Found Alive Canada - L.S., 13, missing from Edmonton, AB, found alive in Oregon, 2022 *arrest*

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otto said:
I wondered about that. In Canada, trial dates are set far in advance to allow time for crown disclosure of evidence and for defence to review that evidence. There are also delays in general because the courts are backed up.
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I think they do it this way because many of the cases end with plea deals. So they set the first date and then sometimes they negotiate a deal before that time. But I don't see that happening here.

If they agree in the initial hearing that it is going to trial, each side ends up giving an estimate of how much more time they will need to prepare and a revised trial date is given by the court.
 
katydid23 said:
I think they do it this way because many of the cases end with plea deals. So they set the first date and then sometimes they negotiate a deal before that time. But I don't see that happening here.

If they agree in the initial hearing that it is going to trial, each side ends up giving an estimate of how much more time they will need to prepare and a revised trial date is given by the court.
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In the US I think it also complies to the Right to a Speedy Trial in accordance to the 6th Amendment, which only the defence has the option of waving typically because they haven’t received complete disclosure yet.

In Canada the criminal trial must conclude within 18 months or charges may be dismissed and as a result the prosecution has become extraordinarily slow in laying charges to meet that timeline.
 
ITA NM has one of those faces. I feel like I've seen him before but he's so generic it'd be hard to say with 100% certainty.

Cannot recall was NM charged with internet luring? Wondering if this opens up the door for LE to dig around his computer/online presence? Not to mention LS as well, not as a guilty party but I'm willing to bet that NM was not the only one in her online "sphere" (perhaps NM had like minded followers who followed LS). IMHO this piece of garbage has done this before, probably quite a bit. I get incel/perv/P vibes from him and his creepy puppet show.

I also feel terrible for LS as she is so young and fell prey to scum. Hopefully she's getting the support she needs.
 
whiterhino said:
ITA NM has one of those faces. I feel like I've seen him before but he's so generic it'd be hard to say with 100% certainty.

Cannot recall was NM charged with internet luring? Wondering if this opens up the door for LE to dig around his computer/online presence? Not to mention LS as well, not as a guilty party but I'm willing to bet that NM was not the only one in her online "sphere" (perhaps NM had like minded followers who followed LS). IMHO this piece of garbage has done this before, probably quite a bit. I get incel/perv/P vibes from him and his creepy puppet show.

I also feel terrible for LS as she is so young and fell prey to scum. Hopefully she's getting the support she needs.
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yes, internet luring. :(
 
Aug 24 2022 Jonny Wakefield rbbm.
canoe.com

Oregon man accused of kidnapping, raping Edmonton girl faces new charges, including for sexually explicit podcast

The Oregon man accused of kidnapping and raping an Edmonton girl is facing new charges — including for a sexually explicit podcast
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''The Oregon man accused of kidnapping and raping an Edmonton girl is facing new charges — including for a sexually explicit podcast he allegedly recorded before the teen’s disappearance.''

''Madrano was initially charged with three offences under Oregon state law, including first-degree sexual abuse, second-degree kidnapping and second-degree rape. That total later rose to five with the addition of counts of first-degree sodomy and first-degree unlawful sexual penetration.''


''Adrienne Chin-Perez, Clackamas County deputy district attorney, told Postmedia the luring charge deals with an episode of Madrano’s podcast, which aired on Portland community radio station KBOO.

A month and a half later, the father said his daughter is still recovering from the trauma of the experience.
“I wish I could say she’s doing great,” he said. “I think she’s doing as good as she can do. She has good days, she has bad days.”

''An Edmonton police spokesman said the city police investigation is “ongoing” as detectives await additional information from other agencies. Madrano’s next U.S. court date is set for Aug. 30.
 
edmontonjournal.com

Noah Madrano pleads not guilty to abducting, sexually exploiting Edmonton girl

Police arrested Madrano in Oregon on July 2 with a 13-year-old girl who went missing in Edmonton on June 24.
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Madrano has a five-day trial slated for Dec. 13. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of life in federal prison with a 15-year mandatory minimum, the U.S. Department of Justice said.
 
JerseyGirl said:
edmontonjournal.com

Noah Madrano pleads not guilty to abducting, sexually exploiting Edmonton girl

Police arrested Madrano in Oregon on July 2 with a 13-year-old girl who went missing in Edmonton on June 24.
edmontonjournal.com edmontonjournal.com

Madrano has a five-day trial slated for Dec. 13. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of life in federal prison with a 15-year mandatory minimum, the U.S. Department of Justice said.
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Oh my gosh - he went to Canada 3 times and was grooming another underage victim! He is such a dangerous predator.
 
It seems three of the assaults happened in Canada and three kidnappings was well.

What this girl has been through is horrendous.

I hope we charge him in Canada as well. Pile it all on.

MOO
 
Tealgrove said:
It seems three of the assaults happened in Canada and three kidnappings was well.

What this girl has been through is horrendous.

I hope we charge him in Canada as well. Pile it all on.

MOO
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What I read made me tear up. He altered her appearance and recorded what he did. Hopefully used as evidence against him proving she was confined, praying there is EXIF data on the camera like the location.

I could be wrong but the minimum mandatory sentence in the US is still a harsher penalty than what he'd get in Canada. I also believe the prison system in the US is much worse than in Canada. I can understand why Lilas' parents have consented/agreed to have Madrano tried in the US. He crossed the border so I'm sure all sides will be working against him.
 
whiterhino said:
What I read made me tear up. He altered her appearance and recorded what he did. Hopefully used as evidence against him proving she was confined, praying there is EXIF data on the camera like the location.

I could be wrong but the minimum mandatory sentence in the US is still a harsher penalty than what he'd get in Canada. I also believe the prison system in the US is much worse than in Canada. I can understand why Lilas' parents have consented/agreed to have Madrano tried in the US. He crossed the border so I'm sure all sides will be working against him.
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I agree.
 
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