Found Deceased Canada - Chelsea Poorman, 24, Vancouver, 7 Sep 2020
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This report says that another body was found that day in the apartment as well. Sad outcome.
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Search for missing 14-year-old from Port Coquitlam comes to a tragic end - BC | Globalnews.ca
Vancouver police told Global News Wednesday that O'Soup's body was found on May 1 inside an apartment building at 405 Heatley Street.
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I wonder why it took about a month to inform her family. I mean, she was on the news as reported missing. Maybe it took that long to make an ID? I wrote to the reporter to ask.
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Missing Indigenous teen from Port Coquitlam found dead in Vancouver
Almost a year after a 14-year-old Indigenous girl was reported missing, police confirm she’s been found dead. Coquitlam RCMP say the search for Noelle O’Soup has come to a “tragic end.” The teenager was reported missing May 12 2021. Vancouver Police Sgt. Steve Addison confirms O’Soup’s remains...
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I do realize what you are saying and don't disagree, but its a very young age, sadly. There are a lot of questions. Almost 1 and a half month to notify the teen's family. Was she in such a state that she couldn't be identified? IDK. I wonder if her family will bring this out to the public as Chelsea's family has.
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I thought it was beginning of May, that her remains were found. The family was informed just yesterday. Ok I just saw the actual date May 12. Very sad outcome. I just hope LE has more investagative information on what happened to her than they seem to have on what happened to Chelsea.I wonder why it took about a month to inform her family. I mean, she was on the news as reported missing. Maybe it took that long to make an ID? I wrote to the reporter to ask.
Missing Indigenous teen from Port Coquitlam found dead in Vancouver
Almost a year after a 14-year-old Indigenous girl was reported missing, police confirm she’s been found dead. Coquitlam RCMP say the search for Noelle O’Soup has come to a “tragic end.” The teenager was reported missing May 12 2021. Vancouver Police Sgt. Steve Addison confirms O’Soup’s remains...
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Actually post #185 it was May 1. In fact two bodies were found in that apartment. Same questions as post # 185. Its actually two months not a month and a half. Band demands answers after Indigenous girl found dead in Vancouver
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A common theme in all of these missing person cases seems to be LE lack of motivation (or whatever it is) to initiate an investigation. I see this time after time when authorities do nothing while it seems blatantly obvious (even to a casual observer) that the person didn't just "run away". I can list dozens of examples.
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Aside from victims like Chelsea who are eventually found and ID'd, there seems to be a lot of people washing up (given the locations on the map). And these are the 200 who people AREN'T IDENTIFIED. If there are 200 unidentified, how many people in total end up like this? What's going on in Vancouver, BC?
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So Tatyanna Harrison went missing just three days after Chesea was found. Tatyanna is currently still missing. I'm not implying that these two cases are associated but it's upsetting that Tatyanna's story is just recently being covered in the press even though she went missing over a month ago.
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Police looking for help locating missing 20-year-old Indigenous woman | News
A 20-year-old Indigenous woman has gone missing in Vancouver and RCMP and local police are issuing a public plea to help find her.
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I was just thinking about Chelsea and thinking perhaps the records of who the last contractor or maintenance person was who came to the property to do work would help. I mean before the last contractor who found her remains. Did they smell anything, like decomposing human remains. Well at least if they did smell something then at least we know she was there since the smell was noticed before actually being found. At least that would determine possibly when she was left there. I wonder if her family has looked into finding out who the contracted companies were that came to the property if LE hasn't already done this. Its of course after a long time but I hope its been looked into so at least the family can know when she was left there possibly. It must be really difficult to not know anything but the last detail of when she talked to her sister. That's basically it that is confirmed. Pretty sad. I don't know maybe the family knows when she was possibly left there. The back neighbors were kind enough to let APTN network to look at that mansion from their yard. So if that neighbor was there since Chelsea disappeared then perhaps if wind blew in their direction the smell would be picked up then that may also give an indication of when she may have been left there.
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Corpse gas is lighter than air so if the body was up on that deck the whole time there wouldn't necessarily have been an odor on the ground, depending on ground elevation. Cadaver dogs go right under bodies up in trees all the time.
That would be a consideration also. But at some point the smell would drift over somewhere when conditions were ideal for that to happen. Another thing is what about contractors going inside the home. I realize that's a totally different assumption on the smell drifting but wasn't any worker passing through the house up until she was found? I just find that aspect odd. If there were no city officers, worker, mainenance people walking through I can understand. But in that time not even one? IDK.
This poses another question did the person who left her there know about this aspect of the corpse gas being lighter than the air and was another way to throw off LE? I know people will say it could be coincidence but how many coincedences does this case have. A coincedence that an abandoned house where she was found, a coincedence that she wasn't seen on CCTV etc. No too many coincedences. Yes, there are many places in the provice to dump a body, but it would take some travelling and hiding the body before dumping plus the right time as well so an abandoned house is just as easy. I don't think this happened but even if she went willingly to this place then take her home alive and well call 9-11 if an OD, so there is much more to this than a medical event happening to Chelsea IMO. Someone left her there on purpose. JMOO.
We were wrong in assuming the patio was on the second floor. It was actually ground floor. Chelsea's case just got even more mysterious for me. Reading this Vancouver Sun article gave me some more clarity on the scene that she was found in. The clothes she was wearing the night she last spoke to anyone were on her remains. I just found it more confusing now. This article is from May I believe. Family looks for answers in woman's mysterious death behind a vacant Vancouver mansion
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David P. Ball · Last Updated: August 6 2022
''A series of recent deaths and disappearances of young Indigenous women in Vancouver has advocates and families questioning whether police learned many of the lessons — or applied recommendations of numerous reports — from previous tragedies.
The Assembly of First Nations, Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs, and now the former head of the province's Missing Women Commission of Inquiry have spoken out urging reforms to how police handle missing persons cases.
The latest tragedies include the deaths of 14-year-old Noelle O'Soup, and Kwemcxenalqs (Kwem) Manuel-Gottfriedson, 24.''
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''Kwemcxenalqs (Kwem) Manuel-Gottfriedson, 24, was found dead inside a building near East Hastings Street and Hawks Avenue on Saturday, according to a brief statement from Vancouver police.''
''A series of recent deaths and disappearances of young Indigenous women in Vancouver has advocates and families questioning whether police learned many of the lessons — or applied recommendations of numerous reports — from previous tragedies.
The Assembly of First Nations, Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs, and now the former head of the province's Missing Women Commission of Inquiry have spoken out urging reforms to how police handle missing persons cases.
The latest tragedies include the deaths of 14-year-old Noelle O'Soup, and Kwemcxenalqs (Kwem) Manuel-Gottfriedson, 24.''
Noelle O’Soup’s remains overlooked by Vancouver investigators for months | Globalnews.ca
The Indigenous child’s remains were hidden inside the unit where they were finally discovered, in May, for months—and somehow missed by investigators.
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''Kwemcxenalqs (Kwem) Manuel-Gottfriedson, 24, was found dead inside a building near East Hastings Street and Hawks Avenue on Saturday, according to a brief statement from Vancouver police.''
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Just want to note that the two young women (Noelle O'Soup and Kwem M-G) were found in the same apartment a man had died in in February. Apparently, he was a hoarder and the police did not realize there were additional bodies hidden within the one-bedroom apartment. "The remains of O’Soup, and those of another female in her thirties, were discovered inside one of the units of the privately-owned SRO on East Hastings and Heatley Avenue on May 1, two and a half months after the tenant of that unit, a man in his forties, was discovered dead himself." Source I don't want to detract from Chelsea's case as this is her thread, but wanted to make sure that information was not overlooked. A few articles note the man dying "in the same building" so didn't want that lost on anyone. They have not yet identified him but he was obviously a murderer. Hoping the police are looking deep into this guy. MOO
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@dotr and @Bopit your case has had some even more outrageous developments and really deserves its own thread so I went ahead and made one for it.
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VC - Van Chung Pham, dead after 2 year delayed warrant in one-room apt w/ 3 indig.fs, 2 deceased (Noelle O'Soup, Elma Enan), 23 Feb. 2022
Vancouver police have only now even released the name of the man found dead in a one-room apartment in February, followed months later by the discovery of two women's bodies by building maintenance. https://globalnews.ca/news/9086587/osoup-man-identified-charges/...
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A vigil was held in Richmond on September 3rd to honor the lives of Chelsea Poorman, Tatyanna Harrison, and Noelle O'Soup.
"Around 100 people gathered at Shelter Island Marina on Saturday afternoon to honour and call for justice for [them]."
"The vigil was organized by Butterflies in Spirit, a dance group made up of family members of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls (MMIWG) MMIWG2S."
"Around 100 people gathered at Shelter Island Marina on Saturday afternoon to honour and call for justice for [them]."
"The vigil was organized by Butterflies in Spirit, a dance group made up of family members of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls (MMIWG) MMIWG2S."
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Family of missing Indigenous woman found dead in Vancouver pleads for answers
On the two-year anniversary of her disappearance from downtown Vancouver, Chelsea Poorman's mother and sister released an emotional plea for any information that might help advance the investigation into her death.
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Chelsea, Noelle and Tatyanna Went Missing. Did Police Do Enough to Find Them? | The Tyee
In three tragic cases, the families of missing Indigenous women and youth encountered baffling police decisions and delays.
Identified! - Canada- Richmond BC, Female, Caucasian, 30-40, Located on older 40-foot yacht, 5 May 2022 - Tatyanna Harrison
https://globalnews.ca/news/9000828/richmond-remains-found-woman-identity-sketch/ ''RCMP officers in Richmond, B.C., are trying to identify a woman whose remains were found on May 2. Police said the woman’s body was found in the 6900 block of Graybar Road, along the south arm of the Fraser...
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Canada - Bodies of Noelle O'Soup and Elma Enan Along With 1 Surviving Female Found in Apt With Wanted Dead Man - Van Chung Pham - Vancouver
Vancouver police have only now even released the name of the man found dead in a one-room apartment in February, followed months later by the discovery of two women's bodies by building maintenance. https://globalnews.ca/news/9086587/osoup-man-identified-charges/...
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