on a side note, who would somebody talk to regarding this case if they wanted to provide more information?
I think it depends on the info as to who. <modsnip>
on a side note, who would somebody talk to regarding this case if they wanted to provide more information?
on a side note, who would somebody talk to regarding this case if they wanted to provide more information?
“Believe it or not, the Baltovich case continues behind the scenes. My dream is to eventually find the evidence that will prove who killed Elizabeth Bain.”
For June 19th, 1990, long distance records only.
1) from orange county fl to B home, at 7:52am for 4mins
2) from orange county fl to north port fl charged to B home, at 4:21pm for 2 mins
3) from orange county fl to St Petersburg fl, charged to B home, at 4:31pm, for 7 mins
4) from orange county fl to Toronto, charged to the B home, at 5pm, for 3mins. ( this is the phone call mr B made to national sports at cederbrae mall regarding the price of a tennis racket, as per his testimony)
That's all there is, and there are no long distance calls recorded on mb's phone for June 19th 1990, either incoming, outgoing, or charged to.
Let's try this - we know the main home phone was busy all evening - possibly beyond. Apparently no record showing any calls between Florida and Toronto at the B residence - both lines we know of.
Making long distance calls from one phone and charging them to another phone line is apparent if above reference is accurate.
Calls to/from Florida/Toronto on 19 and 20 June charged to sister C's home phone? She lived elsewhere.
I did realize the B home meant the main line.
Everyone had a calling card in 1990 - even if they didn't use it. They were especially useful for a family of 5 - safety was one aspect of the sales pitch - never be stuck anywhere etc. Not sure how anyone can speak with absolute knowledge a phone calling card did not exist in the B household.
No one had to be present to pick up the phone if charging to a line other than the one being used.
No one has to be present if using a calling card you mean?
And agree with you that no one can be sure they didn't have a calling card if they were in effect.
Other than that, I remember making calls and charging to my home phone and someone had to be there to accept, because if not you could charge any call to anyone's number and run up as much as you want
on a side note, who would somebody talk to regarding this case if they wanted to provide more information?
No one had to be present at an address when using a calling card - the card ID number was unique along with the phone number. Each family member could have a different unique ID number along with the phone number.
What about a place of employment? Where I worked in 1990 many of the employees traveled out of town on a regular basis - they all had calling cards to cut down on the cost of hotel phone calls to the office or home and eliminate the inconvenience of needing coins for a payphone. Senior staff did not always travel - but they had calling cards just in case.
Woodland,
Regarding the long distance calls.
I asked JS this morning if he remembered if Mrs B told him someone answered the phone that night to accept the charges and this is his reply........
JS ....."No i think we used calling card numbers at that point"
Just got off the phone with JS as writing this post and he says that CB explained to him that one of the phones, when you hung it up would very often not hang up correctly thus leaving it off the hook so to speak and if anyone called there would be a busy signal. She said it happened all the time and that's prob why Rb and Egen got busy signals that night.
And that fits with Mr B having a calling card, because no one would have to answer the phone for the charges to go through
CB claimed to someone a phone did not hang up properly - frequently - that caused the line to be unusable. And the household put up with this? Mr B said the busy signals were caused by some sort of interference.
for what its worth,
i had been calling the B household pretty much everyday to speak with my friend PB for at least one year previous to the disappearance, maybe even more then a year, we spoke pretty much everyday,
never once can i recall the line giving me a "busy tone", they had call waiting, the phone would always "ring", even if somebody never answered,
i recall many times where MR.B was on the phone, i would be calling to speak to PB, MR.B would answer the call waiting and say to me "sorry, (my name) not now" and then hang up on me,
but a busy signal on the line.............never
Do you have any ideas on how two people who had never met before both claim to have gotten a busy signal on that particular line on the same night of the 19th. Both Rb and Egen.
Very interesting info johnpaul, thank you, please keep it coming