Canada - Liana White, 29, Edmonton AB, 12 July 2005 - #1

[tuppence]

but wouldn't the husband have to be an idiot to leave the car out all night looking the way it did - door hanging open, stuff strewn around - then claim she had been home all night? I mean he could have left the car with the door closed in a slightly more remote spot and it may not have been noticed - or at least if the door had been closed people wouldn't have looked close enough to be SURE it was the same SUV they saw.

I mean I usually tend to think its the husband cause statistically it usually is the husband/boyfriend...but it seems counterintuitive to me that he would have staged it like this given he did have time to stage things.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

 

[newtv]

but wouldn't the husband have to be an idiot to leave the car out all night looking the way it did - door hanging open, stuff strewn around - then claim she had been home all night? I mean he could have left the car with the door closed in a slightly more remote spot and it may not have been noticed - or at least if the door had been closed people wouldn't have looked close enough to be SURE it was the same SUV they saw.

I mean I usually tend to think its the husband cause statistically it usually is the husband/boyfriend...but it seems counterintuitive to me that he would have staged it like this given he did have time to stage things.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

if u wanted her to be found enroute to work u wouldnt put her in a remote spot-thats the whole point.
and there is no reason to assume the car was out there all night-it could have been out there for an hour or more..but the point is..he would have to have a story one way or the other so..if someone reported the car and he did this then I am sure he had another story-he was likely hoping the car would not be noticed and that her work would call - then he would say-she left at 6:15..
I am not saying he did it- I am saying that if he did it-he had a story for various possibilities-if someone discovered the car before and called police and they went to his home then he would likely say something else-that he did not know why she left in the night etc.
It will all unfold but he has to be a person of interest-until its proven he could not have been involved..and if he isnt involved that will prevail.

 

[Jess]

Newtv

Yes, I have been speculating along with everyone else. I looked for the body language and have questioned myself to see if I am reading something into it when there really isn't anything there. My first gut instinct is/ was that he is involved. The discrepancies in the time line bother me. I trust the reports given by the two witnesses. People who have a routine so early in the am usually notice that which is not "normally" there.
Never did I say that I had difficulty participating on these boards, nor difficulting accepting the speculation or theories. Nor am I talking for the "news teams" I have repeated only what I have heard on the news in Edmonton, citing the tv station.

And you are no doubt right about serial killers not changing their MO's. Course the Edmonton police have not said if it is just one person responsible for all the killings.
I was going to apologize as I was so shocked about being taken to task. I'll just try to change the language as I didn't realize that people would think that "my" position was the only position. I didn't realize I had taken a position.

 

[newtv]

Newtv

Yes, I have been speculating along with everyone else. I looked for the body language and have questioned myself to see if I am reading something into it when there really isn't anything there. My first gut instinct is/ was that he is involved. The discrepancies in the time line bother me. I trust the reports given by the two witnesses. People who have a routine so early in the am usually notice that which is not "normally" there.
Never did I say that I had difficulty participating on these boards, nor difficulting accepting the speculation or theories. Nor am I talking for the "news teams" I have repeated only what I have heard on the news in Edmonton, citing the tv station.

And you are no doubt right about serial killers not changing their MO's. Course the Edmonton police have not said if it is just one person responsible for all the killings.
I was going to apologize as I was so shocked about being taken to task. I'll just try to change the language as I didn't realize that people would think that "my" position was the only position. I didn't realize I had taken a position.

It was in reference to you saying our imaginations are running rampant..I dont think they are is all..we are looking toward the most likely possibilities-they are not fantasies in so far as improbable..to the contrary-when it isnt the husband or boyfriend its unusual and thats what I mean.
Unfortunately its the exception not the rule when it isnt the husband..thats the fantasy scenario.
I am not thinking you need to apologise I am seriously questioning why it would be such a fantasy to assume the involvement of the husband..if we do not then everyone would go free..he has to be considered and especially once there are inconsistencies-for there are none when the story adds up.
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added- and i apologise if I misunderstood- I am not too "right" to be wrong.

 

[Jess]

All right, I can see where you might have misinterpreted " our imaginations....." It was definitely not a slur on these boards or posters.Everyone I have talked to and met in this area has thought the same thing,...that the husband is involved. Having followed the SP and MH cases as closely as I have, I am well aware of the statistics.
I think for now I'll just watch and listen to the local news for any breaking news. I'll let other people report on what is being said by the media and police.

 

[Casshew]

Hypothetical - if the husband is responsible - he might purposely stage a 'dramatic scene' at the SUV - so it would be sure to get noticed and then the police would show up at his door where he could feign shock and surprise.

 

[sandraladeda]

HOW INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess who's NOT talking to the media NOW AND having his FAMILY speak for him because he's TOO UPSET?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fairness to Mr. White,

"...Liana's husband, Michael White, didn't speak to the media today, but his brother Bryan, a Brantford, Ont., firefighter/paramedic, made an impassioned plea for help yesterday..." (snipped from your link to the Edmonton Sun, http://edmsun.canoe.ca/News/Edmonto...132686-sun.html)

is a far cry from "guess who's NOT talking to the media" - your post makes it sound like he now refusing to speak to the media. This is not the case, is it?

 

[gagesmom314]

I don't take his not speaking to the media today as a sign of anything but he wants a day of semi privacy. He is going through a grieving process even though we do not know she is dead. If I were in his shoes I THINK I would make a plea to the media and then spend my time focusing on the investigation of my significant others disappearance. Especially when other family members can make pleas as well. Of course I may think different than most on here. I get the feeling that I do. I haven't seen anything other than a husband who is desperate to find his wife.

 

[Mabel]

Hypothetical - if the husband is responsible - he might purposely stage a 'dramatic scene' at the SUV - so it would be sure to get noticed and then the police would show up at his door where he could feign shock and surprise.

This is true, but what tuppence mentioned above is something to consider. Would he be stupid enough to stage the 'dramatic scene' which was sure to get the vehicle noticed before the time Lianna supposedly left the house? If it can be proven that one credible witness actually saw the vehicle parked there in that condition prior to 6:15, the husband is in deep doo doo.

 

[Casshew]

I. He is going through a grieving process even though we do not know she is dead.

He should not be grieving unless he knows something we don't know.

I can understand him being so emotional he couldn't speak to the media today. It can go either way at this point for my opinion, seriously "what is normal'? when a loved one is missing? If he is vacuuming and making tortellini for the neighbours I'd be raising an eyebrow. :silenced:

 

[Casshew]

If it can be proven that one credible witness actually saw the vehicle parked there in that condition prior to 6:15, the husband is in deep doo doo.

I imagine he will start backpeddling at that point... saying maybe he got the time wrong.

 

[Mabel]

He should not be grieving unless he knows something we don't know.

I can understand him being so emotional he couldn't speak to the media today. It can go either way at this point for my opinion, seriously "what is normal'? when a loved one is missing? If he is vacuuming and making tortellini for the neighbours I'd be raising an eyebrow. :silenced:

Yup, or if he thinks he's tripping over cobblestones in Brussels. I took the "too upset to talk to the media" post as a comparison to Scott Peterson, who claimed he was "too emotional" to talk to them.

 

[Casshew]

Yup, or if he thinks he's tripping over cobblestones in Brussels. I took the "too upset to talk to the media" post as a comparison to Scott Peterson, who claimed he was "too emotional" to talk to them.

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Mabel, this could be a whole new thread, you have to wonder if people 'learn' from these high profile cases what 'not to do' when you murder your wife? or even if you are innocent.. will you be paranoid and not want to cooperate because of what you have heard?

If something ever happend to my hubby - and the police took my PC, :doh: all the stuff I have read, crimes, discussions... I am sure they would think WTF? :slap:

Just want to thank the local Edmonton members for the updates today... does anyone know if there is a prayer vigil in the works?

 

[gagesmom314]

You grieve a loss....not necissarily a death. The loss...his wife is not by his side and is currently "lost". Just my opinion of course.

 

[Luanne]

Sorry if this has been answered, didn't see it. When did her husband know she was missing? Did they call him from work to say she had not arrived? Or did the cops notify him when they found the car?

I'm wondering too, I haven't heard how she was discovered missing....when & how did the husband find out?

Hoping there's some kind of resolution soon....

 

[Casshew]

You grieve a loss....not necissarily a death. The loss...his wife is not by his side and is currently "lost". Just my opinion of course.

I respect your opinion...

mine happens to be it's a little too early to grieve, I hope my family wouldn't give up on my coming home after just a couple of days.

 

[Mabel]

That would be almost as stupid as someone calling their mistress from a vigil for their wife and pretending to be in Paris - nobody would EVER think they could get away with that, right?

Nobody with a lick of sense anyway.

Cass is right, there's been so much talk about how a person is "supposed" to act it could easily cause a person to be paranoid. I still believe the first thing I'd do if one of my loved ones disappeared is insist on taking a polygraph test. Rule me out, then go find the real culprit.

 

[gagesmom314]

I respect your opinion...

mine happens to be it's a little too early to grieve, I hope my family wouldn't give up on my coming home after just a couple of days.

I don't think he has given up hope at all. I am having a hard time coming across the way I am trying to. More like he is grieving that this is even happening. Not that she isnt ever going to come home just that she isnt home right now...does that make sense?

 

[FacTink]

Hmmmm yes Tuppence and Mabel,

IF that car was seen there in the night (but what was the exact wording on that?) then what would his explanation have been? Of course, Scott was going to be golf fishing...it was a morning decision...

You raise an interesting question Tuppence...

So...exactly what was the text of the person that saw it the night before, did they mean "during the dark hours?" Perhaps just before the sun rose, that kinda "night?"

That car got there at some point in time, that is for sure. Now I am just VERY interested, and waiting for the time line!

Now then...since he is angry, and who would blame him if he certainly didn't do it and he had been told to sit tight by the police until they did some investigating AND she was still not found. I would be freaking out, I'd be spewing venom everywhere...because when I hurt, I get angry.

As for grieving, I agree...loss is loss and it causes grieving when it is felt, this guy (if not guilty) has lost his sleeping partner for several nights, his normal life as he knew it, his little girls mom, his possible next son or daughter's mom and so on... The MOMENT my loved one didn't show up and I knew it was out of character, I'd be going berzerk...yup...yup...but then I am inclined to go berzerk!

FT

 

[Casshew]

I don't think he has given up hope at all. I am having a hard time coming across the way I am trying to. More like he is grieving that this is even happening. Not that she isnt ever going to come home just that she isnt home right now...does that make sense?

It's not really making sense to me.. but thats okay :blowkiss:

I think that now is the time to be working to find Liana, to staying strong for his child, helping the investigation in any way possible, to be busy and active.. not to be grieving. Too early to grieve imo