Canada - Terry, 27, & Hailey Blanchette, 2, Blairmore, AB, 14 Sept 2015 #2

[giagreen]

I don't understand why he would of done this. At the very least why murder an innocent child as well. If Hailey was alive when he took her then its even more crazy to think he had the time to think about it and still do it.

I'm just sitting back and patiently waiting for answers I know will eventually come. I don't have a whole lot to say but this is one of those horrible crimes that will stick with you for a while I had to say something.

That poor mother. Wow....just wow. I wouldnt wish what she is going threw on my worst enemy. I think she is shocked and it hasn't even really sank in yet. It hasn't even been a week. I will keep her in my prays.

I really wanna know what this dudes problem was. Possibly a pedophile I'm thinking the more I read. Its natural to question if mom was some how the reasoning because one would assume she is in living hell here on earth so maybe that was his intentions. Who knows. He is obviously nuts. Ill never understand his thinking. Its just sad because awsome dads seem to be a dieing breed and here one got murdered.

sad for this family. This is a huge loss.

 

[swedie]

It was stated that his aunt lived there. There appears to be at least 2 small houses on the property.

I don't know if reports have confirmed the aunt lives on the property, just that the property is owned by Derek's aunt. At 52 seconds into this video... Sometimes there is information in the videos that isn't in the write up that goes along with the video. MOO.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/killing-us-inside-saretzky-family-reacts-to-murders-1.2568549

 

[Kittymama]

I wish I knew more about the whole social structure of this town.

What do you mean?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Hi All,
Long-time reader, first time contributor and now official WebSleuths member. I’ve been following this case since it began and I’ve read every single post on here (at least I think I have). I have also done my own “sleuthing” and checked out numerous facebook pages, other forums and read dozens of news articles/videos/comments. And since this is my first post it’s a little long winded (actually a lot long-winded...sorry), so I’ve tried to organize it somewhat, and if you choose to read it in its entirety, thank you..

Respectfully snipped by me.

Welcome! Excellent, informative post. Interesting theories and insights.

 

[Orangeboy]

I think when looking at cases like this it is important to look for the most simple explanation. I'm not sure I believe (or want to believe) the pedophile or revenge killing scenarios.

One thing we know for sure is that DS liked to break in to homes. In fact there are at least 3? documented cases in the past few months. There may be more... if he got away with a few. At any rate, knowing that , could this just be a break and enter gone horribly wrong?

- DS may have been targeting the TB household for a break-in and robbery (not a murder) for a while.
-Perhaps DS knew that TB routinely travelled to Edmonton on Sunday and was under the assumption that TB and HDB were not home
-When he found out that they were home he panicked-- Stabbed TB, and grabbed a screaming HDB, (who if she fought and bit him may have had his DNA & blood on her) threw her in the van and took off in a panic, panicked some more, and ended up killing her because he didn't know what else to do and she was unmanagable.
-He attempts to hide her body on a property he knows.
- his intent wasn't ever to kill the child or TB but because he DID kidnap the child it carries the first degree murder charge.

This may have been nothing more than a botched robbery gone tragically wrong.

In Canada a death that occurs while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping and forcible confinement is considered first degree.

If there is any evidence in the house that TB was confined against his will, that would also carry a first degree murder charge.

Actually I think it would still be first degree even without confinement because it was a murder that took place while committing a kidnapping.

My point: This could be nothing more than a robbery gone very bad. Becasue the perp took HDB, it becomes a kidnapping and both deaths automatically carry a first degree murder charge.

This is a scenario using the most simple of motives and it seems to match up with what little facts of the case that the public is privy to.

 

[swedie]

THANK YOU! I agree that there is too much focus on the pick up and drop off. Grandpa wasn't involved with the phone conversation, so his comment isn't really valuable. Terry and Cheyenne seemed to have a pretty relaxed relationship and it sounds like their custody was also relaxed, so exact times and dates maybe weren't such a huge deal with them.

See, now that's where I suspect lies a possible clue. CD said, "I was making arrangements to pick Hailey up". Who was she making those arrangements with? Could she have been asking friends in Blairemore to help her? From what I have gathered, her interview was done in Blairmore. The two females who were with her during the interview; are they friends or relatives and what city/town are they from? Did they come from Edmonton to be with her or are they friends/relatives who live in the Blairmore area? I'm not asking for their names or personal info about them other then, if anyone knows... friends or relatives, and where are they from. MOO.

Oh also if anyone knows, does CD have her own vehicle? TIA

 

[swedie]

I think when looking at cases like this it is important to look for the most simple explanation. I'm not sure I believe (or want to believe) the pedophile or revenge killing scenarios.

One thing we know for sure is that DS liked to break in to homes. In fact there are at least 3? documented cases in the past few months. There may be more... if he got away with a few. At any rate, knowing that , could this just be a break and enter gone horribly wrong?

- DS may have been targeting the TB household for a break-in and robbery (not a murder) for a while.
-Perhaps DS knew that TB routinely travelled to Edmonton on Sunday and was under the assumption that TB and HDB were not home
-When he found out that they were home he panicked-- Stabbed TB, and grabbed a screaming HDB, (who if she fought and bit him may have had his DNA & blood on her) threw her in the van and took off in a panic, panicked some more, and ended up killing her because he didn't know what else to do and she was unmanagable.
-He attempts to hide her body on a property he knows.
- his intent wasn't ever to kill the child or TB but because he DID kidnap the child it carries the first degree murder charge.

This may have been nothing more than a botched robbery gone tragically wrong.

In Canada a death that occurs while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping and forcible confinement is considered first degree.

If there is any evidence in the house that TB was confined against his will, that would also carry a first degree murder charge.

Actually I think it would still be first degree even without confinement because it was a murder that took place while committing a kidnapping.

My point: This could be nothing more than a robbery gone very bad. Becasue the perp took HDB, it becomes a kidnapping and both deaths automatically carry a first degree murder charge.

This is a scenario using the most simple of motives and it seems to match up with what little facts of the case that the public is privy to.

LE have charged DS with first degree in both deaths so that pretty much tells us that Terry's murder was premeditated and intentional/deliberate. MOO.

 

[swedie]

Where was that stated in the media?

I have only seen a statement that 'the property belongs to a relative'. I believe MM also quote LE as stating it's an acreage. My assumption, because of the long gravel road in some of the photo/video, is that it's a summer recreational property, that's probably enjoyed by the extended family for, at least, long weekends. It wouldn't be practical for someone to live up there in winter, too much snow.

It's possible it was basically closed down for the winter after Labour Day with nobody planning to use it for a while.

Ariel view of the property owned by Derek's aunt, where Hailey's body was found.

 

[Clouddippingdown]

A very odd thing to say. The sister IMO knew exactly who was in custody at that point in time, its a small town after all. So who would "honestly love" Hailey? Certainly she wasn't speaking to DS as he was already in custody. Who did DS know that would "Honestly love" Hailey? :thinking:

Terry's sister would honestly love Hailey.... Just throwing it out there and it's only my opinion but something's up in Catsville.

 

[Orangeboy]

LE have charged DS with first degree in both deaths so that pretty much tells us that Terry's murder was premeditated and intentional/deliberate. MOO.

The 2 first degree murder charges tell us that it was EITHER pre-meditated OR conducted in conjunction with a Kidnapping OR confinement OR Harassment OR all of these. I was supplying a scenario where a first degree murder charge could be laid that may not show pre-meditation/.... and it does stand up legally. I've supplied quotes and links to the Canadian criminal code below. MOO. Happy Sleuthing!

Pre-meditation is not a necessary to prove in this case because the murders happened in conjunction with a kidnapping.

Canadain Criminal Code:

(5) Irrespective of whether a murder is planned and deliberate on the part of any person, murder is first degree murder in respect of a person when the death is caused by that person while committing or attempting to commit an offence under one of the following sections:

(e) section 279 (kidnapping and forcible confinement); or

Criminal harassment

(6) Irrespective of whether a murder is planned and deliberate on the part of any person, murder is first degree murder when the death is caused by that person while committing or attempting to commit an offence under section 264 and the person committing that offence intended to cause the person murdered to fear for the safety of the person murdered or the safety of anyone known to the person murdered.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-231.html

 

[swedie]

I think Leeman68 was hoping for more than just a link...the link just gets you to the page and then a lot of scrolling and reading needed. A date was included, yesterday the 17th, Thursday...but maybe state a time the comment(s) was or were made and a slight description of what article or posting the comments were made....Thx.

If it's an consolation or help, I too saw the response from an Edmonton reporter stating that the reporters did not invite CD or approach her asking her to speak to them, CD sought them out, she went to where they were gathered. IIRC it was a text that someone had taken a screen shot of. I've been looking for it also. Will post if I find it. MOO.

 

[Rayemonde]

I think Leeman68 was hoping for more than just a link...the link just gets you to the page and then a lot of scrolling and reading needed. A date was included, yesterday the 17th, Thursday...but maybe state a time the comment(s) was or were made and a slight description of what article or posting the comments were made....Thx.

We were wondering if the media hounded her into giving an interview, or if she wanted to give an interview. IMO, she wanted to give the interview and sought out the media.

There is an interesting comment on the Global Edmonton page, posted to the page (under "Visitor Posts") by JB on sept 17th. The Global Edmonton reply to him.

Sorry to be so vague, i'm just trying to follow the TOS.

 

[blacksheep]

We were wondering if the media hounded her into giving an interview, or if she wanted to give an interview. IMO, she wanted to give the interview and sought out the media.

There is an interesting comment on the Global Edmonton page, posted to the page (under "Visitor Posts") by JB on sept 17th. The Global Edmonton reply to him.

Sorry to be so vague, i'm just trying to follow the TOS.

I understand the curiosity but this situation is something very few people can empathize with. It is an anomaly. Right and wrong decisions are clouded by pressure from so many different sources with so much influence. It just isn't fair to focus so much attention on how a grieving mother is acting under such a magnifying glass. I happened to look at her FB and it has comments from strangers saying the worst things possible. They have created pics comparing her to mothers who have murdered their children and posted them on HER FB. I can't imagine having to deal with that level of BS on top of everything else that has happened to her family this week.

It's normal to want to defend yourself if being accused of a heinous crime of someone you loved dearly.

 

[Rayemonde]

I understand the curiosity but this situation is something very few people can empathize with. It is an anomaly. Right and wrong decisions are clouded by pressure from so many different sources with so much influence. It just isn't fair to focus so much attention on how a grieving mother is acting under such a magnifying glass. I happened to look at her FB and it has comments from strangers saying the worst things possible. They have created pics comparing her to mothers who have murdered their children and posted them on HER FB. I can't imagine having to deal with that level of BS on top of everything else that has happened to her family this week.

It's normal to want to defend yourself if being accused of a heinous crime of someone you loved dearly.

I saw some of what was posted on the mother's facebook account, and I was horrified. That's not discussing the case or having an opinion, it's criminal harassment IMO. People are completely out of order. Following some of what's been happened on facebook has certainly made me appreciate Websleuths and their strict rules more.

I think it's normal whenever a crime occurs to look at the behaviour of those involved in the case, and I'm sure police will be doing that, but nobody is ever going to be charged with a crime just because they didn't *seem* upset enough to the police, or the police *felt* that they were being dishonest. Sure it can be used in court with all of the other evidence to try and paint a picture of what happened, but it's not strong evidence of anything on its own because there are just too many innocent possibilities as to why the person acted that way.

 

[MamaMoonshine]

Isn't it possible that DS was obsessed with the mother "three years ago".. And quite possibly he has spent the last 3 years stewing over that. And in his delusions thought he would be her new dad after TB was out of the picture. But when HB was obviously upset he killed her?

All in all its a horrific case. Truly heartbreaking. And it's damned if you do damned if you don't with the media and how mothers act, if they wear make up etccccc.

 

[jmcgladr]

Here is my theory, based on what we know so far and my own life experiences. CD and DS were "just good friends" around 3 years ago - CD truly believed that was all they were, and DS thought it was something more or wanted it to be more. CD, 3 or so years ago, was moving on with her life, pregnant with Hailey, negotiating a relationship with TB, moving to Edmonton (seemed like she may have lived in Blairmore with TB for a time), finding a job, the single mother day to day life challenges. DS went by the wayside and she probably barely thought any more about him. DS, crushed that he couldn't have the relationship with CD that he wanted and fuelled by mental illness, became angry and possibly obsessive at what he couldn't have and the man and child who he saw as taking CD away from him. He fumed about this silently for years, and living in the same small town as TB and Hailey, was reminded of them often. Eventually, he snapped, killing the objects of his anger. I believe it was premeditated for a long time. I (like many women) have had the experience of thinking I was "just friends" with a guy and having the guy think/desire that things are quite different. My best friend is going through a similar thing right now. The unaddressed issues can cause a lot of anger which, in my case, took me completely by surprise. Years later, the guy was still angry about it and refused to talk to me when our paths crossed. Fortunately, for me and my friend, the guys were/are not sick in the head the same way DS has been described as being. Anyway, JMO about this tragic situation.

 

[audge86]

"The RCMP believe Derek Saretzky planned the murders of Hailey and her father. Police said Saretzky was an*acquaintance of Blanchette."

http://globalnews.ca/news/2224110/s...nbar-blanchettes-mother-cheyenne-breaks-down/

Unless this is wrong info, it doesn't sound like a robbery gone wrong

This is awful. I've been following this case because i live like 1.5 hours away and have a 2 year old daughter. I'm so thankful to the RSMC for quickly apprehended this monster.

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[dyannaON]

I don't understand how anyone can plan to murder a baby. I'm so sad for our society.


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[peony27]

"The RCMP believe Derek Saretzky planned the murders of Hailey and her father. Police said Saretzky was an*acquaintance of Blanchette."

http://globalnews.ca/news/2224110/s...nbar-blanchettes-mother-cheyenne-breaks-down/

Unless this is wrong info, it doesn't sound like a robbery gone wrong

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I missed this , that makes it sound to me more like it was hailey that was targeted .

 

[Kingston]

A simple paternity test may answer all remaining questions in this case. The alleged animosity between father and perp versus the friendship between the mother and perp doesn't match well with the friendly terms between mother and father - traditionally, mutual friends only divide after hostile separations, so why the animosity? [Note: however, the money-fan photos open the possibility of drug-dealing rivalry, with one trumping the other]. Given that the friendship vanishes in the proximity of childbirth, and the father publicly distances himself from a bad crowd - and cleans up his own life - the father's statement on Facebook seems telling:

"I'm not the bad guy for not wanting my child around drugaddicted pedo files".

The perp was troubled and allegedly hung a bad crowd. Rumors circulate of a past romance between mother and perp. If there's any truth to these rumors, it might explain everything. That is, the perp may be the daughter's true father; drug addicted and unwittingly thought a pedo by the victim for loving his own daughter. Looking at the Facebook photos, an unrequited, [drug] demented fatherhood might be cause for unbridled jealousy. Even if he is not the real father, he may have reason to think so.