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Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
Saretzky trial resuming. Jury to see a video of Saretzky being asked about Hanne Meketech. This occurred 6 months after his initial arrest.
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
Jury back. Video between McCauley and Derek, recorded on March 2, 2016, in Calgary Remand now being shown to court.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he heard #Saretzky tried to kill himself while in custody
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
McCauley telling #Saretzky he doesn't have to be there and can leave anytime. "When I heard you tried to take your life I was upset."
Quinn Campbell‏Verified account @quinnLcampbell 2h2 hours ago
McCauley heard saying to Derek #saretzky that Derek had refused to talk to McCauley for about 6 months (he was in the remand centre)
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
McCauley notes Derek has lost weight. Accused had gone on hunger strike. #Saretzky
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
McCauley "I don't want to see anything bad happen to you. You have your whole life ahead of you." He heard #Saretzky hadn't been eating.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"I'm upset about my family... I miss them," #Saretzky tells McCauley when asked why he went on a hunger strike
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells #Saretzky his parents love him despite his mistakes.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
Derek is quiet and mumbles through a lot of his answers. Hard to hear at times. #Saretzky
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says for awhile he was refusing visits from his family. "I wasn't ready to see them," he tells McCauley.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley offers #Saretzky outside food. Says prison food must be pretty bland. Saretzky declines
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky asked if he's angry at McCauley. Says he's not.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
The two are talking about #Saretzky getting himself healthy again. Lots of mumbles from the accused
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
"I wasn't happy with the situation and I wasn't enjoying where I was," #Saretzky says about his attempted suicide.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
"I didn't realize the difference between the facilities here and in Lethbridge." #Saretzky says he liked Lethbridge jail better.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he wants to help #Saretzky feel better. Offers to bring him books, other things to help pass the time.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he would like to see one of his brothers. He says he doesn't want to open up to his parents because of "guilt."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"I've thought about you pretty much everyday since we talked (in Sept)," McCauley says #Saretzky
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he tried to see #Saretzky before but he couldn't because he was doing assessments & then on a hunger strike.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he might visit #Saretzky from time to time
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
"Are you open to me visiting from time to time?" McCauley asks. "Yeah," Derek says.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
"I almost feel like a big brother to you" McCauley tells #Saretzky. Earlier he told court he uses tactics to gain trust and obtain info.
Quinn Campbell‏Verified account @quinnLcampbell 2h2 hours ago
McCauley asking #Saretzky how he is doing and how he is holding up. #saretzky
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he believes #Saretzky went through a messed up time. "I don’t think you’re a bad person set out to to those things."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"I think you went through a bit of a messed up time," McCauley adds, saying he doesn't think #Saretzky is a bad person
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
McCauley encouraging Derek to read while in prison, rather than sitting with his own thoughts.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley offering beverages/snacks - milkshake, smoothie, chocolate bar
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley again offers to get #Saretzky some outside food. Says he wants a Pepsi, but changes his mind thinking it'll be too much trouble.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
After agreeing to let McCauley get him a Pepsi, #Saretzky changes his mind, "I don't think it's necessary."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"My family, my grandparents," #Saretzky says when asked what's on his mind
Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
Saretzky says he's been thinking about his family - his grandparents. Says he might like to see them.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says a number of his family members had visited him at the Calgary remand centre.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells #Saretzky he'll try to get his grandparents to visit him in jail. They were close friends of Hanne Meketech.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he doesn't know what's going on in the world so McCauley starts telling him about sports
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
McCauley asking Derek if he wants to hear what's going on in the world. Talking hockey as Derek says he's a Maple Leafs fan
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tries to loosen #Saretzky up by talking about sport and the news. Fills him in on ISIS terrorism attacks.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley even filled #Saretzky on politics, boldly predicting eight months in advance that Trump was probably going to be US president.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley doing the majority of the talking right now. #Saretzky periodically mumbles a short reply
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells #Saretzky that his parents are doing better and adjusting to his arrest and charges
Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says Saretzky's family is doing better and want to stand behind him. Want him to stay healthy.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says #Saretzky parents and grandparents are doing well. "Believe their baby boy is still in there.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
"They haven't given up on you. They care." McCauley tells #Saretzky about his parents. He says "it's nice to know they still care about me."
Quinn Campbell‏Verified account @quinnLcampbell 2h2 hours ago
In the video McCauley and #Saretzky are sitting facing one another. Knees are inches apart in the small room at the Calgary Remand Centre
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky mostly sitting in silence, hands on his lap, head turned down. Speaks quietly when he answers McCauley.
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says families of the victims are also adjusting to a "very tough situation."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"Your family are victims of this whole thing too. They've partly lost you too," McCauley tells #Saretzky
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley: "We still care about you. We don’t want you to shrink down to nothing. We want you to get better." #Saretzky
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley adds that he doesn't believe in "lock them up and throw away the key" #Saretzky
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
Derek: "Come to terms with it, but I regret what I’ve done." #Saretzky
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"I did terrible things ...I didn’t think about it ...no reason to murder people," says #Saretzky
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"I think about their family," #Saretzky says of the victims
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
"You don't have to live your life feeling bad. I believe you truly regret it." McCauley tells #Saretzky
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells #Saretzky it's healthy to think about what he did to the victims. Still trying to get him to open up.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"It doesn't mean you have to give yourself a life sentence of beating yourself up," McCauley says of #Saretzky's guilt
Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says it's healthy for Saretzky to think about what he's done and realizes it's been a tough six months for him.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells #Saretzky he's likely to feel the same emotions of denial, sadness and anger that the victims will feel.
Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
"You're a good person who did a horrible thing," McCauley tells Saretzky.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"You have a heart, you have a soul. You're not a vicious, terrible killer," McCauley tells #Saretzky
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley: "There’s a difference between a terrible person & a person who did a terrible thing." #Saretzky
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley adds, "You're a good person who did a horrible thing." #Saretzky
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he was able to give some closure to #Saretzky victims' families b/c of the information he was given. Praises Saretzky for that
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"It's a really horribly thing that I did..it's unacceptable...I wish I hadn't have done it," says #Saretzky
Quinn Campbell‏Verified account @quinnLcampbell 2h2 hours ago
McCauley, "Do you want me to tell them (grandparents) you’re sorry you killed Hanne Meketech?" #Saretzky says, "Ya".
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky asked if he wants to apologize to his grandparents for killing Hanne. "Tell them I love them. I want the best for them."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"It was more spur of the moment. Somehow I thought it was ok," #Saretzky tells McCauley of Meketech murder
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"I didn’t really think about it, I just went ahead and did it," says #Saretzky of killing Meketech
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says his plan was just to go kill Meketech and leave.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
"I went and I kicked her door in and I hit her in the head with a bat and stabbed her. No real reason," #Saretzky says.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he stabbed Hanne Meketech in the neck with a knife twice. Says she was in her bedroom at the time.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says it was around midnight. Meketech was standing in her bedroom without a shirt or pants on.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says Meketech was standing by her closet when he hit her in the head with a baseball bat and stabbed her.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he used the white Prestige Cleaners' van to get to Meketech's home
Bill Graveland‏Verified account @BillGraveland 2h2 hours ago
"No real reason," said Saretzky who said he stabbed Meketech in the neck twice after hitting her with the bat 3 times on top of the head.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he hit Meketech in the head three times with a bat. He says she didn't say anything. He put the bat in his apartment after.
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Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he put the knife he used in the fire he set to burn little Hailey's body.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he didn't do anything with Meketech's blood like he did with the other two victims. "I didn't think about it."
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"Why did you pick her?" asks McCauley "I didn’t think anybody cared about her," says #Saretzky
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"I just got motivated and went and did it. Didn’t think about how it would affect anybody else or myself or my family," says #Saretzky
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
McCauley "was she the first person you ever killed. Was there anybody else besides those three?" #Saretzky hesitates then says "no."
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he knew her "a little bit" and says she never did anything bad to him
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
"Was it practice for the next (killing) a little bit?" McCauley asked. "Yeah, I guess so," #Saretzky says.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"So just you figured she was alone ... nobody cared about her so wouldn’t be a big deal?" McCauley asks."Yeah," #Saretzky responds
Quinn Campbell‏Verified account @quinnLcampbell 2h2 hours ago
McCauley, "Do you feel bad about it?" #saretzky says, "Ya, I do."
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"I'm proud of you, I really am," McCauley tells #Saretzky after getting confession
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley offers #Saretzky lunch again. Says they can continue talking over lunch. Saretzky just wants a Pepsi and some gum
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley again trying to make small talk. Says he's going to talk with #Saretzky grandparents.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley now trying to get out of the interview room he's in w/ #Saretzky but can't...calling to get someone to unlock
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
Also asks for gum & a pepsi for #Saretzky
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
"Keep to myself," #Saretzky tells McCauley of his time in custody
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley encourages #Saretzky to read and talk to people while in jail to keep him sharp.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky says he's allowed out into the remand centre yard, but has chosen not to go outside.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
Someone finally comes to unlock the door so McCauley can leave and get #Saretzky some gum and a Pepsi.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley steps out briefly. #Saretzky left with another officer.
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
McCauley says he eventually spoke to #Saretzky grandparents about visiting him, but no during his interview with him about Meketech murder.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
McCauley tells Crown partway through the interview he contacted investigators to check in with them #Saretzky
Nick Kuhl‏ @NKuhlHerald 2h2 hours ago
Nine minutes of unfilled air now being skipped ahead in video#Saretzky
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley returns with Pepsi and gum for #Saretzky
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky takes pop and gum from McCauley.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
McCauley asks why #Saretzky would use a bat for one murder and a crowbar for the other. Saretzky replies, "I didn't think about it."
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky doesn't remember Meketech's two dogs. who tracked her blood all over her home after her murder.
Meghan Grant‏Verified account @CBCMeg 2h2 hours ago
"I was on some kind of drug, I'm not sure," says #Saretzky of the night he killed Meketech
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
"I was on some sort of drug that night. I don't know what it was. I was drinking. I was messed up" says #Saretzky on night he killed Hanne.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
#Saretzky asks to go back to his cell and the conversation ends between him and McCauley.
Sam Borsato‏ @BorsatoSam 2h2 hours ago
McCauley shakes #Saretzky hand, hopes he will do well and says he'll be back to talk to him.
Video ends there.
Patrick Burles‏ @PatrickBurles 2h2 hours ago
Defence beginning cross examination of McCauley #Saretzky
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
Hold back was cause of death, blunt force trauma to the head and the stab wounds to the neck, says McCauley. #Saretzky
Kevin Martin‏Verified account @KMartinCourts 2h2 hours ago
Despite his promise, McCauley never went back to interview #Saretzky again.
Kaella Carr‏Verified account @CTVKaellaCarr 2h2 hours ago
Just two questions from the defence and the witness is done. Court resumes Monday with Medical examiner & Derek Saretzky's aunt. #Saretzky
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