... he might have his head covered with a jacket or something though lol

 

[dyannaON]

I’m sure he will be held in protective custody as well.

Did anyone catch when his first appearance will be?

 

[gregjrichards]

Driver of trailer in Humboldt Broncos crash facing 29 criminal charges

Jaskirat Sidhu, 29, was arrested Friday morning without incident at his residence in Calgary. He is expected to appear next week in Saskatchewan court.

According to Williams, the maximum sentence for dangerous driving causing death is 14 years, while the maximum for dangerous driving causing injury is 10 years.

Just heard the news and came straight here . Thank you to all of you for the updates. I am not at all surprised by the charges and hope if convicted he gets the maximum. I’m glad they are taking the matter seriously.

I am concerned though that the accident will be blamed on his dangerous driving and no improvements will be made to the junction as it will be deemed unnecessary.

Is it likely to be a jury or a judge trial?

 

[Spellbound]

I’m sure he will be held in protective custody as well.

Did anyone catch when his first appearance will be?

Driver of semi in Humboldt Broncos bus crash faces 29 charges | CBC News

He was arrested at his home in Calgary on Friday morning and remanded into custody. Sidhu is set to appear in court in Saskatchewan next week, but no date has been set.

Sidhu was working for the Calgary-based Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd. when the crash occurred at a rural intersection.

Sidhu worked for the trucking company for a month prior to the fatal collision, according to owner Sukhmander Singh. Singh said Sidhu trained with him for two weeks and was driving on his own for two more weeks before the crash.

Sidhu was a bachelor of commerce student at Panjab University in Chandigarh, India, from 2008 until 2012, according to his LinkedIn profile.



He made his way to Calgary on a student visa in 2013 to study for a diploma in business administration at Bow Valley College from 2014 until 2015.

 

[dyannaON]

I don’t think he was drinking as I think he would have been arrested right away. I think texting or something. Or maybe doing a whole bunch of unsafe things. After the presser cp24 had a lawyer I believe speaking on their channel and was suggested things like , missing numerous stop signs, speeding, aggressive driving and a few other things that he said we can all do as an accident but if you do them all in a drive becomes on purpose. I wish I could find everything he said.

 

[bluesneakers]

I don’t think he was drinking as I think he would have been arrested right away. I think texting or something. Or maybe doing a whole bunch of unsafe things. After the presser cp24 had a lawyer I believe speaking on their channel and was suggested things like , missing numerous stop signs, speeding, aggressive driving and a few other things that he said we can all do as an accident but if you do them all in a drive becomes on purpose. I wish I could find everything he said.

After reading the definition that's what I think too - speeding, running stop sign, crossing into the intersection when it wasn't safe. One or a combination of things like that. They've been careful to get the reconstruction just right to put it all together.

 

[ldlager]

you can not compare a 2 vehicle accident to an intentional, planned event of mass destruction,

one is an accident, the other is planned, and intentional, completely different........good try though



because it's already safe as it is......history has proven that......

i will use very conservative numbers here, actual numbers are probably much higher,

lets say an average of 30 vehicles pass through this intersection per hour, so one vehicle every two minutes that would be 720 vehicles in a 24 hour period or per day,

720 x 365 days = 262,800 vehicles per year

262,800 x 20 years = 5,256,000

so that means 5,256,000 vehicles pass through the intersection in 20 years (again, conservative numbers)

there have been two accidents there in the past 20 years so we now divide that number by 2 = 2,628,000

so that means there is one accident for every 2,628,000 vehicles that pass through the intersection

the odds of being struck by a bolt of lightning are 1 in 960,000

so that means you are OVER 2.5 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be struck by lightning then you are to be in an accident while driving a vehicle through this intersection,

that seems pretty damn safe to me!!

 

[ldlager]

yep, that one too.

The police would not comment on the "dangerous" part as "it is going to court" which is a total cop-out - pun not intended lol

Or defecating through a hole cut in the floor of the cab. Evidently more common than you think

 

[gregjrichards]

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Driver of semi in Humboldt Broncos bus crash faces 29 charges | CBC News

He was arrested at his home in Calgary on Friday morning and remanded into custody. Sidhu is set to appear in court in Saskatchewan next week, but no date has been set.

Sidhu was working for the Calgary-based Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd. when the crash occurred at a rural intersection.

Sidhu worked for the trucking company for a month prior to the fatal collision, according to owner Sukhmander Singh. Singh said Sidhu trained with him for two weeks and was driving on his own for two more weeks before the crash.

Sidhu was a bachelor of commerce student at Panjab University in Chandigarh, India, from 2008 until 2012, according to his LinkedIn profile.



He made his way to Calgary on a student visa in 2013 to study for a diploma in business administration at Bow Valley College from 2014 until 2015.

“Alberta’s transportation minister says the province is still working on an overhaul of Alberta’s trucking licensing regulations in the wake of the Humboldt Broncos bus crash.

At a press conference on Friday, Transportation Minister Brian Mason said the province had been looking at mandatory driver training requirements long before the April 6 collision which killed 16 people and left another 13 injured.

Continued

Mason said there is no firm timeline for when the mandatory training program will come into effect but added there will be more details on the potential changes in the next few weeks.

“We will be announcing a number of measure very shortly that we have been working on at an accelerated pace, in light of the tragedy,” Mason said in Calgary on Friday.

'Significant and meaningful' changes coming to Alberta trucking regulations: Mason

Really pleased this is happening. His training was likely totally inadequate and insufficient.

 

[gregjrichards]

Lawyers are trying to get surviving team members and families affected by the Humboldt Broncos bus crash in Saskatchewan an "urgently" needed early advance on their collective $15-million payout.

Some families need the money to cover the cost of funerals, travel and — in some cases — the loss of income or even jobs since the life-altering April 6 crash, according to an affidavit filed in court last Friday.

Injured Humboldt Broncos and families of dead 'urgently' need advances from $15M pool | CBC News

It’s crazy to me they haven’t received any of the money yet. Hope it is done ASAP.

 

[Gardenista]

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Driver of semi in Humboldt Broncos bus crash faces 29 charges | CBC News

He was arrested at his home in Calgary on Friday morning and remanded into custody. Sidhu is set to appear in court in Saskatchewan next week, but no date has been set.

Sidhu was working for the Calgary-based Adesh Deol Trucking Ltd. when the crash occurred at a rural intersection.

Sidhu worked for the trucking company for a month prior to the fatal collision, according to owner Sukhmander Singh. Singh said Sidhu trained with him for two weeks and was driving on his own for two more weeks before the crash.

Sidhu was a bachelor of commerce student at Panjab University in Chandigarh, India, from 2008 until 2012, according to his LinkedIn profile.



He made his way to Calgary on a student visa in 2013 to study for a diploma in business administration at Bow Valley College from 2014 until 2015.

I thought the guy at the press conference said he was a Canadian citizen--or is he a visa overstay?

 

[will4u]

Okay so what did he do that was 'dangerous operation'?

that is what they are going to have a very difficult time proving in court, especially with no witnesses.....missing a stop sign is not "dangerous operation"....its a minor traffic violation,

police can charge anybody they want with a crime.....but actually proving it in court is an entirely different story,

this will be a very interesting court case, and right now im saying he will be dismissed of the charges,

i am hoping this man gets a fair trial like everybody is entitled to, and the jury will not have him hung and executed before it even begins just because that is what the public and police want,

police are only doing this to try to please the public,

failing to stop at a stop sign is a minor traffic violation, its not "dangerous operation".....good luck in court with that one, they are gonna need it!

 

[bluesneakers]

that is what they are going to have a very difficult time proving in court.....missing a stop sign is not "dangerous operation"

police can charge anybody they want with a crime.....but actually proving it in court is an entirely different story,

this will be a very interesting court case

How do you know missing the stop sign is the only thing he did? Has he made a statement?