Canada - Liana White, 29, Edmonton AB, 12 July 2005 - #1

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Casshew said:
I disagree with this post too :hand:

Are you Canadian? Do you live near the area where this woman was abducted? If so, speak up and if not, take my word for it.
 
otto said:
and the reason is ...?
Because the normal non pregnancy weight for a woman 5' 4" can be 140ish

You are saying she was fat (offensive word) and a dumpling :rolleyes: where her reported weight of 150 is totally in line with a a normal healthy pregnancy.

and as for the other post... not all Canadians are happy to sit and let a story drop to page 2 or 3, we also can get riled up by stories like the states/aruba.. I don't have any problem with that being YOUR opinion, but please don't speak for all Canadians.

I agree with what you said about the colour of the SUV - what are the chances it was another beige one unrelated... very slim.


Edited to add link height and weight chart for NON PREGNANT women -
the 5 4" range is 114 -151
http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm
 
WHO GIVES AN F ABOUT HOW MUCH SHE WEIGHS OR SHOULD WEIGH OR WHATEVER - SHE'S MISSING - - that is what this thread is about. If you want to discuss weights between pregnant and nonpregnant woman start a thread in the parking lot!

I came here to see if there was any new news on her disappearance!

You guys - don't even go there!
 
Police puzzled by woman's disappearance

By KATHERINE HARDING
Friday, July 15, 2005

EDMONTON -- Nothing is adding up for Edmonton police officers investigating a baffling missing-person's case involving a 29-year-old pregnant mother of one.

"It's a hard one to piece together," acting inspector Jamie Ewatski acknowledged yesterday, more than 48 hours after Liana White was last seen by her husband, Mike, as she was heading to work around 6:15 a.m. Tuesday. It was the first formal news conference held by police since the search for Ms. White was launched.

Despite receiving lots of tips, officers still don't know what could have happened to the 5-foot-4, 150-pound brunette, who is four months pregnant. They revised her weight without explanation.

They don't even know if they are dealing with a crime.

"This is suspicious. This is out of character for this lady," Mr. Ewatski said, adding the possibilities are endless, including that she simply "walked away."

Around 7:25 a.m., the woman's tan 1991 Ford Explorer was found abandoned by a passerby, who called police, less than two kilometres from her northwest Edmonton bungalow. It was parked in a gravel parking lot near a recreational centre; the driver's door wide open, the keys on the floor of the vehicle.
Possessions belonging to Ms. White, mother of a two-year-old daughter, including a cellphone, a pair of shoes, credit cards and other identification, were later recovered close to the SUV.

Mr. Ewatski said a major priority is sifting through tips from people who claim to have seen Ms. White's SUV in the lot before 6 a.m. and even as early as Monday night.

It conflicts with a statement Mr. White gave police that he last saw his wife at 6:15 a.m. as she left for her job as a medical clerk at a downtown hospital, dressed in green medical scrubs.

Mr. Ewatski said the strange circumstances surrounding Ms. White's disappearance shouldn't cause the general public to be concerned about their own safety. "Edmonton is a very safe city," he said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050715/MISSING15/TPNational/Canada
 
poco said:
WHO GIVES AN F ABOUT HOW MUCH SHE WEIGHS OR SHOULD WEIGH OR WHATEVER - SHE'S MISSING - - that is what this thread is about. If you want to discuss weights between pregnant and nonpregnant woman start a thread in the parking lot!

I came here to see if there was any new news on her disappearance!

You guys - don't even go there!

:clap: good call Poco - I refuse to let this person drag this thread down - to "ignore" we shall go
 
fourboys said:
Possessions belonging to Ms. White, mother of a two-year-old daughter, including a cellphone, a pair of shoes, credit cards and other identification, were later recovered close to the SUV.

This gives me the feeling of breadcrumbs being left....clues or something.....
 
otto said:
Sorry for posting again but is 150 and 5'4" about right for 4 months pregnant? In your dreams?

This is a very fat woman no matter how you look at it. I"m 5'9" and 140 pounds so I'm not even going to imagine what a little dumpling that is ... and no way does that sounds right for her stage of pregnancy. 9 months pregnant on a 5'9" frame is about 165 pounds (giving 25-30 pounds for the fetus). About 5'4", 4 months pregnant and 150 - 190 pounds ... that's just plain fat. Speaking of which, why doesn't her husband know how much she weighs? 5'4" should weigh about 150 at 9 months pregnant max.
Beg to differ, otto. I'm 5'6'', I weigh 140 pounds, I am quite fit, and I am not pregnant. I am not big-boned either - I am somewhat well-muscled, and wear a size 6 or 8 most of the time. You just can't generalize about how much people ought to weigh.

My husband has no clue what I weigh - why would he?
 
Mr. Ewatski said a major priority is sifting through tips from people who claim to have seen Ms. White's SUV in the lot before 6 a.m. and even as early as Monday night.

It conflicts with a statement Mr. White gave police that he last saw his wife at 6:15 a.m. as she left for her job as a medical clerk at a downtown hospital, dressed in green medical scrubs.

Mr. Ewatski said the strange circumstances surrounding Ms. White's disappearance shouldn't cause the general public to be concerned about their own safety. "Edmonton is a very safe city," he said.

He also acknowledged that people were drawing conclusions between this case and other seemingly similar high-profile investigations, such as the Laci Peterson case. Ms. Peterson, a California woman, was pregnant when she went missing in 2002 and was later found slain. Her husband Scott was convicted of murder last year.

Mr. Ewatski said police have not identified a suspect at this time and that Ms. White's friends and relatives are being questioned, including her husband.

Mr. White recognizes that the public might be wondering if he had a role in his wife's disappearance. The heavy-duty mechanic told a reporter yesterday that he has been co-operating with police and wants them to finish investigating him quickly so they can refocus their attention on locating his wife.

"I understand, I was the last one to see her," he said. "My sorrow has now become anger," he said about the lack of information about his brown-eyed wife of 5½ years.Ms. White has no history of mental illness and has never been known to go missing.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050715/MISSING15/TPNational/Canada
 
Police are conducting forensic examinations of her vehicle and personal effects, which might suggest someone else had something to do with her disappearance. "Hopefully we can find a fingerprint," Ewatski said.

Michael White's brother Brian, a Brantford, Ont., paramedic, issued a public plea to fellow emergency service workers to help police. "Do what you can to find out any information that you can."

He also asked area farmers to search their fields for signs of White.

There have been conflicting reports from witnesses about when White's vehicle was first spotted, and Ewatski said police were working to sort them out.

Michael White has said he last saw Liana at 6:15 a.m., but a woman who reported the abandoned SUV said she saw it before 6 a.m.

"We are in the process of validating that, and I'm sure that we will have a better timeline because we've had a lot of tips," Ewatski said.

"In fact, I can say that one tip came forward that that vehicle had been there the night prior. Well, then we had a report of the next morning. So through the investigation we will tighten that timeline."

http://www.canada.com/montreal/mont....html?id=6341b822-337f-4d6a-be61-4c30e92c7be6
 
sandraladeda said:
...................You just can't generalize about how much people ought to weigh.

.................

Exactly.

The poor pregnant woman is missing and things aren't looking good for her. It disgusts me that someone would feel the need at this time to criticize her weight and call her derogatory names.
:(
 
otto said:
Sorry for posting again but is 150 and 5'4" about right for 4 months pregnant? In your dreams?

This is a very fat woman no matter how you look at it. I"m 5'9" and 140 pounds so I'm not even going to imagine what a little dumpling that is ... and no way does that sounds right for her stage of pregnancy. 9 months pregnant on a 5'9" frame is about 165 pounds (giving 25-30 pounds for the fetus). About 5'4", 4 months pregnant and 150 - 190 pounds ... that's just plain fat. Speaking of which, why doesn't her husband know how much she weighs? 5'4" should weigh about 150 at 9 months pregnant max.

There was a one year old at home. She may have still been carrying extra weight from that pregnancy when she became pregnant again....or she may just be overweight anyway. You would think the husband would have a good idea of what she weighed, though and the picture they show does not look like the face of a fat woman.
 
In response to discussion of the Canadian media response to crimes/disappearances of this sort -

It may seem that Canadians do not respond with as much "hype". I believe that may appear to be the case because we simply do not have the same number of media sources to pursue the story. Think of the number of networks, local news stations, and cable tv networks there are in the US and indeed in California. Of course the Laci case received a ton of media attention. There was more media nearby to cover the story.

Edmonton is my home town. I lived there for 34 years, and I can say for certain that this is a story which will receive a great deal of coverage locally and likely across the country. It just may not come off as being "hyped" as much as a case in the US.

I have been in Edmonton through many high profile missing persons/murder investigations. I would be surprised if this story did not receive prominent daily coverage in the local news, TV, radio, and newspapers. It will remain very prominent in the minds and hearts of Edmontonians. I can say this with great certainty.
 
sandraladeda said:
Beg to differ, otto. I'm 5'6'', I weigh 140 pounds, I am quite fit, and I am not pregnant. I am not big-boned either - I am somewhat well-muscled, and wear a size 6 or 8 most of the time. You just can't generalize about how much people ought to weigh.

My husband has no clue what I weigh - why would he?

Good point.
 
otto said:
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I think this is a bad situation that is not over yet. The reason the questioning started with Mike and her co-worders is because the police are trying to determine if she was seeing someone on the side, meeting someone in the parking lot.

I hadn't heard that about what they were questioning friends and relatives about. You talk about "Mike" pretty casually. Do you know him or a friend of his?
 
I have no idea what my wife (of 17+ years) weighs either. I wouldn't even know where to start. I can pick her up and carry her around although she fights a bit, but I just have no idea.

I suggest you start low.
 
Sorry if this has been answered, didn't see it. When did her husband know she was missing? Did they call him from work to say she had not arrived? Or did the cops notify him when they found the car?
 
Jess said:
The LE are having a press conference this afternoon about this case. Last I heard they were looking on the outskirts of Edmonton. Yikes !! I live on the outskirts. I saw the video of the husband to see if his eyes looked down to the left and they did !! We've all become so suspicious because of the Scott Peterson case. At least he didn't use the word amazing when he described her.As soon as I hear anything I'll post, but I'll be out when the evening news is on.

I look down and to the left when I am upset about something or I feel like I am going to cry. Does this make me a killer as well? I honestly do not see at all how this means anything! For some reason I doubt SP is the only person in the world to ever look down and to the left!
 
gagesmom314 said:
I look down and to the left when I am upset about something or I feel like I am going to cry. Does this make me a killer as well? I honestly do not see at all how this means anything! For some reason I doubt SP is the only person in the world to ever look down and to the left!

This is a theory that has to do with the memory portion of the brain being on one side of the brain and the creative portion on the other side of the brain (I can never remember which side for what). People who are trying to remember will usually look down and to the right. People who are trying to think of a convincing lie, may look down and to the left because of the sides of the brain they are using to answer a question.
 
sandraladeda said:
In response to discussion of the Canadian media response to crimes/disappearances of this sort -

It may seem that Canadians do not respond with as much "hype". I believe that may appear to be the case because we simply do not have the same number of media sources to pursue the story. Think of the number of networks, local news stations, and cable tv networks there are in the US and indeed in California. Of course the Laci case received a ton of media attention. There was more media nearby to cover the story.

Edmonton is my home town. I lived there for 34 years, and I can say for certain that this is a story which will receive a great deal of coverage locally and likely across the country. It just may not come off as being "hyped" as much as a case in the US.



I have been in Edmonton through many high profile missing persons/murder investigations. I would be surprised if this story did not receive prominent daily coverage in the local news, TV, radio, and newspapers. It will remain very prominent in the minds and hearts of Edmontonians. I can say this with great certainty.
I live just west of the City of Edmonton. On Global news this am, it was only the third or fourth story.Until something is found or it becomes an official criminal investigation, it will continue to slip in the news stories rankings.
 
I have just spent this last few minutes reading through all of the pages and something really is unsettling about this.
I hate to speculate, but they have a toddler at home already- which can be alot to handle for anyone-
what if the hubby decided he didn't want another child,
she was unbending and wanted the child,
a fight insued and got out of hand?:( Only a missing person case so far, no need to check the house for evidence as of yet?
Just a theory- maybe I am watching too many forensic file shows where this turns out to be the case. :rolleyes:
 
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