They should be able to get something they can do toxicology on from the torso. Such a HORRIFYING video! OMG!!!! I watched it, and I was actually relieved to see that the victim was already dead when the stabbing with the ice pick started. I hope this isn't too graphic, but from what I observed, the victim appeared drugged from the beginning, but he was definitely alive. At the very beginning you couldn't really tell he was alive because he wasn't really moving. He was obviously alive from 0:52 up until 1:07 because he was moving around on the bed. After that, he is still, and the video is obviously edited at 1:12 so that the view switches to a different angle. I am pretty sure, the victim is dead from the 1:12 point on. I think his throat was already cut, and that part is NOT on the film. I bet it is on another video, out there somewhere.... possibly that footage is what got him the money to get out of Canada, if he is actually gone. At the 1:12 point in the video, the victim's right arm is folded over his chest and the stabbing with the ice pick starts at 1:20. The victim was dead at this point because there is no blood, and he doesn't move at all. The stabbing continues up until 2:38!!! I am sorry if this has been too graphic, but I was actually relieved to see the victim was deceased when the stabbing started. I watched the whole video once all the way through, and went back to watch the part I just described. I don't want to watch the rest of it again. I am pretty much sick right now, and PIZZED off at this that did this!!! I want him caught SO DANG BAD!!!! I haven't seen the kitten video - don't think I can do that tonight. Hugs to all of you WS'ers.... good grief what a rotten world we live in, huh?