Deceased/Not Found Canada - Lyle, 78, & Marie McCann, 77, Alberta, 5 July 2010 #2 *T. Vader guilty*

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Snowglobe said:
How sad. The McCanns were likely dead within hours of leaving home. Their deaths were violent, allegedly involving a gun.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...ehicle-of-missing-couple-crown-says-1.3365953
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From the above article:

The documents allege Vader was using the McCanns' cellphone at approximately 2 p.m. on July 3.
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(The McCanns were last seen at a gas bar in Edmonton at 9:30 that morning.)

RCMP said officers located items inside the SUV "consistent with trauma to the McCanns, including the blood of Marie McCann and Lyle McCann's hat with a bullet hole on it."
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:tears:
 
Snowglobe said:
How sad. The McCanns were likely dead within hours of leaving home. Their deaths were violent, allegedly involving a gun.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...ehicle-of-missing-couple-crown-says-1.3365953
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A bullet hole in Lyle's hat, omg. [emoji20]

This case has always made me so sick. That freak will get his.

As for the Mr.Big undercover sting on Vaders sister. Let's see what that reveals. That makes me sick too.

Where are they, Vader? [emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35]
 
It bothers me so much that they had barely begun their wonderful holiday journey....and then they met evil.
 
Probably torched them like he torched their motor home. Justice is coming.
 
Someone asked a while back if anyone thinks there is a connection to this case:

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/accused-in-triple-homicide-near-edson-still-in-hospital-1.2701726

The McCann case has some things in common, like references to the vehicle found east of Edson. There's the reference to Carrot Creek. And as of today, we now know about alleged weapons in blankets:

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...ehicle-of-missing-couple-crown-says-1.3365953

The RCMP most likely know if any of the weapons tied to the recent triple murder are connected to the McCann case.

It would not have been necessary for Mr. McCann to take his guns on holiday, if the person(s) who murdered him went to his home using the address from his vehicle registration, and unlocked his gun cabinet.

One of the victims in the most recent Edson murders (not the recent murder of the bank manager) worked at a tire shop, and someone needing work done on a vehicle's tire might go to a tire shop employee for help.

Where did the Carrot Creek resident charged with the triple homicide get the cache of weapons allegedly found in his home? Were those weapons legally registered, and if so, to whom?

I think the RCMP know much, much more.
 
A part of the puzzle may be here, if any of these items can be traced back to the McCanns.

http://www.inews880.com/2015/12/15/...iple-homicide-to-make-first-court-appearance/

This story may be relevant to the triple murder case near Edson. One of the victims was from Carrot Creek, in addition to the alleged murderer.

http://www.stalbertgazette.com/Vader-arrested-near-Carrot-Creek-20150304

Who was the "named individual" that Vader was not supposed to contact under the court-ordered conditions?

This is important, with a notable correction to the story about the triple murder in Rosevear:

http://www.edsonleader.com/2015/12/04/murder-suspect-in-serious-condition

"Gary Kowalchuk knew Daniel Miller quite well, both having been involved in the sport of demolition derby.


“He was a friend of mine – he'll be missed,” said Kowalchuk.


Contrary to media reports from city dailies and radio stations, Miller was not an employee of Integra Tire, he was a heavy duty mechanic at Titan Specialized Ltd."

More: http://www.titanshl.ca/

Bear in mind that Vader had worked in the oil patch in the area. Also, it was reported that he had stolen a work truck in the past, and set it one fire.

This may be the kind of work that has been done behind the scenes in the McCann case, but only time and evidence presented in court will tell the story:

http://www.yukon-news.com/news/whitehorse-detective-helps-bring-down-psychopathic-murderer
 
Just spell it all out. What's on your mind, Snowglobe? We all want this sorted out.
 
Mudbogging event at Sok's near Edson in June 2010. A month later, the McCanns' SUV was covered in mud when it was found.

Does anyone else think the RV may have gotten stuck in the mud down a country road, hauled out and driven to another location, where it was burned?

The McCanns were not with the RV. Did the mud on the SUV or RV go for analysis?

Where do mudboggers go, other than Sok's?
 
Oh man, what now???

The double-murder case against Travis Vader is partly based on evidence from a jail-house informant paid by the RCMP, according to new documents filed in an Alberta court.


Vader is accused of killing St. Albert seniors Lyle and Marie McCann, who disappeared in July 2010 while driving to B.C. in their motorhome.


Murder charges against Vader that had been stayed in 2014, were reactivated nine months later. The Crown has one year after charges are stayed to reactivate them.


Lawyers for both sides were in court Tuesday for a hearing that will determine if there has been an abuse of process in the Vader case.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...paid-informant-court-documents-show-1.3400147
 
Fwiw, have followed this in the news, but not this thread - so will duck when I post this.

Ever since the charges were stayed in 2014 against Vader, had a feeling that this is the wrong guy. Am more convinced of it now.

This article helps me - it states that RCMP claim to have forensic evidence that links Vader to the RV, info that is now released from a publication ban. The article then fails to link Vader forensically. The only forensic evidence listed is MM's blood in the RV and LM's hat with a bullet hole. No mention of Vader.

RCMP further claim they have linked Vader to the specific use of the M's cellphone - no they haven't. They only know the cellphone was used in a particular location at a particular time - no Vader link.

Vader's sister seems pretty excited about LE attention and thinks her brother did it, but not seeing she knows anything about anything regarding this case.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...ehicle-of-missing-couple-crown-says-1.3365953

Now in a lawsuit filed by Vader, he claims the RCMP forged a document and tried to say Vader forged it. Messy, messy, messy. How could the RCMP be so stupid as to even let themselves be open to such a claim? The RCMP also screwed around with the Crown on disclosure - why? They know the rules.

Vader's past might not make him the most upstanding citizen, but really feel he had nothing to do with what happened to the McCann's. Jmo.
 
Woodland said:
Fwiw, have followed this in the news, but not this thread - so will duck when I post this.

Ever since the charges were stayed in 2014 against Vader, had a feeling that this is the wrong guy. Am more convinced of it now.

This article helps me - it states that RCMP claim to have forensic evidence that links Vader to the RV, info that is now released from a publication ban. The article then fails to link Vader forensically. The only forensic evidence listed is MM's blood in the RV and LM's hat with a bullet hole. No mention of Vader.

RCMP further claim they have linked Vader to the specific use of the M's cellphone - no they haven't. They only know the cellphone was used in a particular location at a particular time - no Vader link.

Vader's sister seems pretty excited about LE attention and thinks her brother did it, but not seeing she knows anything about anything regarding this case.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...ehicle-of-missing-couple-crown-says-1.3365953

Now in a lawsuit filed by Vader, he claims the RCMP forged a document and tried to say Vader forged it. Messy, messy, messy. How could the RCMP be so stupid as to even let themselves be open to such a claim? The RCMP also screwed around with the Crown on disclosure - why? They know the rules.

Vader's past might not make him the most upstanding citizen, but really feel he had nothing to do with what happened to the McCann's. Jmo.
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I would imagine it is not just the cell phone, but the cell phone records, that tie to Vader (i.e. did he call his sister, etc?).

As for linking Vader to the RV, I believe the forensic evidence found in the McCann's SUV is how he is tied to their RV (i.e. did they find Vader's DNA or fingerprints inexplicably in the SUV?).

from the cbc article:

On July 16, the couple's Hyundai SUV was discovered 24 kilometres east of Edson.

The Crown's written summary states: "Forensic evidence ties this SUV to Vader. Various items of evidence connect the motorhome scene to the SUV scene."
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If the case against Vader is so forensically airtight, can't imagine what went wrong to stop the March 2014 trial, or why the RCMP has messed around with disclosure (with the Crown no less) and a document that is allegedly forged by them. Makes no sense imo.
 
There are no verified insiders in this case. One poster's opinion regarding TB was stated as fact without any MSM/official links to substantiate their statement; therefore that post and posts responding to it have been removed.

IF you can find something (MSM or official documentation) to substantiate that the two TBs are one and the same, please provide that information via PM to a Mod or Admin and we'll have a look at it to ensure they are the same person. If they are, then we're good to go. Otherwise we don't want to be discussing an innocent person who is unrelated to this case.

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