GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #6

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Summersolstice said:
So, how do we explain that Russ Sovka got rid of his eyeglasses when he became Russ Williams and took up being a pilot? Non-Lasik surgery? Contact lenses?
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I can tell you with certainty, that you need to have what's called a "V1" category to become a pilot in the military - uncorrected vision. Once you're in and trained, you can wear glasses (much like a police officer).

It's true - he is wearing glasses in the younger years, so I don't know the circumstances, but it's a good point. Maybe he was wearing them to be cool? lol

Military folks don't have an OHIP (or Health Card). At least, they're not supposed to. All of our medical needs and prescriptions are taken care of by our base hospital. Including dental. We have our own doctors, clinics, dentists, Xrays, pharmacists, etc. For specialist appts, surgeries, etc, we are referred downtown and the report is sent to be maintained in our medical files on base. After 4:00 and on weekends, we can go to the emergency room, and a report is sent to our base hospital for follow up.

Usually, if you are having a depressive episode, you're put on what's called a "temporary category". You're not promotable during this time nor can you attend any career courses.

I have no idea what RW's medical condition is or was...but I can assure you that you have to be in tip top shape with no medical limitations to be current aircrew and be promoted (which I believe he was when he was posted to the posn of W Comd). That's all I can tell you :)
 
SomeGirlOnTheNet said:
I can tell you with certainty, that you need to have what's called a "V1" category to become a pilot in the military - uncorrected vision. Once you're in and trained, you can wear glasses (much like a police officer).

It's true - he is wearing glasses in the younger years, so I don't know the circumstances, but it's a good point. Maybe he was wearing them to be cool? lol

Military folks don't have an OHIP (or Health Card). At least, they're not supposed to. All of our medical needs and prescriptions are taken care of by our base hospital. Including dental. We have our own doctors, clinics, dentists, Xrays, pharmacists, etc. For specialist appts, surgeries, etc, we are referred downtown and the report is sent to be maintained in our medical files on base. After 4:00 and on weekends, we can go to the emergency room, and a report is sent to our base hospital for follow up.

Usually, if you are having a depressive episode, you're put on what's called a "temporary category". You're not promotable during this time nor can you attend any career courses.

I have no idea what RW's medical condition is or was...but I can assure you that you have to be in tip top shape with no medical limitations to be current aircrew and be promoted (which I believe he was when he was posted to the posn of W Comd). That's all I can tell you :)
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Yes, you are exactly right. I worked at 17 Wing Military Clinic in Winnipeg, and when I filled the Medical Boards Clerk position, I met many pilots, but I don't recall meeting RW.

As you know, all military members have to undergo medical examinations throughout their career and the medical boards clerk is the person who schedules their examinations. Generally speaking, everyone but pilots undergo a complete physical examination every 3-5 years whereas pilots have to undergo testing every year or two. Some of the tests the pilots require are performed every year while other exams are only required every 2nd year.

An outpatient clinic for military members suffering from PTSD was opened at a medical centre nearly 8 years ago in Winnipeg which is located near the military base but is not not operated by the military.
 
SomeGirlOnTheNet said:
I can tell you with certainty, that you need to have what's called a "V1" category to become a pilot in the military - uncorrected vision. Once you're in and trained, you can wear glasses (much like a police officer).

It's true - he is wearing glasses in the younger years, so I don't know the circumstances, but it's a good point. Maybe he was wearing them to be cool? lol

Military folks don't have an OHIP (or Health Card). At least, they're not supposed to. All of our medical needs and prescriptions are taken care of by our base hospital. Including dental. We have our own doctors, clinics, dentists, Xrays, pharmacists, etc. For specialist appts, surgeries, etc, we are referred downtown and the report is sent to be maintained in our medical files on base. After 4:00 and on weekends, we can go to the emergency room, and a report is sent to our base hospital for follow up.

Usually, if you are having a depressive episode, you're put on what's called a "temporary category". You're not promotable during this time nor can you attend any career courses.

I have no idea what RW's medical condition is or was...but I can assure you that you have to be in tip top shape with no medical limitations to be current aircrew and be promoted (which I believe he was when he was posted to the posn of W Comd). That's all I can tell you :)
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Glasses were not cool back when RW was wearing them, especially glasses like his.

Military members who travel, say to marathons like that former friend of RW's, can get medications. I'm sure that members of the military could also obtain medications from non-military sources when they're travelling on holidays, even holidays out of the country. I'm pretty sure that military members whose pets are gravely ill could also obtain medications for those pets. Then there are certain doctors who specialize in treating sports injuries....

Even legitimately prescribed meds have off-label uses.

Things like Temazepam, apparently, can be easily bought on the street for uses other than those listed by their manufacturers. I understand that some people buy these drugs to enhance the effects of Oxy.

Now back to the link I posted just a while back about antidepressants being cleared for use by pilots. They were intially approved only for commercial pilots in Canada. Perhaps the thinking was that copilots would be an extra safety check? The article seemed to indicate that by not licensing such meds, pilots would hide the use of these drugs. I think that would be especially true in cases where those pilots knew they would be held back in their careers.

I'm also thinking of Olympic athletes who try to cheat by doping. Some of them seem to know exactly when to cut off the drugs in order to fool the tests. Now that random testing occurs, those methods are not as reliable.
 
SS, nothing would surprise me where RW is concerned now. Anything is possible with him I think.
 
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Looking back, the neighbors can’t help but remember some of the stress Williams was under in 2007, right before the break-ins started. Curio, his beloved cat of 18 years, was sick and had to be euthanized. Williams and Harriman were so upset that they asked the vet to administer the needle inside their Ottawa home so she could die in a familiar setting. “He had tears in his eyes telling us about the death of that cat,” Ron recalls.
Williams was also suffering from a sudden bout of chronic arthritis. He was popping prescription pills, but the constant pain was so fierce at times that he worried he might have to retire from the military. “We would play cards here, and he could not sit for more than half an hour,” Ron says. “He would get up and stand behind the chair, holding the chair.” (Williams did the same thing during his videotaped confession to police, leaning against a wall for long periods of time.)..." Snip>

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/29/where-it-all-began/

er....uhm... do you folks know anybody that has chronic arthritis who is an avid jogger?

just askin'

I'm wondering, too, if he couldn't sit still for more than 30 minutes, how did he manage to pilot those planes on those long flights - like to Camp Mirage, Afghanistan, England, up to the far North, etc..?
 
It would have been very helpful if JF had looked at the names on those eight bottles of pills that were sitting on RW's counter. Here's what's bothering me: we have heard about the so-called "fetish" items that RW stole during his B&Es. Other than Larry Jones himself revealing that items had been taken from his garage, including a coat, lighter and gloves, LE has not revealed what else, if anything, was taken from the homes of his victims. I have not even seen a statement from LE confirming the items stolen from Mr. Jones, although I have no reason to doubt him.

Did RW also steal pills from bottles, or bottles of pills? Was he tracking people who used psychiatric services at the hospital in Belleville, knowing those people would likely have medications that would be useful to him? Did he chose his victims knowing that someone in their household might be using pain medications?

You see, two women disappeared, one from the Tweed/Belleville area and one from Peterborough, in late 2009 and the other in January 2010. One of them had told a friend she was heading to the hospital in Belleville to get some medications. Both were known to have mental health diagnoses.

I do believe it would be reasonable for the base commander of CFB Trenton to visit injured troops who had returned from Afghanistan, and who were hospitalized in the Belleville hospital. The base commander might also be expected to attend community events, like a fundraiser for that hospital. We know that he was photographed with Mayor John Williams at a black tie fundraiser for Trenton Memorial Hospital on October 24, 2009.

I am also thinking of one young soldier who worked at CFB Trenton, who had psychiatric issues and committed suicide. His story was told by the Belleville Intelligencer earlier this year. He was taunted by his coworkers at the base, his mother told the newspaper. It's not the first time stories like this have come to the attention of Canadians via the news media. It seems that soldiers with mental health issues are stigmatized, no less and possibly more so than in society in general. They have a "soldier" image to maintain. Keeping their issues hidden means no treatment, but at what price? Romeo Dallaire took his story public.

I'm also bothered by RW taking photos of one victim's health insurance documents during a B&E and sexual assault. Why?
 
Summersolstice said:
I'm also bothered by RW taking photos of one victim's health insurance documents during a B&E and sexual assault. Why?
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That is very weird for sure. I wonder why as well. I'd forgotten about that.

I wonder if MEH had noticed a difference in his behaviour? I'd think she'd know him better than anyone (oh the irony of THAT statement, I know)
 
SomeGirlOnTheNet said:
That is very weird for sure. I wonder why as well. I'd forgotten about that.

I wonder if MEH had noticed a difference in his behaviour? I'd think she'd know him better than anyone (oh the irony of THAT statement, I know)
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Hey, nice photo. I'm pretty sure that's a get-up that would have appealed to someone with certain tastes, LOL!
 
Summersolstice said:
It would have been very helpful if JF had looked at the names on those eight bottles of pills that were sitting on RW's counter. Here's what's bothering me: we have heard about the so-called "fetish" items that RW stole during his B&Es. Other than Larry Jones himself revealing that items had been taken from his garage, including a coat, lighter and gloves, LE has not revealed what else, if anything, was taken from the homes of his victims. I have not even seen a statement from LE confirming the items stolen from Mr. Jones, although I have no reason to doubt him.

Did RW also steal pills from bottles, or bottles of pills? Was he tracking people who used psychiatric services at the hospital in Belleville, knowing those people would likely have medications that would be useful to him? Did he chose his victims knowing that someone in their household might be using pain medications?

You see, two women disappeared, one from the Tweed/Belleville area and one from Peterborough, in late 2009 and the other in January 2010. One of them had told a friend she was heading to the hospital in Belleville to get some medications. Both were known to have mental health diagnoses.

I do believe it would be reasonable for the base commander of CFB Trenton to visit injured troops who had returned from Afghanistan, and who were hospitalized in the Belleville hospital. The base commander might also be expected to attend community events, like a fundraiser for that hospital. We know that he was photographed with Mayor John Williams at a black tie fundraiser for Trenton Memorial Hospital on October 24, 2009.

I am also thinking of one young soldier who worked at CFB Trenton, who had psychiatric issues and committed suicide. His story was told by the Belleville Intelligencer earlier this year. He was taunted by his coworkers at the base, his mother told the newspaper. It's not the first time stories like this have come to the attention of Canadians via the news media. It seems that soldiers with mental health issues are stigmatized, no less and possibly more so than in society in general. They have a "soldier" image to maintain. Keeping their issues hidden means no treatment, but at what price? Romeo Dallaire took his story public.

I'm also bothered by RW taking photos of one victim's health insurance documents during a B&E and sexual assault. Why?
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Thanks much, summer. I have so many thoughts on this subject that I'm having trouble pulling them together.

About the victim's health insurance card: RW is trained in electronic warfare and cryptology. He is a computer manipulator deluxe. He went into his victims' computers - not just to leave smirking, threatening messages to terrorize them but probably to get passwords. Just think what he could do with those.

I have ordered refills of my arthritis medication via the internet, paid for by my health insurance coverage except for my co-pay. A hacker such as RW could use my passwords to do the same and at the same time have the meds mailed to a new address (PO box under assumed name?).

RW was too cunning to go to the base medical facilities and have his drug use put on his medical record. That would require the cooperation of an unethical flight surgeon to mark his records as fit to fly.

RW was not into abiding by the laws of civil conduct, but into abusing them without getting caught. He really does have an enormous superiority complex, huh? "Just can't believe this is happening..."

I'd like your help, folks. Please do a little exercise: Without looking again at the 'glamour poses', do you recall any of the outward signs of arthritis? Like knobby joints, mis-shapen fingers (the classic outward sweep), unusual swelling....

Now, look again and try to see some of those signs.

Thanks!

Frankly, I think RW kept reminding others of his "chronic arthritis pain" to cover for his pill popping - even though it didn't fit with his hard, daily jogging . INOW, he's a faker.

JMO

Where am I going with all this? Well, think of the penalty for "driving under the influence" of alcohol or drugs. Well, I'd think the penalty for piloting an aircraft under the influence of same would carry a very heavy penalty, and may be a felony offense. [IMO, it certainly should carry a loss of pilot's licensing if using forbidden drugs when transporting a Globemaster full of troops!!]

Would the discovery of such an actionable offense possibly be grounds for depriving him of his pension? [somehow I don't think RW's drug abuse is showing up on those records the military authorities say they have thoroughly examined.]
 
Salem said:
I have thought about this everytime I opened a new thread on this case. Let's vote on it. If you want the title Col. removed - thank this post. If you think it is important that we remember even those we perceive to be 'above' suspicion can commit horrible crimes - don't thank the post.

Does that sound like a plan?

I'll count our steady posters to see how many thanks we have to get to change the title.

Salem

ETA: It looks like we have about 15 reg. posters on just this thread. If we get 8 thanks, I'll take Col out of the title.
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Hi Guys - sorry to take so long with this. I will change the title.

Also, anytime you are looking for me, please feel free to send me a pm or a visitor message! I usually get those several times a day :)

Salem
 
A thought just occurred to me, from this article:

http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/newstoday/article/1287680

"The Canadian Forces Provost Marshal report is not necessarily an accurate representation of crime in the Canadian military, said a spokeswoman for the branch, which acts as the investigative arm of the military police.

"It's any case brought to the military police," said Maj. Paule Poulin. "So it could involve members, ex-members or civilians.""

As base commander, what would RW's role have been in these investigations, and the administration of justice? Some of the victims came from military families. Seems rife for conflict of interest, in cases where the commander is the one committing crimes.

What about those individuals who may have met the wrong end of justice under RW's command? When the commander is a convicted criminal, those people deserve a review and some explanations.

What about any cases that came before him when he was in command at Camp Mirage?
 
Military police/NIS investigations are done as their own entity.

The WComd would be informed of an investigation and that is it. NIS comes down from Ottawa so there is no incestuous dealings in an investigation. He would be kept in the loop, but would have no string pulling in it.

I remember when one of our former WComds at 8 Wing (Col Doug Wilson - you could probably google his case) was busted after having the whistle blown on him by one of his first officers for not adhering to the "12 hour bottle to throttle" rule. He certainly had no say during that investigation.
 
SomeGirlOnTheNet said:
Military police/NIS investigations are done as their own entity.

The WComd would be informed of an investigation and that is it. NIS comes down from Ottawa so there is no incestuous dealings in an investigation. He would be kept in the loop, but would have no string pulling in it.

I remember when one of our former WComds at 8 Wing (Col Doug Wilson - you could probably google his case) was busted after having the whistle blown on him by one of his first officers for not adhering to the "12 hour bottle to throttle" rule. He certainly had no say during that investigation.
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Thank you. It concerned me that during the court proceedings prior to sentencing, it became known that RW had instructed military personnel that they did not have to cooperate with civilian LE investigations into at least one of the cases where he was the perp. Official powers and "influence" are two different things.

It is my understanding that the base commander serves to mete out justice, as a kind of judge/jury in some cases involving transgressions by military personnel.

ETA: Obstruction of justice is an offence in the military as seen here:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...n-general-charged-with-obstruction-of-justice
 
As for the memorandum that was supposedly sent out by RW about not talking to LE, that is a not a memo that I ever saw or was spoken about by our CO.

A basewide memorandum would have either:

- been posted on our 8 Wing Splash page (it's a default home page for us)
- been sent to us by email via the WExec staff or the W Comd himself (our now W Comd, Col Cochrane does this often)
- or, it would have been passed down to the unit CO's for dissemination during a meeting or briefing with all of the staff.

I didn't hear of any such memo, and being a supervisor, I have people that I have to supervise/disseminate info to. I don't know where the info came up that there was this memo....I believe RW when he says he said no such thing.
 
Not sure if this article has already been posted,but some interesting points are made.


Dietz, a past president of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, says Williams may be different in having confessed completely, but that, generally, "offenders confess to only a portion of what they've actually done. Particularly for sexual serial killers, it's very common for them to hold back a favourite," he says, even when they give very detailed, persuasive confessions of the rest.


Someone as methodical as Williams "has probably been quite exhaustive and complete, unless there were times of tremendous emotional upheaval or substance abuse that led to his abandoning his usual obsessive, compulsive style."



Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/monster+healed/3713751/story.html#ixzz14B3JJ8KJ
 
dotr said:
Not sure if this article has already been posted,but some interesting points are made.


Dietz, a past president of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, says Williams may be different in having confessed completely, but that, generally, "offenders confess to only a portion of what they've actually done. Particularly for sexual serial killers, it's very common for them to hold back a favourite," he says, even when they give very detailed, persuasive confessions of the rest.


Someone as methodical as Williams "has probably been quite exhaustive and complete, unless there were times of tremendous emotional upheaval or substance abuse that led to his abandoning his usual obsessive, compulsive style."

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/monster+healed/3713751/story.html#ixzz14B3JJ8KJ
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Perhaps Dr. Berlin needs a reminder that the laws in Canada were changed to reflect the fact that sexual assault is "assault" first and foremost. Our lawmakers view a sadistic sexual assault as primarily about the "sadistic" and "assault", with the "sexual" as the means of inflicting the former. It's sex as a weapon, if you will.

The author of a number of well-known books about psychopathy is one Dr. Robert Hare, a retired professor emeritus from UBC. Dr. Hare is considered a world-leading expert in this field. He developed the PCL-R, or Hare Psychopathy Checklist, as it is known, after spending many years working with the "criminally insane" in Penetanguishene.

I am inclined to believe Dr. Hare, who doesn't comment on cases like this, as a matter of his own personal policy. The man has 35+ years of research in psychopathy under his belt.

So IMO, it's a waste of time and taxpayers' money to attempt to rehabilitate someone like RW. However, if studying RW will allow LE to better their understanding of how to catch the next one like him, by all means, study him. I'm sure he'll enjoy the game. Just don't let him out. Not everyone can be fixed, and sometimes jail is jail for the the protection of society, rather than the "correction" of criminals.
 
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